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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-05-09 09:36 AM
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Obama visits Buchenwald - 5/6/2009
 
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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-05-09 09:42 AM
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1. Our president is a beautiful man...inside where it counts the most.
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-05-09 10:11 AM
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2. and every foreign dignitary should visit the U.S. plantations too
There is a point where going to a concentration camp every time a U.S. president visits Germany becomes off topic to the people he's gone to visit.

I suppose it would be equivalent to Plantation visits every time a European president visited here. I am flame proof - just pointing out that while of significant historical value, it's at the same time a little odd and nontopical to the purpose of the visit.
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Lancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-05-09 10:42 AM
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3. Maybe it would be better
if all U.S. Presidents counterbalanced the obligatory trips to the camps with wreathlaying ceremonies at SS cemeteries instead. Reagan tried to mix it up a little that way.
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Patiod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-05-09 10:49 AM
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4. Although this time, it wasn't all that off topic
when some of the people in yesterday's audience were Holocaust deniers.

Just visiting sort "because you're in the area" is one thing, but this underlined the point he made yesterday.

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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-05-09 11:11 AM
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6. Exactly.
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-05-09 02:31 PM
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11. so Obama went to Germany to address holocaust deniers?
my bad ... guess I'm underinformed.

Maybe Obama as usual overlooked the people in front of him in the process of addressing holocaust deniers.

So by this logic and the "EXACTLY" that followed, Angela Merkel should go visit plantations if she comes here on economic business and there's someone in the audience wearing a pointy white hat.

:shrug:

It does honor, and every president should visit a concentration camp once in their lifetime. It doesn't really hurt anyone, but it is as off target as visiting America to tour the plantations. That's all. I wasn't responsible for slavery. I wasn't responsible for concentration camps. In fact an entire generation of german children right after the war HATED their parents' generation after understanding what the concentration camps were, but we blithely rub their faces in it on every visit.

Sins of the father and all that, I guess, so long as we don't insist that the first fact we know about America is slavery and plantations. Just first facts about Germany being home and history to concentration camps. It's so . . . American to think that way.
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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-05-09 10:55 AM
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5. As somebody who's barely been to the South, can I ask you...
...are there many plantations that are still standing and well preserved today, complete with slave quarters and so on?

The only ones I can think of, embarrassingly enough for the US, are Monticello and Mount Vernon.
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phatkatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-05-09 11:24 AM
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8. There are several houses near my neighborhood with "servant quarters"
I live in an old section of town (in the south) where many large houses were built in the early 1800's by wealthy merchants. Many have a small house in the back, and I don't mean a kid's playhouse.
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-05-09 02:23 PM
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10. Most that are still standing are family homes now
but there are a few that I've seen in the environs of Loooziana that are little museums -

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Loki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-05-09 11:18 AM
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7. Does anyone know the significance of the White Roses?
Was this in tribute or remembrance to the White Rose Society?
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stlsaxman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-05-09 12:04 PM
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9. an excellent guess. that was my supposition as well.
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AzNick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-05-09 06:03 PM
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12. I hate the sound of all these DSLRs...
With the possibility to store so many photos on an SD card (literally thousands versus 36-ish with film), now photographers just shoot on non-stop and it's getting aggravating, I swear.

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