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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 07:49 AM
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Glenn Beck hyperventilates over fake Acorn video.
 
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James OKeefe and Fox News Promote Fake ACORN Murder Confession
by Tommy Christopher | 7:17 am, September 16th, 2009 1 comment

In perhaps the biggest bombshell of James OKeefes ongoing ACORN expose to date, Glenn Beck aired a tape of an ACORN worker confessing to OKeefes hidden camera that she had shot and killed her husband. The tape is followed by Beck imploring his viewers to get up off of their couches, call their local newspapers, and demand that they run this story.

Be careful what you wish for, Glenn.

See, whether they got a phone call or not, Duane Gang and John Asbury of the Press-Enterprise did just that, except they did something that OKeefe, Fox News, and Beck did not do. They got the facts. Heres my very favorite part of their story:

Police said they have been in contact with (the woman in the tape) Kaelkes former husbands and the homicide claims do not appear accurate.

Unless they contacted one or both of them by seance, that appears to be an understatement. Kaelke told the reporters that she made the story up, saying They were clearly playing with meI decided to shock them as much as they were shocking me.

An ACORN representative said that OKeefes tapes were selectively edited, a claim echoed by OKeefes other subjects.

This is exactly what I tried to explain on the Ed Morrissey Show yesterday, that the type of journalism that OKeefe is engaging in lacks any checks or balances on his desire to reach a pre-ordained conclusion. Luckily, the charade was short-lived, in this case.

Here is the video as it was broadcast on Glenn Beck (the admission starts around the :56 mark):

http://www.mediaite.com/online/james-okeefe-and-fox-new...
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 07:52 AM
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1. Fox gets all of its "News" from YouTube, Twitter and Facebook.
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kelli Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 07:57 AM
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3. Wow
How long has this guy been on the air? He looks a little unhinged.

Just wow. I am speechless. The Rep.s are following THIS guy around like the pied piper?

I must be living under a rock, I never heard of him until about a month ago.
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dbmk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 08:16 AM
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4. He positioned himself to be appointed to the empty chair
Edited on Wed Sep-16-09 08:17 AM by dbmk
of Head of the Town Crazies.

He is organising nutcases of all kinds of different stripes. They are all angry about something they cannot articulate (black guy in the White House being one).

They are the same as the people supporting all of the ultra rightwing xenophobic goverment tax hating parties that have emerged in Europe. Their yearly conventions here in Denmark were always great entertainment until the more sinister speculative section of the leaders decided create a new party to weed the obvious crazies out from their ranks to clean up their public image(knowing full well that they would get their votes anyway).

Difference is that your two party system prevents them from organising under such a flag and still count in the voting process - so the Republican party has to cater to them to get them out to vote for them.

And it seems that the Republican party is slowly being whittled down to just them.

The percentages are strikingly similar, btw. Approx 15-20% are by nature just that dumb.
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svpadgham Donating Member (374 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 10:36 AM
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30. I envy you.
n/t
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 07:55 AM
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2. Here is the key statement.
They were clearly playing with meI decided to shock them as much as they were shocking me.

I suspect that this is what was going on with at least some, and possibly all, of the other tapes.
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kag Donating Member (548 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 08:17 AM
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5. It's called entrapment...
And it's illegal. That's why "Real" journalists don't do it.

I got pretty pissed watching The Daily Show last night. Stuart treated this as if it was a real story. He went all nuts over why "real" journalists didn't break the story. Well, it's because "real" journalists, at least some of them, know the law.

I wish this whole damn thing would go away, but I know with Becky on it it'll hang around for months. I'm pretty satisfied that, while there might be a few idiots in ACORN offices around the country, there are many more of them working at FN. I think it stands for "Fucking Nimrods".
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BonnieJW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 08:36 AM
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9. OK, I plead ignorance here.
I saw the tapes, but I haven't heard anyone rebut them. What's the story??? Are the tapes fake?
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Celebration Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 08:50 AM
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10. they are selectively edited
The raw tape hasn't been released.

