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ProfessorPlum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 01:20 PM
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TYT: Obama & Dems Shredding Constitution Just Like Bush
 
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 01:23 PM
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1. I see you removed the question mark from the title.
Edited on Mon Dec-07-09 01:25 PM by ihavenobias
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ProfessorPlum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 02:12 PM
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6. hey Tom,
I heard your quote in the other video posted today, and it was spot on.
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 01:40 PM
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2. They certainly are.
By now we know that most of the Dems in Congress are DINOs and that either Obama is acting under duress or else he's on the other side.

We've been completely had.

I don't know if it's possible to get our country back at this point.

Fuck any idiot who comes to this thread and defends the actions of the current traitors just because they are Democratic traitors.
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 01:47 PM
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3. I'm sure someone is looking for a summary.
Edited on Mon Dec-07-09 01:48 PM by ihavenobias
I'm too busy to write one other than to say that the video is regarding the Patriot Act Renewal which has some horrible provisions, including the National Security Letters which are especially egregious. Oh, and don't worry about anyone trying to defend the letters, they'll just continue unrecing the video instead, probably after only reading the title.
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Butch350 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 05:23 PM
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17. The idiots are YOU and ME...

for letting this country get stolen from us, the american people. The politicians are now just puppets of the UBER WEALTHY, bankers, brokers, the market, main stream media, all part of the corporate machine that got US ALL by the collective balls and ball (ets).

Suck it up, and be good little boys and girls. Do what your told. Continue to be lead by the corporate world, buy their gadgets
and toys, watch your MTV, your CSI's, your reality tv shows, and stop bitching about what politicians are do to the constitution.

The only way we'll be free is that the current system has a major total meltdown. Or the world ends as we know it. Until then you
won't be in control of shit. (not even your own lives)!

(don't mind me - i just babble a lot)

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tbyg52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 07:01 PM
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19. Babble away - you're spot on. nt
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theFrankFactor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 02:02 PM
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4. I Hope Liberals Unite to Overthrow the Unitary Corporate Cabal That is So Obvious Now!
The "Dems" trade you one shitty ass insurance industry blow job of a "health" care bill in return for letting them play footsie with Republicans and pretend they give a FLYING FUCK ABOUT YOU!

Please... does no one remember what they did during the Bush years? NOT A GOOD GOD DAMN THING THAT'S WHAT!

And how does this REPUBLICAN MINORITY compare to that Dem minority? These Republican fuckers call ALL THE SHOTS and the Democrat power brokers KNOW IT because that's HOW THEY WANT IT! Harry and Nancy's little puppet show is supposed to lull the Stepford Democrats... and so far it has.
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 12:08 PM
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40. righteous rant ++1 (nt)
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slay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 01:19 PM
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42. Damn straight!
All we have right now are two arms of THE Corporate Party. Sucks cause I was really hoping for - dare i say it - change, with Obama, but it is clear now that's not happening. You are so right about the Republican domination, which the Dems allow them to do. Argh - these are the people our corporations bought with their "campaign donations wink wink nod nod" - and put in charge. :mad:
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DontTreadOnMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 02:06 PM
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5. National Security Letters you can believe in!
Go Obama! Shred that Constitution!
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Metta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 02:25 PM
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7. All of this is on Obama's and the Dems watch now. Happy karma.
:toast:
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gorfle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 02:26 PM
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8. "Those are the facts. And those facts suck."
Right on, man, right on.

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20score Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 02:43 PM
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9. It was bullshit when congress voted for the PATRIOT ACT after 9-11 and later
claimed it was "The climate of fear" that made them over-react. Kiss my ass, congress. Any one that over-reacts with absolutely no regard for history is far too much of a coward and a moron to ever hold office. Now even that pathetic excuse is moot. Those assholes truly are enemies of the Constitution - and by extension, us.
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ProfessorPlum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 08:07 PM
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21. Your point is an excellent one
We pay those idiots not to make those kinds of foolish, impulsive decisions, driven by fear. That's what we pay them for! Being "afraid" is not an excuse, you mewling, bleating fools!

And furthermore, it's clearly just an excuse to do what the powers-that-be want, anyway. 9-11 happens, everyone pretends to be scared, and the kleptocracy steals our rights. When called on it, everyone shrugs and says 'we were scared'. And nothing changes.

Flash forward to 2008: the "crash" or near crash happens, everyone pretends to be scared, and the kleptocracy steals all of our money. When called on it, everyone shrugs and says 'we were scared'. And nothing changes.

This is called "The Shock Doctrine". Cenk interviewed a congressman a day or two ago who was putting this same sad excuse through himself about the massive ripoff. OK, you bedwetting coward, you were scared and it was a mistake. How about fixing it, or was it just an excuse to do what your overlords wanted while the peasants were fooled?
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orbitalman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 08:57 AM
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38. You're anology to the "Shock Doctrine" is SPOT-ON...
This needs to be required reading for everyone; altho it is not the easiest reading. I would not use it as bedtime reading, but it does go into the 'doctrines' history primarily starting in South America by people educated in America-where it started. Naomi Klein is the author.
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man4allcats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 09:42 AM
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39. "Any one that over-reacts with absolutely no regard for history is
far too much of a coward and a moron to ever hold office."

