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Founding Fathers Donating Member (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 02:27 PM
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John Dean: Obama needs to prosecute Bush/Cheney!
Edited on Sat Dec-20-08 02:53 PM by Founding Fathers
 
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Former Nixon counsel wants Obama to prosecute Bush & Cheney for war crimes/torture.

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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 02:31 PM
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1. I agree 100%
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proud progressive Donating Member (358 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 04:21 PM
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2. notice that dean said they should be 'investigated', not prosecuted.
i think it is obvious that bush and cheney, and probably the rest of the bunch, will never be prosecuted. however, the investigation should shed light on why they did it, what they got, and if it did any good.
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-08 12:28 AM
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3. no need of an investigation to shed light on...
Edited on Sun Dec-21-08 12:28 AM by Amonester
why they did it: look at any right-wing extremist dictatorship. Why did they do it? Because they were sociopaths-psychopaths and they were drunk with power. Absolute power. War criminals do it for... the (mentally-sick) "fun" they get out of it.

Now, to the what they got question: they got what they wanted to get, and that is as far to "the truth" as can ever be, so that answers the if it did any good question (not to mention the horrendous damages on the United States of America's reputation in the entire world :( )
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-08 03:06 PM
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14. A formal investigation is necessary to bring forward the charges.
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AsahinaKimi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-08 05:27 AM
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4. Its time the teflon was removed...from the Bush Administration.
A crime, is a crime is a crime.
Get on with it.
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cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-08 07:30 AM
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5. Whoa that's pretty huge him saying that, but I'm still edgy they will pull some dictatorship thing>
if we try anything. Even so I just can't see it happening really, if it happens I'd be completely suprised.
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ThisThreadIsSatire Donating Member (697 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-08 11:20 AM
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6. Cheney Earns $50 Million Al Qaeda Bonus
Edited on Sun Dec-21-08 11:41 AM by The System Stinks
Cheney Earns $50 Million Al Qaeda Bonus
December 16, 2008 TheDesperateBlogger.com

Jihadists Overwhelm Recruitment Centers After Televised Interview

Al Qaeda today announced that United States Vice President Dick Cheney has earned a $50 million bonus as the organization’s top recruiter for calendar year 2008. A spokesman, who described Cheney as “Our Prophet of Marketing” read a congratulatory greeting to the Vice President from none other than Osama bin Laden, which read:

“My dear, special Dick, it is with profound pleasure and gratitude that I present you with this year’s award as our top recruiter for jihad. With brothers as yourself causing young warriors to enlist in our blessed cause faster than even we can blow them up, I know we will one day prove victorious over all of the world’s infidel capitalist dogs. When we began this most holy crusade, pretty much all we had was balls. I am certain there is nothing that can stop us now that we also have such an incredible Dick…”

The spokesman, Baraq Hossein Ubama (no relation. Ed.), added that the Cheney-ABC News interview, in which the Vice President proudly acknowledged that torture (including ‘water-boarding’) was used during prisoner interrogations at Guantanamo Bay with Bush Administration approval, would continue to be broadcast “around the clock in fertile jihad breeding grounds” in Africa, Malaysia, East London, San Diego, and Falls Church, Virginia.

“Now it all makes sense,” proclaimed ABC News President David Westin. “Why else would he insist on doing the interview before the end of the year when we asked him to come in after the end of his term — pretty sharp on his part. It also explains why he would go out of his way to solidify Joe Biden’s claim to the title of “The Tight-Lipped Vice President.”

The subject of torture has been a divisive one even within the Administration. Proponents say it’s not only a productive means of extracting valuable information quickly, but when done correctly can be a fun and humorous way to relieve tension. Experts, on the other hand, claim that information received through torture is often unreliable; going so far as to suggest that people might actually lie to avoid having live electrical wires attached to their genitals.

