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GoLeft TV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-19-09 11:06 AM
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Supreme Court Sets Dangerous Precedent for Torture Lawsuits
 
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sattahipdeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-19-09 12:02 PM
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1. Oil and water.
The Bush administration said that Ashcroft and Mueller have immunity, that they should not be held personally liable and that the lawsuit against them should be dismissed.

Ashcroft and Mueller argued they have qualified legal immunity because any misconduct was done by lower-level officials and they had no personal involvement in or knowledge of the alleged abuse.

The issue before the Supreme Court involved only whether Iqbal's lawsuit against Ashcroft and Mueller could continue and did not address his claims of mistreatment against other lower-ranking current and former government officials.
http://www.reuters.com/article/latestCrisis/idUSN18349048

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=5676592&mesg_id=5676592


The difference between the attitude of the supreme court justice in the clip and what we are hearing now from the current supreme court justices is the difference between oil and water.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=385&topic_id=313503&mesg_id=313503
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-19-09 12:07 PM
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2. The court did not reach the merits of the claim or even
adopt the immunity claims. SCOTUS said that the complaint was deficient and it should have alleged the wrongs of the parties with greater specificity. SCOTUS also told the 2nd Circuit that they should decide if the case should be remanded to the district court so that Iqbal can seek leave or permission to correct the complaint, so that he can plead with specificity the facts that establish a claim for the relief sought.

I'd hope the discussion of the panel included the discussion of the holdings and not just the media's interpretation (often flawed as reflected in the video that is the heart of this OP).

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