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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-10 07:29 AM
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Faux And Fiends' Debate On Nukes Goes Nuclear
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Gretchen Carlson loses control of debate between Richard Grenell, who served as spokesman for the U.S.'s representative to the UN under the Bush administration, and Joseph Cirincione, a nuclear weapons policy and conflict resolution expert.
http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/201004070003

Joseph Cirincione joined Ploughshares Fund as president in March 2008. He is author of Bomb Scare: The History and Future of Nuclear Weapons and served previously as senior vice president for national security and international policy at the Center for American Progress and as director for nonproliferation at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace for eight years. He worked for nine years in the U.S. House of Representatives as a professional staff member of the Committee on Armed Services and the Committee on Government Operations, and served as staff director of the bipartisan Military Reform Caucus. He teaches at the Georgetown University Graduate School of Foreign Service and is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations.

His previous books include two editions of Deadly Arsenals: Nuclear, Biological and Chemical Threats, (2005 and 2002), and previous reports include Universal Compliance: A Strategy for Nuclear Security (co-author, March 2005) and WMD in Iraq (co-author, January 2004). He is the author of over 200 articles on defense issues, the producer of two DVDs on proliferation, the former publisher of the comprehensive proliferation website, Proliferation News, and is a frequent commentator in the media. In the past two years has delivered over 150 speeches around the world and appeared in the 2006 award-winning documentary, Why We Fight.

Cirincione is an expert advisor to the Congressional Commission on the Strategic Posture of the United States, chaired by former Secretary of Defense William J. Perry and former Secretary of Energy and Secretary of Defense James R. Schlesinger. He also serves as a member of the Advisory Committee to the Commission on the Prevention of WMD Proliferation and Terrorism, headed by former Senator Bob Graham (D-FL) and former Senator Jim Talent (R-MO).



Cirincione is an honors graduate of Boston College and holds a Masters of Science from the Georgetown School of Foreign Service.

More with embedded links: http://www.ploughshares.org/expert/103

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Richard Grenell was appointed by President George W. Bush to serve as Director of Communications and Public Diplomacy for the United States Permanent Representative to the United Nations in 2001. Grenell became the longest serving American Spokesman at the UN in history, having served John Negroponte, John Danforth, John Bolton and Zalmay Khalilzad throughout the entire 8 years of the Bush Administration. In 2004, Ambassador Danforth appointed Grenell as an official member of the United States Delegation to the Security Council with full voting rights.

More: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Grenell
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seattle_blue Donating Member (299 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-10 08:31 AM
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1. No Gretchen (my dog's name by the way)
when President Obama was talking about outliers, he was not referring to countries, rather he was talking about you and your network.
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Jim__ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-10 08:59 AM
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2. Grenell's "arguments' had nothing to do with the current agreement, - n/t
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-10 10:10 AM
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5. Movie analogies
Good grief. "People have seen enough movies to know the good guy doesn't put down his weapon first."

To which I say, "You can't kill a monster with a gun."
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Creationismsucks Donating Member (205 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-10 09:19 AM
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3. THAT'S IT:

I hereby swear never to watch even one more second of Fox "news" programming. Not for any reason, ever.


DONE.
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90-percent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-10 09:51 AM
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4. Joseph Cirincione
Joseph Cirincione was impressive in this. I like lefties that are aggressive.

Fox is pretty slanted, isn't it?

-90% jimmy
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vanbean Donating Member (957 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-10 11:05 AM
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6. "Here hold this you little fool." "Hold what? What is it?" "It's called your ass."
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vanbean Donating Member (957 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-10 11:07 AM
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7. I can't rec this enough.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-10 03:23 PM
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8. Three comments: Gretchen does a bad job of trying to steer the debate
with her questions. Some thing like this, "if we lay down our arms will Kim Jong Il follow suit?". Has nothing to do with this issue. We are not disarming and not asking Russia or North Korea to.

two: Mr. Grenell was upset because Pres Obama hasnt done more with the UN. The repubs dont like the UN and Bush continually avoided the UN.

C: Mr. Grenell didnt address the main question (that Gretchen didnt ask), will a reduction in the number of weapons reduce our security?

But overall, better than I expected form FAux News.
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-10 04:35 PM
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9. That was kind of funny at the end.
Poor Gretchen. :rofl:
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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-10 08:28 PM
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10. Gretchen Carlson is a bimbo
who doesn't even understand the subject she's interviewing her guests on. Her questions have nothing to do with the substance of what the nuclear posture review actually does.

I actually disagree with Obama on this, but what a vacuous segment. I can't believe people rely on Fox (or CNN for that matter) to understand what's going on in the world. That's scary.
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