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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 04:12 PM
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Right-wing terrorist calling for a million armed man march on Washington
 
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Highlights...

He admits it's intimadation...

He says America is NOT a democracy!
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 04:17 PM
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1. At that point would he have actually raised a private army, and can we do something about it?
Edited on Sun Aug-23-09 04:17 PM by GreenPartyVoter
(Although I am not sure all that many people would show up.)
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 04:18 PM
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3. Raise our own army?n/t
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 04:22 PM
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5. Well, we certainly have plenty of liberals who own guns, but I am
sure that an armed confrontation between the two groups would end very badly. :(
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 04:24 PM
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6. I agree. I was being snarky, however, I think we can outnumber them even
if we are unarmed. Someone suggested carrying obviously toy guns to make fun of them and for a statement.
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 06:46 PM
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18. Just show up as unarmed counter demonstartors. Classic People Power
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 07:56 PM
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25. LOL I love the idea of carrying obviously toy guns. Something like these?
Edited on Sun Aug-23-09 08:09 PM by Turborama









& my fave...

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 05:17 PM
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 04:18 PM
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2. Why is this allowed?
It never was tolerated in the sixties. Anyone with a firearm found themselves in the gray bar hotel.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 04:20 PM
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4. They have been on this kick for a couple months now
Let them go ahead and have their damned march. It's against the law to CCW in DC without a permit and I would gladly watch the arrests on CSPAN :)
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 04:27 PM
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7. It would be open carry and it would tremendously exceed the ability of the DC Police to handle
such an event. It would be a major civil disobedience demonstration. Remember those? Poor peoples march on Washington comes to mind. Liberals used to think they were very chic. Some are now rethinking that since the shoe is now on the other foot.

Seriously...this will fizzle as have others. Even the million man march wasn't even close. It will die of its own accord.

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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 06:11 PM
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15. Because a poor peoples march is exactly the same thing as a bunch of right wing gun nuts
marching while armed! :sarcasm:
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 06:44 PM
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17. Same tools, different end
Edited on Sun Aug-23-09 06:51 PM by ProgressiveProfessor
I get some wry amusement when I see those who used things like civil disobedience and upsetting signs/billboards when they were young and radical getting upset when the same techniques are used by those they now oppose. The irony is delcious. Those who demonstrated for free speech on campus are those now insisting on hidden away minuscule free speech zones on those same campuses.

In the example I brought up was the Poor Peoples March on Washington in the summer of 1968. Not sure many remember it. To my recollection it was the last really big attention getting demonstration in DC. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poor_People\'s_Campaign The recent Million {insert here} Marches have been minor. None of the anti war, pro war, anti abortion rallys have amounted to much either IMO. The gun nutter rally will similarly not amount to much, if it even happens
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 06:58 PM
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20. I have participated in several large anti-war marches in several locations all over the country
since March of 2003. And yes they amounted to more than you apparently realize.

My point stands. A peaceful march is not remotely the same thing as a bunch of armed wingnuts marching on the mall. Not even close.
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 07:14 PM
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22. Its not that I do not support demonstrations, its that they accomplish little or nothing except
making the participants feel good. However, self esteem does not effect change in national policy.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 04:27 PM
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8. Good point.
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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 04:32 PM
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9. As I understand it, it is illegal to open or concealed carry in DC for all intents and purposes.

So it can't happen unless it is an act of civil disobedience. And that kind of civil disobedience would lead to painful consequences.
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 06:49 PM
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19. Conceivably if enough showed up, it would overwhelm the DC police
Edited on Sun Aug-23-09 06:49 PM by ProgressiveProfessor
and Fenty would wet his pants over it, while screaming for Federal backup.