So, apparently this one Acorn worker knew their whole schtick was a charade, and made outrageous claims herself. Her "confession" that she killed her husband outraged Beck.

Of course, all her exes are alive and well, LOL. But Beck was unhinged and believed it. LOL.

I happen to think this is funny, even though some claim to not see the humor in it.
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ScottLand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 10:47 AM
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33. I'm sure they know something's up
when a stranger comes in and says, "Hey, can you help me do something illegal?"
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AlbertCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 10:47 AM
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34. Even if she HAD killed all her husbands, and their mothers...
Edited on Wed Sep-16-09 10:48 AM by AlbertCat
...What has that to do with ACORN?








And wouldn't she be against Death Panels....she wants to do it herself!
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 09:14 AM
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21. No one knows for sure yet just what the story is.
They aren't fake in the sense that everyone involved was an actor. The ACORN employees were real. The question is how sincere they were in their responses.

At least one of them HAS been rebutted. The one that is the subject of this thread.
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Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 09:13 AM
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19. Please read up on entrapment you look silly.
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DarthPortnoy Donating Member (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 08:56 AM
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11. Exactly!
When the truth comes out (and it will) Glenn Beck and the Republicans will all have eggs on their face. I'm beginning to think O'keefe, Giles and BigGovernment were just punked by ACORN. They had to know this was going on and Fox News is playing into their trap. Why else has the other networks taken a step back from reporting this? Probably becasue they know this is all fake and are not buying into the tea party racist rhetoric that is steaming from this "fake scandal".

LOL Its going to be a good week once this finally comes out!
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mariawr Donating Member (171 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 08:59 AM
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13. We'll see about that. Has Lou Dobbs jumped yet?
We just know how much he respect this administration.
I'd like to see him go down with this mess as well.
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dotymed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 08:20 AM
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6. ROFLMAO
Glenn Beck, "have you no shame?" A journalist who
doesn't confirm a "story"? Especially one that he
uses to "prove" his rantings about a community
organizing agency that helps the underprivileged being a den
of inequity...lol Glenn Beck you're such a dumb ass. Me
thinks you're handlers will be pissed...
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 08:25 AM
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7. Maybe Kaelke should sue for defamation and ask for release of the entire unedited tape.
Perhaps a good lawyer could leverage this into the release of all the unedited tapes.
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sandyj999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 08:25 AM
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8. I know he can be dangerous but he just cracks me up with his "acting"
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 09:02 AM
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14. The sobbing is the best.
He gets that Tammy Wynette catch in his voice and then bursts into tears.

This guy has got to be the craziest yet of the republican "leaders" that have recently emerged. What a strange man to worship as an inerrant god.

:shrug:
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chat_noir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 09:17 AM
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22. crazy...
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mariawr Donating Member (171 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 08:57 AM
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12. WE all know Faux noise lies....
..and I'm taking bets here-
Perhaps the same thing occurred in the other videos? It is reported they were 'heavily edited'
(I've not studied them)--but the whole thing sounds exactly like their made for Faux Viewers conspiracy plots. It's just too damn
stupid (a pros and a pimp--PLEASE) plays right into stereotypes and baser instincts.

This is a vile attempt to silence an organization connected to the president, to portray it as vile, when it really does do good things and services for its community (which is more than I can say for our sitting congresscritters).
FOx did that with Rev. Wright...or have you forgotten that one?
The Rev is a good man, done much for his congregation and community.
But the way that man's name was reviled, he was made out to be such an ANGRY BLACK MAN. And he in no way deserved it.
I listened to his sermons. They had a clear message of dealing with bad things and turning them around for good.
The Rev threw himself under the bus because of Obama. Rev's doing OK, but now, what do you think of when you hear his name?
Same thing for Acorn. Acorn helps the poor to vote. Do you get it?


