Chris Matthews Show - Who's Turn Is It For GOP Leader Now?

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The Chris Matthews Show April 11, 2009 - featuring Dan Rather

[The Wizard]

1. Maybe they could dig up Nixon's body (NT)

[DFW]

2. Given the GOP penchant for wanting exceptions from all rules

I wouldn't laugh too hard--they might dig him up and clone him.

Barring that, though, I'd say the concensus was right: they haven't hit upon the Republican
candidate for 2012 yet. But unless the world goes to hell in a basket, and the USA with it,
they had better be looking for some sacrificial lambs (like Bob Dole in 1996), because the
prospects of beating Obama, will be pretty dim, at least the way thing looks now. But three
years is a glacial age in politics, and that could change. If Obama should stumble, every
right winger who can still pronounce "Amurrika" and wave a flag (I won't even ask for literacy,
seeing as how their last successful candidate proved literacy to be a perk rather than a requirement)
will be jumping at the chance.

[libodem]

3. The Gingrich who stole Christmas

that's the best they've got?

[Drunken Irishman]

4. The Republicans better look to 2016, because they're not winning in 2012.

The economy is going to turn around, even if it's by the smallest of margins. Anything outside of things getting worse (which won't happen) will be a victory for Obama. These Republicans know it and I think you're going to start seeing the big hitters step aside in the next three years.

The fact is, unless your name is Adlai Stevenson, you're not going to win the nomination of your party a second time on the heels of an embarrassing blowout. And that's what the Republican will be facing in four years. So these younger candidates, like Sanford, Jindal and Palin, aren't going to put it all on the line, get their asses handed to them and then fall into obscurity nationally for the rest of their political lives. Hell, even Nixon had to leave the scene for eight years and that was AFTER he narrowly lost to Kennedy.

A blowout ends everything.

I could see Romney running because he thinks far higher of himself than most. But, as was proven last year, he isn't very well liked. Romney faded badly in the Republican Primaries and I don't see him catching much fire again.

In the end, that leaves a retread like Gingrich. He's essentially the 2012's Bob Dole. A has-been in the party that will only get the nomination because no one else wants it. Sort of a tip of the hat to his seniority in the party. Gingrich will rally the base, turnoff moderate voters and lose in a landslide, retire from politics officially and then you'll start seeing the likes of Sarah Palin, Mark Sanford and Bobby Jindal, as they ready for 2016.

Now the question we should be asking: Who do the Democrats run in 2016? Biden almost certainly won't run for president in eight years and I'm not even sure he'll be on the ticket in four (I think he could retire). We might be facing a similar situation in 2016 as we did last year, an open primary for both parties. Which I actually think benefits the Democrats, since Americans can easily get party fatigue and vote against the vice president. But we'll see.

[Robbins]

5. Republicans

The economy Is already showing early signs of recovery.Republicans are deluded If they think they can beat Obama.He could get up to 55 or 56 percent of the popular vote.Hell Republicans could have trouble getting 45 percent of the vote.Unlike some I don't see
romney as a big threat.Now If Mormans come up granted he could run better In Nevada as well as because of his father In Michigan
but just Imagne Obama In a debate commenting on Romney when need to run the government like a business and his wanting to cut
government spending In bad economic times.The Democratic groups will have a field day on his flipflooping on social Issues.He once
tried to say he was to the left on Ted Kennedy on Gay rights Issues.

Gingrich could be the 2012 Bob Dole.If he does Kieth Olberman will have a good time mocking him.

I expect Palin to run especilly since she has the backing of Boss Limbough.2012 Is her only shot at the nomination.The question Is
are they dumb enough to nominate her.

Sanford Is term limited as Governor so he may take a chance on 2012.

Jindal Is not running In 2012.He will wait for 2016.Huckabee may try again but relgias conservatives may Ignore him for Palin.

If Charlie Crist runs for the senate he may run In 2016.

For our side In 2016 don't count out Biden.Dole was 76 In 1996.Biden will turn 74 after the 2016 election.The 2016 Nomination could be a race to see who will continue for Obama.Hillary could try again.I think evan bayh's attitude Is he Is planning on a centist
run In 2016.Tim kaine and Mark warner are possiblts to run.And If Andrew curmo throws Paterson out I could see him running.

When Republicans start running against Obama expect time to say he Is the most liberal politican ever.Calling him spending money like crazy and saying his tax Increses(Ignoring middle class tax cuts) are hurting businesses.They may use the socialist line again,and site removing troops from Iraq Is hurting our safety.

[Ishoutandscream2]

6. Agreed. They will need to look toward 2016

That's a lot of time for some young, dynamic character to come out of the Republican Party. I know, right now it's laughable, but it can happen.