I do not believe that it will happen, and this march like all the other Million {insert here}Marches will be inconsequential.
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 07:50 PM
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24. The greater police presence in DC is Federal vs DC Metro....
a march would involve Federal property hence DC police would be out of the loop.
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droidamus2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 04:38 PM
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10. Great
All it would take is one backfire or firecracker and you would end up with a major fire fight where nobody really knew what they were fighting about. Somebody gets made or has a few to many and decides he's carrying and he ain't gunna take nothin' from no liburl and decides to take a couple of shots to show em he ain't scared a them. Don't know how you would stop it. If they want to march for gun rights or whatever else they've decided to be outraged about fine but leave the guns at home.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 06:07 PM
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14. Let them all shoot each other!
Sounds like a plan :)
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 11:21 PM
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33. Who'll volunteer to toss a fire-cracker into the crowd?
;)
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 11:36 PM
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35. There are some DC area DUers who will probably volunteer!
LOL
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humbled_opinion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 05:21 PM
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12. Idiots
A bunch of wacked out racist southern angry white people with inferiority complex, all carrying weapons in a march on the mall in D.C.

I mean there are many obama - Lincoln parallels but to be honest I didn't see this one coming.
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bloomington-lib Donating Member (513 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 05:42 PM
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13. I'm not in the mood to watch something like this now but can someone
tell me if this "march" is in the works or is this just another crazy basement guy talking to his companions in his head?
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Seldona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 06:31 PM
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16. What a bunch of cry babies.
They need to deal with the fact that they no longer have any real power. Once the President decides to remove them from the process for never-ending obstruction, they will really go off.

I hope law enforcement is ready. These people are crazy.
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Juche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 10:59 PM
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32. Agreed. Right wing terrorism is going to get a lot worse
Once they figure out that the public aren't going to vote them or their politicians back into power and that they truly have lost control of the country, its going to get much, much worse. These people don't respect the concept of democracy, and if they can't win in elections they will eventually resort to violence. I hope the FBI is preparing. The DHS did a report showing that right wing terror was going to get a lot worse, so I hope they are preparing for that.
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MarinCoUSA Donating Member (783 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 07:12 PM
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21. Hey Jackass with the gun! Yeh, You with the size 6.5 shoe size!
...... jesus christ. If I ever see one of these assholes (not likely) in public, I will probably get arrested calling the dumb fuck names.
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 08:13 PM
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28. Shoe SIze? More like hat size
The raises the question...does anyone outside of the military/police/marching band or other uniformed activity wear hats that are sized?
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Hardrada Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 07:39 PM
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23. Don't you think the FBI etc. hasn't been infiltrating and observing
this for awhile now? They sure did with the SDS I recall.
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 07:58 PM
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26. Looks like
his Mom has a nice basement!
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AlbertCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 08:12 PM
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27. Oh yeah!
The "Promise keepers" million man march was such a SUCCESS!!!!

:eyes:
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Grassy Knoll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 08:30 PM
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29. Neil Young Says it best
SOUTHERN MAN BETTER
KEEP YOUR HEAD
DON'T FORGET WHAT YOUR
GOOD BOOK SAID..

Get over it , you lost.
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StarryNite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 09:02 PM
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30. I love Neil Young!
I actually got to meet him for about 30 seconds
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Grassy Knoll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 09:56 PM
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31. And I like Van Gogh...
But my point being, these freepers hope there is going to be another civil war
but they dident win the first round, and taking on the government for a second
round , well it's all smoke and mirrors. This movement is not about heath care
or cap and trade or what ever he would like to do to improve our world, the reason
is he is black and a Democrat, so these hate thugs that listen to Rush, and
FOX NOISE are convinced that this president is bad news until they get their
war mongering Repupick-CANT back in office.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 11:27 PM
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34. and Crown thy good with brotherhood from sea to shining sea
:think:
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hmorehead Donating Member (656 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 11:43 PM
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36. As a progressive I am armed, too.
I am armed because the right wingers are armed and my government is armed. I am not going down without a fight, and I see no way in hell that the dingbats will ever be unarmed. They want to intimidate us and stiffle free speech that isn't theirs.
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