Wake up, people. You should know this story by now.
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Fishin4u Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 09:04 AM
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16. check date
the latest video was dated 2005...... clearly seen and how does this fit with President Obama?
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V_Byl Donating Member (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 09:09 AM
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18. I'll probably take heat for asking this...
Love the board, and this whole thing with the tapes is troubling - even though it in no way ties to Obama, period. However, you have to wonder why acorn fired the involved employees? Someone needs to dissect these videos and show they are fake - please.
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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 10:40 AM
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31. Well first off...
this ladies ex husband is alive and well. She was intentionally yanking their chain.

http://www.politicsdaily.com/2009/09/16/police-acorn-em...
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AlbertCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 10:55 AM
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35. This is a vile attempt to silence an organization connected to the president
ACORN is connected to the Prez? In what significant way? Only because the RW connected them. What power does ACORN wield exactly?

Oh GOD! IT'S ACORN!!!!

Acornophobia!



What a joke.
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 09:03 AM
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15. These dumb right-wingnut fundies believe anything Beck says.
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Alice in Wonderland Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 09:07 AM
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17. Don't discount Glen Beck
You seem to think that Beck's audience cares about the truth. Or that our senate cares about the truth. Perception is 90% of the game. To date, ACORN has been shown in a very bad light and is losing the PR war. Even I am appalled at supporting the prostitution of 13 year olds. The only appropriate response to that by ACORN staffers should have "WTF, are you out of your mind!! I'm calling the police!!!!!!". Had they done so, we wouldn't have this PR nightmare.

You do know that as a result of these videos, widely promoted by Glen Beck, that the senate voted by an overwhelming majority to defund ACORN. This is no laughing matter. Let's get serious. I have posted this elsewhere and I'm reposting it again here because it's important, DO NOT DISCOUNT GLEN BECK!

No matter how many of us hate Beck, it would be a mistake to discount him. It is his influence that is causing major trouble for ACORN and thus for president Obama. He is getting more and more exposure and there will undoubtedly be attempts to link president Obama with ACORN and thus portray the idea that president Obama supports child prostitution and a corrupt organization. With the recent overwhelming senate vote against ACORN and the Census Bureau's decision to fire ACORN, Beck has already scored a victory. By the way, regardless of how scummy and possibly illegal it was for those two people to pose as a pimp and prostitute, I do not agree at all with ACORN staff supporting use of 13 year old girls in a prostitution ring. Very few Americans are going to support that nonsense. We shouldn't either. If you do, you certainly don't have my support. That's not what we're about and we never should be. It is also ironic that ACORN supports certain illegal actions such as breaking into houses in the name of justice. Few would object to that sort of illegality when it corrects and injustice. But prostituting 13 year olds goes way over the line, is terribly illegal and is disgusting and immoral on anyone's scale of justice. 13 year olds should be educated and sheltered from harm such as this.

Getting back to Beck. According to the few reports I have seen, his influence caused thousands of Americans to descend on Washington this past weekend. Beck claims 1.7 million. They shouldn't be discounted either. I listen to Beck and Rush Limburger, etc. so that I know what's going on. I do admit that they are funny sometimes, but that's not why I watch. If you do not know your enemy and respect his strengths, you will lose. Every good coach, every good general studies the enemy and learns his strength and weaknesses. Do you remember the movie Patton where after winning a battle Patton yells "Rommel, I read your book!" That was knowing your enemy and using the knowledge to defeat him. Simply crying that Beck is a wacko is useless and very unintelligent. Read his books like Patton read Rommel's. Watch his show. Learn his strengths and weaknesses (for one he is a cry baby, too emotional). And then intelligently use this knowledge.
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 09:22 AM
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23. Appropriate response by ACORN employees.
The only appropriate response to that by ACORN staffers should have "WTF, are you out of your mind!! I'm calling the police!!!!!!".

