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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 12:14 PM
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Teaching children that dinosaurs were on earth with man.
 
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This is a video excerpt of Ken Ham and his AIG associates indoctrinating young children. It is from Alexandra Pelosi's Road Trip with God.

Watch while you can, it keeps getting deleted by You Tube when it gets attention.

I just posted a thread saying that Bill Foster, candidate for mayor of St. Petersburg, Florida, is a Creationist. He believes that dinosaurs walked the earth with men.

He appears to be a young earth Creationist...thinking the world is about 6 thousand years old.

Yet according to the plans in place by our new Secretary of Education...mayors of large cities should be in charge of schools instead of school boards.

St. Pete is the 4th largest city in Florida. That would be interesting if Foster were to win.

Dinosaurs are mentioned in Job, so I dont have any problem believing that dinosaurs roamed the earth, says St. Petersburg mayoral candidate Bill Foster. He says he believes dinosaurs and humans lived at the same time, though most scientists say there is a gap of at least 60 million years between dinosaurs and mankind."

..."St. Petersburg mayoral candidate Bill Foster believes, contrary to the overwhelming majority of scientists, that dinosaurs and humans co-existed. He believes the world was created in six literal days, and he once complained to school officials when his son was taught about Darwin's theory of evolution in fifth grade.

Is that relevant to the campaign for mayor of Florida's fourth-largest city?

"This city is trying to increase its employment base with respect to scientific organizations and trying to recruit scientific concerns to come here,'' said St. Petersburg architect Michael Dailey, who supports Kathleen Ford, Foster's opponent. "If our mayor has a belief system that basically rejects science, how can people take him seriously?"


He also linked Darwinism to Hitler and Columbine.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 12:16 PM
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1. does he believe in Atlantis?
:evilgrin:
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 12:53 PM
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4. Obviously not, because Plato said that Atlantis existed ten thousand
years ago, and the earth is only 6 thousand years old.

And besides, Atlantis is not mentioned in the bible.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 01:55 PM
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8. I was just being naughty
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 03:00 PM
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9. And I was just playing dumb
:evilgrin:
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 12:27 PM
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2. But dinosaurs DID walk the earth with men ...
don't you watch cartoons?

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rexcat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-20-09 01:50 PM
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31. These people are dragging this country down, both...
Edited on Sun Sep-20-09 01:54 PM by rexcat
intellectually, educationally and socially. These people are willfully ignorant, which makes them stupid and unable to reason. When superstition becomes the norm we will be nothing but a third rate country with nuclear weapons, much like North Korea and soon Iran.

on edit: this response should have been directed at the original post.
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 12:47 PM
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3. Those children grow up (some of them)
and march on Washington complaining of "Lyin Africans" in the White House.

Sad.
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Riley18 Donating Member (883 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 01:02 PM
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5. Indoctrination of young children into any false belief system is too sad to watch.
How many of those kids will grow up as ignorant as their parents? It really helps explain the stupidity of the teabaggers.
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Old Time Pagan Donating Member (157 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 05:03 PM
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10. As the Jesuits have long maintained
give a child into their hands before that child has reached 7 years of age and they will give you a catholic for life.

The brain of a child has no firewall.
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jjewell Donating Member (78 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 01:24 PM
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6. These are people...
Who are convinced that "The Flintstones" is a documentary...
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mikelgb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 01:25 PM
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7. Than video was shown to me when I was young
Edited on Thu Sep-17-09 01:25 PM by mikelgb
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NecklyTyler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 05:22 PM
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11. The older, hard core, right wing, religious fundamentalists can be down right exasperating at times
There are religious fundamentalists that insist the Bible demands separation of the races and in the same breath will tell you that America is a white country
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NecklyTyler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 05:23 PM
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12. And Kick (too late to recommend)
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Mithreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 06:13 PM
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15. Another kick.
I went to private school K through 9, Flintstones wasn't considered a documentary but I was taught god was "mischievous" and let the devil put dinosaur bones in the ground to test our faith. Actually I can't remember if it was the god or devil they said. Does it really matter? Nah.

One thing I never understood with all the eager creation "scientists" out there is that if they could prove god existed, there would be no faith anymore. It would just be fact. So, it seems to me they are trying to destroy faith. Seems ironic.

When I was really little I can remember thinking the smallest parts of matter if you could see them would have "Made by God" stamped on them. Funny what little kids will believe.

I feel sorry for these whackos. They are rooting lies in the minds of children and when they are older and these children find out they were taught lies, how easy it is for everything they taught to unravel. I suppose they really don't care about the intellectually curious children anyway, they will probably lose those ones no matter what.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 05:27 PM
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13. wow, even Jack Van Impe knows the world is very old (however old it really is)
and said that the 6,000 years thing for those who are educated in it's origination of where the theory came from, was the "modern age" of man or something of that kind, and he went on for several minutes about how great science is. The earth is clearly an old place! I mean, shit,

Babs is like 20000 years old!
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-20-09 01:32 PM
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30. "Babs is like 20000 years old!"
:rofl:

That's the funniest thing I've read all day!
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Zambero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 06:13 PM
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14. Dinosaurs were around during the Roman Empire
How else could they have picked up those cool Latin names?

