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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 08:52 PM
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Amazing Speech by Iraq War Veteran
 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akm3nYN8aG8
 
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Posted on DU: December 22, 2009
By DU Member: proud2BlibKansan
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Poor and working people in this country are sent to kill poor and working people in another country so the rich can get richer. Our real enemy is not the ones living in a distant land whose names or policies we don't understand; The real enemy is a system that wages war when it's profitable, the CEOs who lay us off our jobs when it's profitable, the Insurance Companies who deny us Health care when it's profitable, the Banks who take away our homes when it's profitable. Our enemies are not several hundred thousands away. They are right here in front of us
- Mike Prysner



The chain reaction of
evil... wars producing
more wars... must be
broken, or we shall be
plunged into the dark
abyss of annihilation
- Martin Luther King, Jr.

If tyranny and oppression
come to this land, it will be
in the guise of fighting a
foreign enemy... The loss of
Liberty at home is to be
charged to the provisions
against danger, real or
imagined, from abroad..."
- James Madison
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EmeraldCityGrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 09:05 PM
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1. Wow!
I'm reminded of a young John Kerry although, he was never as passionate. What a wonderful young man. He makes me proud of our military.
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Mithreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 09:22 PM
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2. Our enemies are home grown.
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Mithreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 09:27 PM
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3. Enthusiastic K&R
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Hulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 09:30 PM
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4. John Kerry of 2009....
The first post must have felt the same vibes I felt as I listened to this man. Truth can cut deep. This country is a nation of war...for profit or for any reason. We like to try out our new weapons. We like to steal natural resources of the weaker nations. We like to flex our muscle around the world to keep the weak frightened.

Hell...it's ALL we manufacture anymore....weapons. We are the world #1 arms producer. Are we that f*cking stupid we don't even recognize who we are in the world anymore? We produce, sell and display our arms 24/7...ever since World War II. It's all we have. It's good this veteran expresses reality...but nobody is listening. We'd rather pay attention to Brittany Murphy's death. Like that makes any difference to the world we terrorize??
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Juan_de_la_Dem Donating Member (800 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 10:39 PM
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10. Unfotunately you are right
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kenichol Donating Member (198 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 09:32 PM
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5. OMG OMG I want everyone to see this
I'm posting it on my local newspaper forum. Will send it everywhere I can.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 09:38 PM
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6. It is awesome, isn't it?
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 09:44 PM
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7. God forgive us for this horror..... I can't imagine how these innocent people
who survive this hell will.
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swilton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 09:57 PM
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8. Awesome Speech!
:applause:
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 10:03 PM
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9. I was in the process of posting this when I had to leave earlier. A sobering
testament from someone who has realized why he was sent to war.

EVERYONE should see this video.
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mikita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 10:47 PM
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11. wow .... k&r * 1000000000
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grahamhgreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 11:13 PM
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12. Thank you!
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 11:20 PM
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13. THIS IS the first time in two weeks of terrifying news of decisions made by Obama that I have
Edited on Mon Dec-21-09 11:24 PM by peacetalksforall
felt good, that I have felt love.

This soldier spoke for me. I am blessed to have his voice speak for me.

The willingness to go to war by our leaders is tne number one issue of assessment and condemnaton for me.

And now there are war rumblings in South America, Central America.

Thank you, thank you for posting.

Thank this man. He is the intelligent one.



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Michigan-Arizona Donating Member (516 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 11:26 PM
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14. Mike Pryser impressed me in this almost hour long video
http://www.iraqfallout.com/Watch.html

I thought this video was very interesting, it included Mike Prysner & 2 other military men discussing their time in Iraq.
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 01:44 AM
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22. thanks for that link! nt
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 11:26 PM
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15. Exactly what I felt when I came home from Vietnam in '69, but I could never express it
as eloquently as Mike Prysner has.

This is a righteous indictment of all that is evil about militarism anywhere, BUT ESPECIALLY here in our country. It is not patriotism that drives these wars. Why can we not see that?

Thank you for posting, proud2BlibKansan.

Rec.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 11:29 PM
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16. I think this is from Winter Soldier in March of 08
I was there and I kept having to leave, it was so intense.
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 11:46 PM
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17. I understand. Just hearing his words made me very emotional. The images were heartbreaking.
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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 12:29 AM
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19. I was working Security on the main floor for the Winter Soldier hearnings.
It was a sobering experience.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 02:06 AM
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25. With Lobo?
He says he was working security so he missed a lot of the testimony. I told him I don't know how anyone sat through all of it.
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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 04:45 AM
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30. Don't recall a Lobo but I did meet a lot of VVAW & VFP vets working Security.
For some unknown reason I ended up working the main testimony room. I was usually circulating around the main room room and the hallways on either side.

Some of the guys worked outside (in the cold) Security near the front gate and around the campus.

In addition to meeting many of the IVAW vets I have been reading about, I also met Suzanne Swift and her mother. I also have pics of me with Dick Gregory and Amy Goodman. It was a most interesting 3 days.