You weren't there and you haven't seen the entire tapes, so you can't really say what the appropriate response was. It was obvious to at least one person that they were lousy actors and that the whole thing was a big joke, and her response was to play along with them and try to top them. Maybe others reacted in a similar way.
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Vilis Veritas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 09:29 AM
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25. I personally think Beck is dangerous to society.
Edited on Wed Sep-16-09 09:30 AM by Vilis Veritas
I believe he is a threat to society for the simple fact that I believe Beck is inciting people to violence with his antics.

That is my opinion and I hope and pray that I am proved wrong.
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 12:31 PM
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39. Just to get a couple of things straight
13 is a number BecKKK made up. The ages that were mentioned in the 1st video was 15 and the nuber of girls was 13. BecKKK turned it into 13 even though his very own subtitles say they were talking about 13 girls, not 13 year old girls. Still under age and still minors but if he can't even get his own propaganda right on such a simple thing, the whole story must be riddled with holes. For example, the "prostitute" says they are just going to lay low for a year while they get on their feet. If they said the girls were 15 and they were going to "lay low" for a year, that means they would have been 16 when they weren't "laying low", whatever that means. When watching the 1st video it's clear there were cuts and the whole thing stinks to high heaven.

"Beck claims 1.7 million." And you believe him? EVERYONE else is saying 60K MAX!
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Julius Civitatus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 09:13 AM
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20. Fox got PUNKED!
Love it!
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Vilis Veritas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 09:23 AM
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24. Beck needs to be put in a straight jacket in a padded room.
He is going to get someone hurt with his rantings...

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hellsbeagle Donating Member (38 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 09:53 AM
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26. Glenn Beck is such a tool....
and he is a terrible actor. It is difficult for me to believe that anyone buy this this nonsense. Even the dullards who watch Fox News should see through this.
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euphoria12leo Donating Member (511 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 10:15 AM
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27. The dullards love Beck
They believe what he has to say and it makes their day. Just remember Charles Manson gets a ton of mail from
all the crazies. Like Manson, Beck is crazy and dangerous. I would love to see Beck on "Lockup" one day.
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 10:31 AM
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28. Hell! He's no where near being an Alfred E. Neuman.
Edited on Wed Sep-16-09 10:31 AM by Wizard777
Mad Magazine has more journalistic integrity than Glen Beck and FOX.
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svpadgham Donating Member (374 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 10:36 AM
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29. I didn't watch the entire video.
I can't watch an 8 minute video of Blecch without getting that vomity taste in my mouth, but what I did see of the woman claiming she shot her hubby was a claim that is was in self defense because he was abusive. Why would Blecch be upset over somebody that killed someone in self defense being hired? Again, I didn't watch the whole thing so I may have missed something, but it seems like he should be just as angry about former cops or soldiers that have shot someone getting another job. He's such an idiot.
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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 10:41 AM
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32. Only white males are allowed to defend themselves.
that's why he acts so disgusted.
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svpadgham Donating Member (374 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 12:58 PM
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40. I thought it had something to do with that.
n/t
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RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 11:49 AM
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36. MediaMatters just posted this as well
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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 11:55 AM
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38. I would post that in the main video section - nt
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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 11:50 AM
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37. uttering Edward R Murrow in the same sentence as himself is an insult to real journalism

I suppose Michelle Bachmann is Betsy Ross

and Sarah Palin is Martha Washington

and Hannity is Thomas Jefferson and Lou Dobbs, our very own Ben Franklin.

Laughable Beck if not for the fact that he blames an organization for an employee's actions, and no doubt before they were working there, and no doubt as if she is actually running the organization. Obviously from listening to the video, she ain't in upper management!

Is Beck suggesting we shut down the Church for all the crimes committed by so many priests? I'm surprised. And the Police. How many crimes have officers committed. Time to shut the Police down, is that what Beck is suggesting? The military? Is he equating that with our Military? Every business. Every organized group. Because at some point, everyone is a member of some group.

In fact I believe the guy that shot Tiller was an avid Glenn Beck watcher - so I guess we know the next step here.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 05:40 PM
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41. "Is this theater"? His show is vaudeville. nt
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