Olbermann: 'If a Democrat is Culpable in Torture Then They Can Go to Hell, Too'

[Hissyspit]

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MSNBC Countdown w/ KEITH OLBERMANN - May 8, 2009: Keith discusses with Jonathan Alter Dick Cheney's advice on the future of the GOP to not moderate. Alter's response: "This is a shrinking party. It is a white, old, poorly educated regional party. Toward the end, Olbermann responds to the accusations about Pelosi knowing of the Bush administration torture tactics. "When are Republicans going to realize this in not first about party. It is about the traducing of our national character, the selling out of our principles in what was a phony, ineffective pretense of protecting those principles. If a Democrat is also culpable, then they can go to hell, too."

[pleah]

1. K&R!!!!!!!!! I agree 100000000000000%!

You fucking torture! You go to jail! PERIOD!

[ProSense]

2. Torture is crime, regardless of party affiliation. Still, I wonder how many people are going to be

disappointed when no Democrat is prosecuted for Bush officials' approval of torture?

Seems Olbermann is throwing the Repub's argument back at them.

[nadinbrzezinski]

4. I wonder how many will be disappointed when nobody is prosecuted

beyond a couple "bad apples"

Empire, that is what this is happening here.

[ProSense]

5. "beyond a couple "bad apples""

As long as somebody is prosecuted, and it's pretty clear who the targets should be.

[nadinbrzezinski]

7. They already have, Private Lindle England and Sergeant Graener

the rest of this is just a nice set of smoke and mirrors...

This is our two tier justice system... there is the justice for the worker bees, and the justice for the well connected DC insiders.

Yep, go ahead and call me cynical.

[ejpoeta]

11. i don't think it's cynical... it's how it is, and it make me sick. and i feel as if we can't do

anything. our local station did a story about how once a ny pol is elected, it is nearly impossible to unseat them and i wonder how hard it is to unseat a us pol. they keep getting elected no matter how bad they are. does no one pay any attention to what they are doing!! they all work for their corporate sponsors while we just twist in the wind.

[nadinbrzezinski]

3. Yep, this is not, rather should not, be political

this is a crime

PERIOD

And those who go fer the fracking partisan well get off that horsey... I am tired of this, but, but, but, it is OUR people.

Not my people, those who dare defend, or protect torture. Sorry.

[Solly Mack]

6. K&R

[rhett o rick]

8. Good gravy, can't KO just look forward?? nm

[Ozymanithrax]

9. A couple of enlisted soldiers were convicted.

A general was busted.

What do you want, Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice and their lawyers to be indicted, tried, and convicted of crimes against humanity. I mean, what kind of country would we be if we actually made the people who made the decisions and gave the orders responsible for their crimes?

And if Pelosi knew, she can go, also. If I recall, you can not legally classify something simply to hide a crime. If she knew that a crime was being committed, she has a responsibility to say something, even if it does mean her career.

[SKKY]

10. EXACTLY!!! If any Dem was complicit with the former administration's torture policy...

...peace out boy scout! You're done.

[Dinger]

12. I Agree. This ISN'T A Party Thing

K & R

[Wednesdays]

13. K&R

:kick:

[Stinger2]

18. Interview with U.N. Torture Official Manfred Novak

Interview with U.N. Torture Official Manfred Novak

Earlier this week, I interviewed Manfred Nowak, the U.N. Special Rapporteur on Torture, regarding America's obligations under its treaties and international law to investigate and prosecute allegations of torture and provide legal remedies for torture victims to have their day in court. The podcast recording, and background on these issues, is here. Following is the transcript of the interview:

http://www.cageprisoners.com/articles.php?id=28811

This will cost the tax payers a good chunk of change in restitution to tortured victims of the Bush Administration insanity.

[ChiciB1]

14. Go KO... There Are Many In MY Circle Of Friends Who Are Paying MUCH More

attention to this issue. At first they were saying "give Obama & DOJ time" but I now have come to see this as an equal opportunity operation. It now makes a LOT MORE sense why this thing isn't getting investigated, or why there is foot dragging. I think we will also soon see the names of DIFI & Rockefeller rising to the top. There may be many more too!

For such a long time I've thought "we the people" have been ignored by our representatives and they only do their "own" thing. I know I recently wrote BOTH my Senators about my credit card interest being raised when Chase bought WaMu. I have NEVER been late, and ALWAYS paid more than the required payment... so I get penalized! Also contacted my Congressional Representative... NOT ONE of them have even acknowledged my inquiries!!

I'm SICK OF IT!! It was supposed to be different now!!

[navarth]

15. K & R

[WestSeattle2]

16. Totally agree with Keith....by the way,

if waterboarding isn't torture, than why would they do it?

[bobbolink]

17. Cheney is Right--- It IS about principles. It IS about values.

It is also about OUR philosophy.

If we also put party ahead of country and excuse those who are culpable because they have a D behind their name, then WE are selling our country downt the river.

[Baby Snooks]

22. But we're supposed to do just that!

Wave the flag and support the Democrat. No matter what.

[bobbolink]

24. Some of us refuse. Country and principles FIRST!

And, yes, we will be attacked relentlessly.

It frightens people to see others stand by their principles.

[Torn_Scorned_Ignored]

19. I'm glad KO feels that way

Who wants to start the list?

I'm pretty sure I can add to it.

[liberal N proud]

20. I couldn't agree more

[mmonk]

21. Amen

[OwnedByFerrets]

23. It is NOT about party. Its about the laws of our country.

[EFerrari]

25. And it's not only just about our "national character".

It's about egregious human rights violations up to and including MURDER.

[Bette Noir]

26. Keithie is my hero.

[Dr.Phool]

27. Investigate. Indict. Prosecute. Convict. Throw away the key!

Aybody who was culpable, regardless of party, belongs in jail.

Confidentiality rules don't cover heinous crimes. Period.

Now, when pigs fly, I'll have some respect for Washington again. It just ain't gonna happen.

[TankLV]

28. When are these WAR CRIMINALS going to realize IT'S NOT ABOUT "PARTY" IT'S ABOUT JUSTICE!

AND THE RULE OF "LAW"!!!

Call these assholes bluff - PROSECUTE EVERYONE involved...

THE UNITED STATES DOES NOT TORTURE!

And "water boarding" and the rest IS "torture"!!!

[Blackhatjack]

29. You can bet the blackmail threats have been flying on Capitol Hill....

All you have to do is look at who has been under electronic surveillance without the necessity of a warrant to assume you might have been overheard yourself.

[roguevalley]

30. I agree with Keith. Anyone who did or agreed to this, to jail.

[MasonJar]

31. The laws need to be altered so that when a crime has been or might be

committed, the reps or whistleblowers can do something about it without being accused of treason under national security restrictions. There should be some recourse for them to stop such outrageous behavior as war crimes without being subjected to penalties themselves.

[kevsters]

32. Let them all burn, if they had a hand in it.

But first, we need to get people on board with prosecution. Polls are trending toward people not wanting to prosecute. Righties are winning the P.R. war, especially with the ridiculous talking point of "we do this to our own soldiers, therefore it's not torture" crap.

We have to start debunking these lies.

http://progressnotcongress.org/blog/?p=849

[quidam56]

33. This will be a sad day when all this goes down into the history books.

America's reputation like it's flag is soiled for eternity.

http://www.wisecountyissues.com

[pettypace]

34. Wouldn't going to "hell" be considered torture?

Maybe he meant "go to prison" then.

[sattahipdeep]

35. I Have a Dream

"Justice is not done yet," Asst. U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald told jurors. "Each of you will be convinced in the end that the only just punishment that does justice for the victims is the death penalty."


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