Thank-you! My sentiments exactly!
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 02:50 PM
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10. K&R I agree! THOSE FACTS SUCK
:banghead:
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winyanstaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 03:43 PM
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11. We only have one party anyways.....about time America woke up to that fact.
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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 03:51 PM
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12. K & R
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 03:52 PM
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13. kick (nt)
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 04:19 PM
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14. Thanks for always telling us the truth Cenk.
No matter how bitter it is.

:thumbsup:
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ej510 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 04:36 PM
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16. We have a one party system, and it's called the corporate party.
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 12:27 AM
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23. The Obama presidency is proving that beyond my wildest imagination.
It has been a difficult realization for me.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 04:34 AM
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28. It's the good cop - bad cop party.
"Oh, just look what those crazy Democrats are doing now. Don't worry we will save you from that Muslim terrorist Communist Barack Obama."

"Oh, just look what those crazy Republicans are doing now. Don't worry we will save you from that ignorant Sarah Palin."
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 04:34 PM
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15. Link to this video whenever the Glee Club accuses you of wanting a pony.
:banghead:
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 04:35 AM
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29. Ahem. We don't get a pony?
Are you kidding me!?
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olegramps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 05:45 AM
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31. I wanted a pony and I got a lot of horse shit instead.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 05:38 PM
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18. K & R !!!
:kick:
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Kajsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 07:29 PM
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20. One of my students in Home Teaching
is reading '1984' for her Comp. Lit class.

I pointed out the many similarities to what is going on
today, with the extreme example in the book.

Here is yet another example.

We are not there yet- let's make sure we never reach that point!

K & R
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 10:39 PM
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22. k*r - excellent - how about getting our consitution back!
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 12:51 AM
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24. like W, maybe not as fast, but yes, just like W. And why anyone refuses to acknowledge the continued
Edited on Tue Dec-08-09 12:53 AM by Divine Discontent
plethora of revelations that they are -

siding with the corporations on far too much

siding with the military's desires on far too much

siding with those who wish to keep the 'little guys' down by ignoring our rights far too much (see first two references of who "those" really is)

is really beyond my understanding. Because how can you not see the actions and shake your head unless you're just in love with the "idea" of what our president stands for to many, and the various reasons.

Well,

I hope this is a great game of super-33rd-dimensional chess and it's all gonna get a lot better soon when O announces that he's been behaving like W so he could root out all the anti-civilian influences in the govt! LOL... I know.
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UrbScotty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 01:06 AM
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25. The high number of rec's to this thread reminds me that
Edited on Tue Dec-08-09 01:07 AM by UrbScotty
Ignorance on the internet isn't limited to the Freepers. We're seeing some DUers display that same ignorance here.

I mean, it is pathetic how many people here just ignore logic in order to bash Obama.
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Mithreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 04:01 AM
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26. You made me watch it a second time and
Edited on Tue Dec-08-09 04:19 AM by Mithreal
I have no idea what you are talking about. I think you misspoke.

Are the facts incorrect?

Please identify the faulty logic?

Obama Sides with Republicans; PATRIOT Act Renewal Bill Passes Senate Judiciary Committee Minus Critical Civil Liberties Reforms
http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2009/10/obama-sides-republ...

Instead of adding more protections to the bill, as EFF and the Times have been urging (along with many other Americans who have been organizing Facebook and Twitter activism around PATRIOT reform), the Committee this morning voted to accept seven Republican amendments to the USA PATRIOT Act Sunset Extension Act to remove the few civil liberties protections left in the bill after it was already watered down at last Thursday's Committee meeting. Surprisingly and disappointingly, most of those amendments were recommended to their Republican sponsors by the Obama Administration.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 04:38 AM
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30. That's our goal, to bash Obama.
You're on to us! Shit, I thought we had you fooled.
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olegramps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 05:52 AM
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32. It appears that your support is sole based on your anti-abortion stance.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 07:16 AM
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 12:11 PM
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41. good grief. I guess lockstep, unquestioning loyalty is not limited to repukes
what is the "logic" of destroying the Constitution, pray tell?
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 04:29 AM
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27. With this "Patriot Act" in
place the country is not the country our founding fathers envisioned.

If the tea party folks would protest this one I would join them. But the idiots can't even name the freedoms that Obama is taking away. Dumb fucks. "Oh, he's taking away our freedoms!" Is it any wonder we can't get this country on the right track?

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FlyByNight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 06:03 AM
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33. The 4th Amendment is NOT a suggestion
The "'War' on (untaxed) Drugs" and the "War on (non-Saudi backed) Terror" have helped to destroy any sense of republicanism (SMALL R) we once had. Corporate influence has relegated Congress to middle-management as they're now unwilling to check presidential authority whether that president has an R or D after their name.

I love change.

:puke:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 07:12 AM
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 07:51 AM
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36. knr nt
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orbitalman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 08:34 AM
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37. Professor Plum, don't try to baffle me with you're downloading prowess...
There's no written synopsis with the video. Too bad.
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