Bill Maher ---John the Nut Case O'Sullivan on Iraq

[Monkeyman]

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My Head Hurts wow:puke: :yoiks:

[Redstone]

1. How can such a beautiful woman (and especially one with her ethnic heritage) be so ignorant

as to be a "conservative?"

I don't get it. the "conservatives" in this country don't LIKE people with skin the color of hers. And she doesn't see that?

Redstone

[progdonkey]

4. she sees it... she just likes seeing herself on TV more...

You're giving her too much credit to assume she's ignorant, since it implies she's sincere but just misguided. It's not that she's ignorant, it's that she's a worthless money chaser who knows she'll have a long career as a GOP minstrel. As a Democrat, she'd probably be a low-level aide to John Edwards, since her being black wouldn't be anything special in the Democratic Party. Being black in the Republican Party is such a rarity, though, that it's a guaranteed shot at TV time. If she were a Democrat, would anyone give two shits about her? Would she be one of People's Most Beautiful People? Of course not.

As far as fitting in with people who "don't like people with skin the color of hers," she apparently has a thing for old white guys, as she's dated Lloyd Grove and Mickey Kaus, each just over twenty years her senior, so maybe she really does fit right in with that crowd.

[tularetom]

2. That asshole is proof that a British accent can't

always coverup the mind of an idiot.

[L0oniX]

5. He's sitting on an ass carrot

:freak:

[bjobotts]

3. Thank God these "idiots" don't run our country. Got everthing wrong

Payback's a bitch isn't it. Sunni led government killed and tortured Shiites for 30+ years and now Shiites get a chance to rule because we are propping them up. We thought we could just go in there and set up our own idea of US friendly Government and it backfired and now we would make it worse by withdrawing inspite of the fact that Iraqis want us out we say no...wouldn't be fair to the Sunnis. Who the hell do we think we are to decide these issues for the Iraqis? Our troops are over there dying trying to get things safe for a National government and their congress is going to take 2mos vacation off July-August. The war is lost, the slow escalation is Bush's only way to get out of office without admitting total and complete failure. No one has 'the' answer to his screw up but no matter how many troops we put in place for security the Sunnis are walking out of their congress and the Madhi army has already walked and we are just policing a civil war and would have to stay forever to prevent chaos. They will hit their own bottom and come to their own agreements without our occupation. It's none of our business trying to decide their government for them. Bush wants a foothold in the middle east for the oil so desperately that he's lost his reason and vision. They've been wrong on every single thing so far. It's not our business to continue to interfere in "their" business. Reid has had the fortitude to stand up and say what most of us believe to be true against all the minority loudmouths screaming fear and war. His is the 1st voice for seeing what is really there and bringing some sense back to the whole mess. That British speaking over inflated toad is trying to frame the whole affair with the same talking points that created this mess to begin with. And the black chick is a closed minded self-righteous bigot who lives in some unrealistic dimension without the first idea of what has happened in Iraq. Both totally protected from any of the real pain and tragedy of this war. They don't speak for us and neither does Bush...Reid and Pelosi do. So get off the stage and get out of our way...this war is lost and we want our troops home now.

[pretzel4gore]

7. well said

the thing is, the gopigs glibly lie about Kerry and Reid and Pelosi, mis stating what they said/did, and who's to tell them no? For 30 years we've seen o'sullivans etc misrepresenting everything, and getting away with it. "i met troops who think they're doing a good job"! What is that greased mediawhore trying to say? A million people died for bush, and the liars who created bush...

[southpaw]

6. Amy Holmes is so typical of conservative thinking...

She says

"there is a huge difference between William F. Buckley, a columnist, saying the war is lost and Harry Reid, the majority leader, saying it and passing laws about it while we have troops on the ground" <--quoted from memory, may not be word-for-word accurate...

I see no difference at all. The truth is the truth, no matter who says it. In fact, I think it especially vital that elected officials be aware of the truth and willing to speak of it. Does she prefer that they pretend ignorance when making laws?

Actually, she demonstrates two critical flaws of republican-conservative thinking in this one statement:
1. Faux Patriotism: saying anything less than favorable about the war, even if it is demonstrably true, is tantamount to not supporting the troops.

2. Hypocrisy: It is O.K. for a conservative columnist (Buckley) to say that the war is lost, but not O.K. for a Democratic elected official (or a left-wing columnist, if she were honest) to say the same.