Here's the IVAW link to all the testimony: http://ivaw.org/wintersoldier
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 07:49 AM
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33. Lobo is VVAW from Chicago
I remember walking around the corner one day and seeing Amy Goodman. What a nice surprise.
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12string Donating Member (443 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 11:53 PM
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18. War
I wish every American could see this.
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Andronex Donating Member (378 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 12:44 AM
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20. The enemy is not the people of these nations...
The enemy is our ruling class who makes war for profit unconcerned with the human tragedy they engender. Our loyalty should be with those who suffer, not with the politicians who justify wars.
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Detroit Progressive Donating Member (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 01:28 AM
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21. Brilliant
People need to wake the F up.
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 01:45 AM
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23. I watched the whole hearing when it happened!
thanks for posting.
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 01:48 AM
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24. This video is edited to make President Obama & SOS Clinton look like racists
Edited on Tue Dec-22-09 01:49 AM by Turborama
And that they are only trying to fix 8 years of Busch's disastrous foreign policy legacies for personal financial gain.

I agree with what this veteran is saying about the war in Iraq, but the creator of this video is using it as propaganda for their own http://www.youtube.com/user/ThePhaedrus83#g/u">Paultard agenda.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 02:07 AM
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26. Interesting technique
They are fixing it by making more war.

Oh. Kay. :crazy:
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 02:50 AM
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28. So, do you agree with the creator of this video or not?
Do you think they are doing it because they are racists and want to make some money? That's what I was pointing out.
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 06:05 AM
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32. wow. how in fuck did you get THAT from the video?
Edited on Tue Dec-22-09 06:06 AM by jonnyblitz
in vietnam soldiers called the vietnamese gooks and in iraq they called the iraqis hajji. this is what they do to dehumanize them so they don't feel so bad about killing them. that's what the kid meant by racism. when i was in the military they called people from the middleeast ragheads. it starts from the very top and works its way down the ranks. your interpretation is just waaay the fuck off. :crazy:
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 07:51 AM
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34. Don't know where you pulled that idea from
Maybe you should watch the video again.
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 06:02 AM
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31. I didn't get that impression at all. nt
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Moostache Donating Member (905 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 02:36 AM
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27. He will be attacked by all manner of zealots now...
That was one of the most powerful arguments for peace I have heard in ages. I applaud the courage that took for the speaker...especially in light of the sure to come trashing of his career and military record as a malcontent and dare I say it for them, coward. True bravery is not only found on the battlefield or in the fox hole or on patrols. True bravery is found in laying yourself bare before the world because your conscience will allow no less. True bravery is taking the most unpopular views and championing them in the face of hate and vitriol and slander.

It caused me to go back and re-read some of the words of Bobby Kennedy and shed a few tears for the loss that we endured when he was killed and the continuing ramifications of that loss for all of us some 41 years later. I lack the prose to do justice to the ideals that RFK championed; but instead will defer to his own words (and once more try to find the strength in myself to dig deeper and make a larger commitment to the cause in the new year ahead):

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We must admit the vanity of our false distinctions among men and learn to find our own advancement in the search for the advancement of others. We must admit in ourselves that our own children's future cannot be built on the misfortunes of others. We must recognize that this short life can neither be ennobled or enriched by hatred or revenge. Our lives on this planet are too short and the work to be done too great to let this spirit flourish any longer in our land. Of course we cannot vanquish it with a program, nor with a resolution.

But we can perhaps remember, if only for a time, that those who live with us are our brothers, that they share with us the same short moment of life; that they seek, as do we, nothing but the chance to live out their lives in purpose and in happiness, winning what satisfaction and fulfillment they can. Surely, this bond of common faith, this bond of common goal, can begin to teach us something. Surely, we can learn, at least, to look at those around us as fellow men, and surely we can begin to work a little harder to bind up the wounds among us and to become in our own hearts brothers and countrymen once again.


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http://www.rfkmemorial.org/lifevision/onthemindlessmenaceofviolence/
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 03:45 AM
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29. Thank you for posting this link!
K and R



Peace on Earth!
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 01:55 PM
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35. You are most welcome
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earcandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 08:46 PM
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36. Never have truer words been spoken (lately).. Make this man our next prez!
He knows what is up.  
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 08:55 PM
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37. Fantastic and courageous young man ....
Our nation has long been a terrorist nation --

Cruel and brutal power used to subdue other peoples - to steal their resources --

their land --

Every day most of us here wonder how to stop them --

Didn't we think that electing Democrats would end this nightmare?

What happened?

The '06 election was about sending Democats to Congress to STOP the war --

Speaker Nancy Pelosi announced, acknowledged and confirmed that the day after the '06 election!

Three years later we are still watching the wars being re-funded, while many here continue to

say that they TRUST and have HOPE still. Is it trust and hope or is it self-delusion?

We have a president who has also failed to end these wars - in fact, sending new troops to

Afghanistan. Does anyone really think that we're coming home from the oil rich Middle East?

I have to recognize how difficult it is for a soldier to speak out in this way ---

this is the most violent military we have ever raised -- violent, brutal, cruel.

Trained to make that so. And not only racist, but sexist.

Certainly patriarchy and capitalism/corporatism are suicidal --

Not just in regard to war, but in every pursuit --

They are eternally destructive -- but if we elected 100 Democratic Senators to Congress,

unfortunately, I think they would still support these wars.

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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 09:03 PM
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38. very powerful
:patriot:
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winyanstaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 12:16 PM
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39. this should be on the main stream news every single day until these wars end!
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 12:59 PM
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40. K&R. Inspiring. //nt
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ProLife_ProPeace Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 03:13 PM
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41. Enlightening
Enlightening. Thank you for posting.
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