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greenman3610 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 09:58 AM
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Climate Denial Crock of the Week - Denial was a River in Africa
 
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In 2 decades of wars for oil and resources, the fossil fuel industry has gotten a lot of bad press.
But climate deniers are people too, and they need to feel good about themselves and what they do. So they've worked hard overcome feelings of guilt.

It's a defense I call, "Therapeutic denial".....
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 10:35 AM
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1. That point can't be hammered on enough.
Global warming is natural? It will have no long-term negative effects?

Bullshit - GW is already starving thousands every day, it will starve millions. If we do nothing, BILLIONS.

Of course, most of them will be poor people with dark skin elsewhere in the world.
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AlbertCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 11:38 AM
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3. Global warming is natural? It will have no long-term negative effects?
Edited on Sun Aug-23-09 11:56 AM by AlbertCat
I know!

That asteroid that hit the Earth 65 million years ago was natural too. No lasting effects for the dominate creatures at all!


Like Carl Sagan said years and years ago, if we don't do something (about overpopulation) then nature will, as it has in the past with many species, using starvation and disease to try to get things in balance. Of course overpopulation and climate change are linked. And the same rules apply. Nature (or god, if you want to call it that) is unconcerned with what we want and will do its thing without our consent. The laws of physics cannot be changed or circumnavigated.

But don't worry! The whole world is just like your back yard!
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 11:03 AM
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2. climate deniers are extremely ignorant or just plain liars
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imdjh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 02:32 PM
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6. Well, when you put such a stupid label on such, one supposes you are guaranteed
to be correct.

Not buying into a steady stream of end times bullshit regardless of whether it's Christians or the cause-impaired.
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greenman3610 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 03:38 PM
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7. Christian end times bullshit
is based on selective, faith based, irrational reading of mythical texts.

Global warming is established science. And there is no
promise of a saviour to come and rescue us if we screw this one up.
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imdjh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 05:05 PM
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8. The opinion of God too often agrees with that of his followers.
The same can be said of Global Warming enthusiasts. The "established" science too often agrees with a pre-existing agenda to be considered less than suspect.
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greenman3610 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 07:52 PM
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12. the difference is, I can cite data and peer reviewed sources
And, we have a National Academy of Science that has weighed in on this issue
clearly for over 30 years. In fact, essentially every respected scientific
body on the planet has made it clear that AGW is real, and the consequences serious.
Since I am not a climate scientist, I seek out and defer to the opinions of the vast majority of those that
are.

If you have some additional information, other than droppings from Glenn Beck or Rush Limbaugh,
(which are not peer reviewed sources)
I would encourage you to cite it.
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imdjh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 10:29 PM
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13. And now I'm supposed to prove that something that doesn't exist...
Edited on Sun Aug-23-09 10:31 PM by imdjh
... in the manner in which you present its existence isn't caused by the things you say causes it.

Show me an article, ONE ARTICLE from a respectable source that doesn't employ the subjunctive mood in discussion of the alleged effects and progress of Global Warming.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 05:45 PM
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9. I'm 66 years old. I have seen the changes.
We have already overpopulated the planet. We are destroying it.
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imdjh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 06:29 PM
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11. I'm 51 and have seen good and bad.
When I was a kid, the bay water here was clear and the bottom was crawling with tropical shellfish. The development of the 1960's trashed the bays pretty good, but since 1980 there had been some remarkable recovery, even if the more beautiful conchs haven't returned. By the same token, I haven't heard much about barracuda either.

Yes, there has been a lot of environmental damage, but to lump that in with Global Warming has to be considered contrived. It's like saying that creek erosion outside mines is the result of Global Warming, it simply isn't. But the "beauty" of Global Warming is that it's such a catch all, and so many people are willing to accept it as such.
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jimlup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 01:24 PM
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4. thanks
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imdjh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 02:30 PM
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5. childish
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 05:47 PM
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10. I'm 66 years old. I have seen the changes.
We have already overpopulated the planet. We are destroying it. Whatever happened to Zero Population Growth movement?
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