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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 08:00 AM
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TYT RANT: Chuck Todd's Shoddy Journalism On Prosecution
Edited on Wed Apr-22-09 08:07 AM by ihavenobias
 
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CherylK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 08:12 AM
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1. K & R!!!
:applause: :yourock:
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Ticonderoga Donating Member (489 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 09:01 AM
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2. Please MSNBC
Remove Morning Jerk from the A.M. time slot and install Cenk in his place.
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spiritual_gunfighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 09:02 AM
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5. Wow that would be a great idea
I would stop watching repeats of Sportscenter and Mike And Mike In The Morning.
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 12:20 PM
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14. Love him or hate him, you have to respect him for calling out Todd.
He's also called out CNBC and Scarborough (recently). I say respect him in the context of the fact that he's trying to get a job with MSNBC.
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ejbr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 08:43 PM
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31. Chuck Todd is applying for a job at Fox n/t
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 12:37 PM
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15. I second that!!!! I second that!!!! Morning Cenk would be so fab. nt
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spiritual_gunfighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 09:02 AM
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3. I have had some of my liberal friends tell me
how much they like Chuck Todd's reporting! I am always blown away by that. I think Cenk hit the nail on the head when it comes to Chuck. I don't think he is a Republican syncophant or anything he is just a really lazy reporter. I got that from him during the campaign, when he would always talk about "conventional wisdom" says and then spew some inane Republican talking point about Obama. Again I don't think he is gunning for the Republicans I just think that "conventional wisdom" is code for "Republican talking points".
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 10:10 AM
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8. He's very good at certain things
His election analysis, particularly on the electoral college numbers, was top notch work, for example. He's good at numbers and say correlating events from the past to the present etc, but he does exist in that DC echo chamber and his analysis of day to day subjects is very much on the conventional wisdom side of things.
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 02:47 PM
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21. Just admit it Bill.
You're a huge Todd fan!

:)
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 03:15 PM
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22. I need to be
I'm priming myself up for another run in 2012. :)
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 06:18 PM
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26. Wetzel/Palin 2012?
;)
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 06:42 PM
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28. I think it's going to be Wetzelbill/NanceGreggs
in some order or another. I had to drop Kurovski, he drug me down in the last election. He's slightly more ruthless than Dick Cheney and a little less popular.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 03:59 PM
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38. Correction...I "dragged" you down.
Your coke dealer did all the drugging. I wanted no part of that.

If I told you once, I told you one-thousand effing times...I'm strictly a vodka and Tylenol #3 man.

Geez-oh-man.
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 05:44 PM
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40. you have to admit
The -10 percent approval rating that you had in the last several polls hurt us. There is just no getting around it.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 06:26 PM
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41. Those polls were purchased with a purpose!
By...NANCE GREGGS!!!

I'm innocent I tells ya. Everybody effing loves the shit outta me and you know it! I wuz robbed, ya dirty bastards. Stop bein' a mook, I'm the original effing love train fer crissakes. Any ahole'll tell ya that!!!
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 10:57 AM
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10. I've always smelled something there! Go Cenk!
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 09:02 AM
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4. K&R!
:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 10:06 AM
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6. Chuck Todd sometimes answers emails
He's answered mine before, he's a reasonable guy, this might be worth sending to him or just bringing up the polls etc.
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Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 01:08 PM
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18. Please if you have his email
send this to him. He is never prepared and seems to be totally isolated within the beltway bubble.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 10:06 AM
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7. chuck you schmuck - IT'S NOT POLITICAL, you hack!
you got cheney saying it's not torture and we know his cred in society! Oh, and the muslim haters who want to nuke iran/iraq/afghanistan and kills tens of millions (I've heard more than one say it), they too want torture. But the majority of society is against it - and, even if there's arguments over who thinks its torture, to call it 'political' is realllllllly questionable on Chuck's part - he should be giving the Cheney argument back at the most by saying who says its not torture, and for him to call it political makes him look paid-off. Are you paid of Chuck?
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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 10:26 AM
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9. I didn't take it the same way, but this gives an interesting perspective - thanks for posting

I thought the memos did provide a legal 'gateway' for those contractors and staff of CIA who may have not been lawyers but thought they were doing something that 1. our troops went through in training, 2. was considered the absolute maximum you could allow, and therefore felt uneasy but assured to follow orders, given this 'status of combatant' which was not considered the same. I'm not saying it was right. I am saying that there was a sense when I read the memos that this wasn't done without a great deal of specificity - and these were the rules and it was carefully crafted. It would be like the Chinese water torture effect - which of the million drops becomes torture - is the first? is it the thousandth?

