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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 07:10 AM
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OUTRAGE: New Movie Outing Gay Politicians
 
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 07:41 AM
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1. Perceived...Perceived as anti-gay
Edited on Sun May-03-09 07:50 AM by rpannier
What an intro

on edit: I wish to add my outrage to this report...these people are obviously very anti-feline.
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WillParkinson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 07:49 AM
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2. O. M. Goodness....
"Perceived" Not once, but twice, like we THINK it's anti-gay, but in reality we're wrong. That was ridiculous.
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Merlot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 08:38 PM
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12. Yes, I was very offended by the cruelty to animals being repeated 3 times
and I caught the "perceived" as well. It was like the guy was tiptoeing around this.
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Seldona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 09:42 AM
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13. You are aware that in actuality there is no swinging, dead, cat?
It is a saying. A crude one, but hardly animal cruelty, since no animals were were even involved in this piece let alone harmed.

Like cats are walking around pissed at this video or something?

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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 07:58 AM
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3. and the film names names....
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ProfessorPlum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 08:01 AM
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4. Bill Maher was talking about a movie like this on Larry King
many moons ago, and then sort of fell silent on the issue and half-apologized, probably for fear of being sued. I wonder if this was the movie he was talking about?
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Swede Atlanta Donating Member (906 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 08:04 AM
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5. As a gay man I am normally opposed to "outing"
I think a person's personal decisions on whether and when and to whom to reveal matters of sexual orientation should be respected as private. That said, I am not at all opposed to a person being outed when their behavior, in words or acts, harm others. The harm can be direct - for example telling a gay joke that shames or hurts a self-identified gay person in front of others. The harm can also be more indirect - for example telling that same joke may in fact keep a person who is experiencing confusion and curiosity in their sexual orientation from seeking clarity or coming out.

But I strongly support and endorse outing when the person being outed has engaged in conduct that is harmful because of their position of power. That power takes many forms - persons who are viewed as having a special level relationship of trust and persons who can wield political and financial power over others.

It can be a physician or psychologist that tells someone that a gay lifestyle is sick. It can be a pastor or rabbi that tells a gay person they are going to hell. It can be an employer, banker or other person that wields financial control using a person's sexuality to deny them a job, a promotion, a loan, etc. And the height of hypocrisy is the legislator, judge or other person in government that uses their position to deny gays rights, or otherwise abuses their position of power to the detriment of gays when they themselves are gay or lesbian. It is bad enough when non-gays abuse power and harm gays but a gay deliberately harming another gay person for the sake of appearances, etc. is the worst.
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Fearless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 08:28 AM
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6. This does not help us. This will breed hate for us.
Edited on Sun May-03-09 08:33 AM by Fearless
They do not have the right to affect other's lives this way. Period. It is not up to him to out gay people. This is a disgusting and disgraceful attempt at doing something good. They're talking about staffers too? Regular people who are trying to make a living in Washington? This is going to do way more harm than good.
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ProfessorPlum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 08:56 AM
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9. by "us" do you mean gay people and friends of gay people
or liberals/progressives/Democrats in general. Because both groups have had the opportunity to make this kind of movie for years and years and have not taken it, while the gay hate-mongers have continued to oppress gay people.

Maybe this will help stop this behavior.
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Fearless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 02:10 PM
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11. By us I mean gay people. This will not help our image.
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florida08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 08:31 AM
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7. I would agree
To out someone is not reporting. To report on people being suppressed is one thing but shouldn't name names. Just as if someone didn't know they were adopted and found out in the media. It's a private issue unless they had been told beforehand and gave their consent.
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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 08:38 AM
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8. Ted Haggard is perfect example - attacking with one hand while the other goes 'diddling' around

I have to say if the Republicans are smart (and they likely aren't) they'll try to leapfrog the Democrats by calling for complete acceptance of gays in marriage, equal rights, etc - calling it an infringement of government into personal lives... but we all know that ideology stops at their bibles and that is where they'll draw the line. Even if moderates in the GOP start to take on the tone of acceptance, the far right will cling to that inbred mantra of hate like a humping dog to its favorite stuffed animal.
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 12:28 AM
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10. Outrage Movie Trailer
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