Amy Goodman: Land of Ruins

[grassfed]

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please see
http://www.phr.org.il/phr/article.asp?articleid=702&catid=55&pcat=-1&lang=ENG

[ProfessorPlum]

1. What a bunch of a-holes on both sides

The Israelis are a-holes for indiscriminately destroying everything, killing innocents, laying siege, and surrounding and confining the GS the way that they do. The Palestinians are a-holes for giving the Israelis the excuse they want/need to do it. How about some non-violent resistance, guys? Why shoot ineffective rockets over the border, just to incur this pointless, bloody wrath?

Stupid, all of them.

[grassfed]

2. Gandhi model worked because British and Indian elites shared common values. (Not so in I/P)

Gandhi model worked because British and Indian elites shared common values. (Not so in I/P)

A friend of Indian extraction writes:
Wow how appalling. The British Raj is comparable to the IDF, according to the Weekly Standard? Then by this definition Israel is imperialist and must leave. Is that what the Weekly Standard wants?

A Gandhi (the Rx of the Weekly Standard piece) requires an interluctor who undertands and responds favorably to non-violence. The Brits also needed Indian troops to fight the Nazis and told Indian elites they could expect self determination, provided they support them. The Israelis do not understand pacifism and have other pathologies in their society, some deeply rooted: the belief that the world is conspiring against them, the belief that the Arabs are equivalent to the Nazis, and that they are not culpable for the pathologies of the Palestinians, even while their jackboot is on their necks. I await that Weekly Standard piece.

British elites and Indian (Hindu and Muslim) elites shared common values and aspirations and were drawn from a common culture- Jinnah for the Muslims and Nehru for the Indians. The British elites, leftist in outlook, shared two common ideals: an anti-imperialist and anti-fascist stance. IDF/Israeli elites have nothing in common with the Palestinians. Indeed, the Israeli elites have contempt and loathing for the Palestinians that meets or exceeds the white apartheid loathing for African blacks and is coupled with a belief that the Israelis are the victims.

Should we ask the Abba Eban question in reverse: Do the Israelis ever miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity?

http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2009/03/gandhi-model-worked-because-british-and-indian-elites-shared-common-values-not-so-in-ip.html

[ProfessorPlum]

4. Non violence has worked in many other venues besides the

British Raj. The Palestinians really are victims, and they want to portray themselves are victims, but they keep giving Israel the stupid excuses they want to victimize them. It's stupid and self-defeating. And the Israelis never do miss an opportunity to act on those stupid excuses. A pox on both of their houses.

[NoName Left]

3. This shows the perfect recipe for creating absolute hatred.

How can Israel's leadership fail to realize the seething hate they are creating with their devastation? The answer is that they cannot fail to see this. The question is, why do they continue? What is the final goal they expect to achieve?

These are the acts of sadistic barbarians. I do not believe a majority of the Israeli people condone this. Having spent eight years enduring the sadistic, criminal Bush/CheneyCo. government of our own, I'm hoping that the Israeli people...with a conscience...can find a way to rid themselves of their own monsters who are driving them to the gates of hell. That is exactly where this is going, for the Israelis as well as for the Palestinians.