Team B - Never Trust a Neocon

[reprehensor]

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"The Neoconservatives seized their moment. They allied themselves with two right-wingers in the new administration of Gerald Ford, one was Donald Rumsfeld, the new Secretary of Defense, the other was Dick Cheney..." This excerpt is from the documentary "The Power of Nightmares".

You can view & D/L the film from The Internet Archive:
http://www.archive.org/details/ThePowerOfNightmares

Rumsfeld, Cheney, Richard Pipes, the gang's all here.

They lied about the Red Menace, and they're lying about the Islamic Menace. That includes the 'danger' of Iran.

Beware of recidivism:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=yiiS9ykuDW4

[seemslikeadream]

1. America Will Never Recover from the Iraq Catastrophe

http://edstrong.blog-city.com/america_will_never_recover_from_the_iraq_catastrophe.htm

Looking backwards from 2050, historians may well conclude
that the Iraq fiasco was the terminal war of the Modern Era

- a nihilistic war that concluded

the near 500-year-long hegemony of the West

The signs of this reversal were actually rather ominous

even without a war-policy built upon a foundation of

fabrications and now the impending defeat

of the "new imperialism" in Iraq

It may well be remembered as the shame

(and the shaming) of a decadent West

of an arrogant and hypocritical era

in the twilight and senescence of its glory

Not Just 'Another' Vietnam - Even Worse Than Vietnam
Americans have probably not yet fully woken up to the appalling fact that, after a long period in which the first motto of their military was "no more Vietnams", they face another Vietnam.

There are many important differences, of course, but the basic result is similar.

The mightiest military in the world fails to achieve its strategic goals and is, in the end, politically defeated by an economically and technologically inferior adversary.

Abu Ghraib and Guantánamo have done terrible damage to America's reputation for being humane; this defeat will convince more people around the world that it is not even all that powerful.

And Bin Laden, still alive, will claim another victory over the death-fearing weaklings of the west.

In history, the most important consequences are often the unintended ones. We do not yet know the longer term unintended consequences of Iraq. Maybe there is a silver lining hidden somewhere in this cloud.

But so far as the human eye can see, the likely consequences of Iraq range from the bad to the catastrophic.

Looking back over a quarter-century of writing about international affairs, I can not recall a more comprehensive and avoidable man-made disaster.

America is just starting to wake up to
the awesome scale of its Iraq disaster




Don’t think of them as in coffins - think of it as pertinent micro-housing

[Az]

2. War and fighting for freedom are just the trappings of the NeoCons

Their real goal is moral authority based on the moral codes of their choosing. It is change of society and moral values they fear the most. And it is certainty of purpose they wish to impose. Their purpose. Their morality. Their way.

[applegrove]

3. Blah! I couldn't finish watching it.

:puke:

[IndyOp]

4. Kick (n/t)

[defendandprotect]

5. JFK undid the Cold War -- this was the effort to put Humpty Dumpty Back together again --

The thing about it is, however . . . . Rumsfeld/Cheney may be paranoid as hell and sociopaths . . .
but it looks damned well like they were working for the military industrial complex and that there must have been huge monetary payoffs for these guys who worked within government for them.

Same with "energy" Dick --

In other words, I don't believe there was an "ideology" --
I think this was what it is today -- a scam.

It also sounds like some of James Jesus Angleton's paranoia from within the CIA --
and yet I'm not sure if we really know if he was insane or working for some other cause, as well.

Not so long ago -- before the PNAC dream of a new Pearl Harbor floated into our lives --
Newt Gringrich was out there telling us that the "Chinese are coming, the Chinese are coming."

People everywhere want peace -- it is the few who want violence and murder to hide their stealing.

We need everyone to understand this.

[reprehensor]

9. Mrs. Cheney is pimping China as a threat whenever she can.

http://jamesfallows.theatlantic.com/archives/2007/07/gary_hart_lynne_cheney_and_war.php

Frickin' Harpy.

[creeksneakers2]

6. That's a fantastic movie

I thought I knew about all of Bush's lies until I watched that movie. I knew the terrorist threat was greatly exaggerated. I didn't know they made it up.

[Perry Logan]

7. I guess wingers honest-to-God believe they can project their own reality.

It's a white-guy thing.

[L0oniX]

8. The "evil" is them, not the other... USA ... The Great Satan !

Satan is the father of the lie and this government runs on lies. Tv is full of lies, deception, misdirection and out right fraud so it is a voice of Satan. Most other media also is of the same ilk. We are just so used to it that we don't think of it or notice it. It's as simple as the menu at your local feeding trough. Does anything thing you order from the menu actually look like the pictures on the menu? Does anything on tv ads actually perform or look as they did on the tv ad? Do any candidates for a top level government position ever actually succeed in doing what they say they will do if elected? We are surrounded by liars and lies in all shapes and forms. We even lie to ourselves when we think that all these national problems will work themselves out. Everything will be ok huh? Don't worry, be happy? <---- that should be our national song, moto and flag.

:argh:

[The M Double]

10. Kick

WATCH the entire "Power Of Nightmares"... Very well done!

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

11. Kick. Rumsfeld, what a chronic liar. nt.