Hartmann: Obama Campaigned as Progressive Really Conservadem Corpacrat Tragic Realization

[SLSmith]

Run time: 03:23 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEYWnnsOWDo   Posted on YouTube: December 17, 2009 By YouTube Member: Views on YouTube: 0   Posted on DU: December 17, 2009 By DU Member: SLSmith Views on DU: 943

 
December 17, 2009
The vid title says it all...

[Recursion]

1. Umm.. in what sense did he campaign as a progressive?

I've always wondered what people are talking about when they say stuff like that.

[ThatPoetGuy]

2. Yep.

Throughout the primaries, people here insisted Obama was as progressive as they come, but from everything he was saying, he was clearly further to the right than any of the other candidates we had.

[laconicsax]

3. In the sense that a lot of people imagined it.

[EFerrari]

6. You are generally listening to optimists who try to think the best of people

afaict.

[Mithreal]

9. He called himself a pragmatic progressive, let it go

And just like Bush embedded language that was a nod to the bible thumpers many took Obama's embedded language as the nod that he was one of us.

I looked for a video of a campaign speech where he uses that phrase but only found the video where he introduces Kaine and refers to their shared "pragmatic" progressive philosophy.

[ProgressOnTheMove]

4. I'm glad he said that as he supported Hillary who offered the same health plan ..

and some still feel it was a single payer plan who didn't follow things too closely. It's why I supported Dennis before both of them because only he had the real solution single payer.

[democracy1st]

5. K & R

[raystorm7]

7. Its called Flip-Flop... Dont Campaign under Progressive ideas if you aren't going to support them.

[Vermontgrown]

8. Bill Clinton

flat out lied. Like all political assholes, liars, thieves ans warmongers.