:crazy:
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ScottLand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 06:16 PM
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16. Most school systems only teach one side of the argument
as opposed to their church that gives you both sides and encourages you to make up your own mind?

I think I've had enough Christianity to last me a lifetime.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 06:43 PM
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17. Here's the odd thing

they don't have a clue what is Genesis.


It actually has two discreet creation stories that have been edited together.


Now here is the really scary thing: Biblical Research has estabished the sentence above as fact 150 years ago and it has remained unchallenged by peer review - even by conservative biblical scholars (except for the lunatic fringe). Despite being well understood seminary trained pastors have been too chicken to teach what they know for decades.
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twitomy Donating Member (756 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 07:04 PM
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19. What I find odd is the fact that Creationists
think that Darwinism is incompatible with Genesis becasue they take the Bible "literally", hence their disapproval of Darwinsim. Yet they refuse to take John 6:5355 literally...hmmmm

So to believe them, getting Gensesis "right" is more important than John 6:53-55. Yet at the end of the day, One would think striving to get John 6:53-55 "right" would be a heck of a lot more important to salvation than Genesis

Heck even the Catholic Church has stated that Darwinism is not incompatible with Church teaching.
They state what the Christian is to get out of Genesis is that god created everything. Evolution
could merely be the way it was done...
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evenso Donating Member (113 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 07:01 PM
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18. Religious indoctrination is child abuse
done by ignorant resentful adults that don't understand/feel left behind by the modern world. They hate knowledge and live in a small faux universe where a flat earth is the center of the solar system. This is just their way of saying "screw modern progressive civilization, you're smarter than us".
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 07:52 PM
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20. Those whose minds are incapable of grasping complex thought turn everything into simple
easily explainable declarations of fact. Whether they are factual or not.

Analysis, introspection, learning, and exposure to new ideas are anathema.

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AusDem Donating Member (219 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 10:53 PM
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21. that ken ham guy sounds aussie
him and rupert murdoch......jeez, i thought we're a more enlightened bunch than that. maybe all the crazies leave here.

never heard of him while I was living in the states.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 11:21 PM
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22. Yes he is from Australia.
He heads the group called Answers in Genesis.

http://www.answersingenesis.org /

Take time to explore the site...you will be "amazed".
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Lucy Goosey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 11:32 PM
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23. And these people think that a "stay in school" message from Obama is indoctrination?!
'Cause that's fucked up.
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alp227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-20-09 12:07 AM
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29. Yeah they ARE nuts
1. It's "indoctrination" for a Democratic president (Obama) to encourage kids to stay in school--to the point of being like Communist. Yet there's nothing wrong with Republican presidents (Reagan, Bush 41) to do the same damn thing.
2. They want public schools to impose Christian values and religion on the students, yet they're quick to smear public school religious neutrality (that follows the 1st Amendment) as "anti-Christian" and all that nonsense.
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scentopine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 11:40 PM
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24. Hamosaur's brain is size of walnut. -nt
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azygous Donating Member (110 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-19-09 08:03 AM
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25. Job 40:15 describes mythical dragons
Not dinosaurs. These people don't read, or they have no comprehension. They all prefer to be told what something says in the Bible instead of reading it themselves.

This part in Job where it talks about "Behemoth" indeed describes a fantastic creature, but as it goes on, the creature has scales on its back and breathes fire. It sure is interesting how these preachers all select just the parts that suit them, and they leave out the parts that don't neatly fit their narrative.
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MrObama Donating Member (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-19-09 10:03 AM
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26. Jesus probably rode dinosaurs
Edited on Sat Sep-19-09 10:05 AM by MrObama
Here's the proof:



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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-19-09 11:04 AM
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27. Great pictures.
Thanks for sharing.

Catch this picture from one of Ken Ham's books for children. Friendly dinosaurs, happy doggies and people.

Why is it so important to them to prove a young earth that had dinosaurs with humans? Why is that so vital to the religious right? I can't figure that.

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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-19-09 12:39 PM
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28. At least for now they are waging a losing battle. Fewer and fewer people buy this stuff.
Edited on Sat Sep-19-09 12:40 PM by Quixote1818
Though stunningly half the country does buy this crap.
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-20-09 01:56 PM
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32. My favorite was the image of a brontosaurus pulling a cart.
:rofl: Dinosaurs were farm animals! :rofl:
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cachukis Donating Member (232 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-20-09 05:31 PM
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33. I am afraid.
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