Anyway, I didn't read Chuck Todd's comments the same given that. Since Tim Russert left, there as always been something lacking in that whole arena in my opinion.
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aejlaw Donating Member (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 11:16 AM
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11. K&R
I either don't know or can't remember what K&R means, but this was one hell of an analysis by the Turk, so I hope it means I approve wholeheartedly.
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 07:58 PM
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30. Welcome to DU.
It's Kicked and Recommended, or Kick and Recommend.
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 11:23 AM
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12. K&R
:kick:
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libodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 11:23 AM
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13. .
:kick:
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 12:53 PM
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16. "ignorance of the law is no excuse"
an ancient doctrine, which (with good reason) applies today.

Well said Mr. Todd.

K and R
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pansypoo53219 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 01:00 PM
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17. he does have the evil parallel universe goatee.
it's the new jurnalism gnews paradiggem. democrat said/republikans said. pick the truth you want.
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Tutankhamun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 02:11 PM
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19. Exactly. Republican talking points get presented as a reasonable, populist argument,
Edited on Wed Apr-22-09 02:12 PM by Tutankhamun
no matter how outlandish they are. The media gives a version of "both sides" that's completely unreasonable, but since they've reported what the talking points say, they can pretend it's a viable POV from the right.

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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 02:12 PM
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20. Did I hear this CIA wonk's talking point correctly - President Obama and Vice President
Edited on Wed Apr-22-09 02:12 PM by truedelphi
Cheney?

Vice President Cheney?

Excuse us!?!

As of Jan 20th 2009, Cheney' s feelings on this should not matter.

In fact, it would be nice if every time that Cheney or Bush were referred to, it was mentioned that the only attack on our soil came under their watch, with virtually NO RESPONSE!
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ControlledDemolition Donating Member (901 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 06:33 PM
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42. 'But Bush and Cheney kept us all safe!'. I always chuckle when I hear this!!! n/t
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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 03:45 PM
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23. I have noticed that Chuck Todd is never on Olberman's or Maddow's programs
he was a hack from a local political rag who was 'discovered' doing cut ins on cspan. I dont' know if he was from CQ or Politi-ho, but he didn't really have any real national tv journalism experience before being brought on to msnbc.

And Andrea Mitchell is married to the man who is largely responsible for the fucking financial mess we're in right now. How can anyone think that they would consider reporting fairly about anything? They both are being told what to say by those who are cutting their paychecks and they don't have the integrity to risk forgoing their cushy lifestyle by reporting on the truth.

And why isn't dick cheney not in prison?
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 03:50 PM
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24. Chuck Todd and Andrea Mitchell are republiCon hacks, pass it on. nm
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Liberal_Christian Donating Member (387 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 04:10 PM
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25. Thank God we didn't have a lot of "Chuck Todd's" during the Nuremberg Trials.
I could hear them now; "What!?!?!?!?! Spending time and energy investigating war crimes?!?! Having high ranking nazi officials answer for their crimes!?!?!?! Too tough! Too hard! Too politicized! boo hoo! boo hoo hoo hoo! We can't handle that!"

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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 06:37 PM
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27. Amen k*r
Subtle point but critical. There are no legal opinions that santion waterboarding a guy 100-200 x's
a month or even a lifetime. That's torture. In addition, it's a good way to invalidate any information
gained from him.

Todd is a hoplite in the army of the faithful. Faithfuls to whom - the PTB and all the supporters
who think we're so exceptional that we can do crap like this. All of his experience and education
are belied by his role as a flack, like those paid audience members at La Scala. Their statements
and protests mean nothing.

Suggestioni to Cenk: Time to have Vince Bugliosi on the show or on the show again. He's smokin' on
this issue:

April 9, 2009 Vincent Bugliosi interview - torture & murder

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0904/S00097.htm
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 06:49 PM
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29. !
:thumbsup:
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Lisa0825 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 09:38 PM
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32. K&R!
:woohoo:
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matthewf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 11:35 PM
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33. k&r
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20score Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 03:34 AM
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34. A huge K&R!
Edited on Thu Apr-23-09 03:36 AM by 20score
It's also against the law to ignore the torture.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 04:04 AM
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35. Todd's just unwatchable- I turn the channel whenever he comes on
because he's basically just a waste of time.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 12:44 PM
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36. am I the only one here who thinks Cenk is hot?
:)
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Catamount Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 03:02 AM
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37. Totally agree with everything you said...but
this is hardly news is it?
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 05:35 PM
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39. You can pretty much smell Todd from the other side of the screen.
Hardly even a sleeper agent! :D
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