One example which continues to stir-up controversy is the interrogation and subsequent confession of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed. ‘KSM’ was discussed specifically in the interview, with Cheney saying he found water-boarding to be appropriate in his case, and claiming, “There was a period of time there, three or four years ago, when about half of everything we knew about al Qaeda came from that one source… So, it’s been a remarkably successful effort. I think the results speak for themselves.”

An anonymous NSA analyst, when reached for comment, responded only by asking, “What results? No more attacks here YET?”

Opponents of torture, however, question the veracity of KSM’s confession, the rambling 27-page document in which the alleged ‘9/11 mastermind’ boasted of his responsibility for a broad range of anti-West terrorist acts. Among the crimes to which al Qaeda’s ‘#2′ confessed were both World Trade Center attacks, the bombing of the USS Cole, the abduction and murder of Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl, the disappearance of Jimmy Hoffa, the baseball bouncing through Bill Buckner’s legs in the 1986 World Series, and urinating in the reflecting pool between the Capitol building and Washington Monument.

Human rights groups felt some degree of solace, however, when Cheney said that “at no time were detainees forced to watch any post 1985 episodes of Saturday Night Live.” The Vice President added, “We are a civilized nation. You have to draw the line somewhere.”

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balantz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-08 12:00 PM
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7. If the Obama administration doesn't prosecute the war criminals
it will once again prove to me that we live in a nation with a fascist government.

If it isn't done we should seriously question where are the checks and balances that uphold the will of the people?
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Phred42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-08 12:40 PM
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8. It IS the only possible path back
If there are no prosecutions and serious jail time (at least) THIS time - we will never be able to pretend that we have a Democracy again - ever. It's over.
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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-08 01:52 PM
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10. it will never happen, nor should it
Dean is wrong (just as he was when he said Obama was hiding something re: Blagojevich and should come clean)

The most treasonous act in our history was the secession of the south which led to the civil war when over 600,000 died. You might think what Bush did was worse but I don't.

In Lincoln's second inaugural address he talked about what should be done to the south once the war was over. It is this speech that is carved on the walls of his memorial in DC and is arguably why we see him as our greatest president.

"One eighth of the whole population were colored slaves, not distributed generally over the Union, but localized in the Southern part of it. These slaves constituted a peculiar and powerful interest. All knew that this interest was, somehow, the cause of the war. To strengthen, perpetuate, and extend this interest was the object for which the insurgents would rend the Union, even by war; while the government claimed no right to do more than to restrict the territorial enlargement of it. Neither party expected for the war, the magnitude, or the duration, which it has already attained. Neither anticipated that the cause of the conflict might cease with, or even before, the conflict itself should cease. Each looked for an easier triumph, and a result less fundamental and astounding. Both read the same Bible, and pray to the same God; and each invokes His aid against the other. It may seem strange that any men should dare to ask a just God's assistance in wringing their bread from the sweat of other men's faces; but let us judge not that we be not judged. The prayers of both could not be answered; that of neither has been answered fully. The Almighty has his own purposes. "Woe unto the world because of offences! for it must needs be that offences come; but woe to that man by whom the offence cometh!" If we shall suppose that American Slavery is one of those offences which, in the providence of God, must needs come, but which, having continued through His appointed time, He now wills to remove, and that He gives to both North and South, this terrible war, as the woe due to those by whom the offence came, shall we discern therein any departure from those divine attributes which the believers in a Living God always ascribe to Him? Fondly do we hope--fervently do we pray--that this mighty scourge of war may speedily pass away. Yet, if God wills that it continue, until all the wealth piled by the bond-man's two hundred and fifty years of unrequited toil shall be sunk, and until every drop of blood drawn with the lash, shall be paid by another drawn with the sword, as was said three thousand years ago, so still it must be said "the judgments of the Lord, are true and righteous altogether"

With malice toward none; with charity for all; with firmness in the right, as God gives us to see the right, let us strive on to finish the work we are in; to bind up the nation's wounds; to care for him who shall have borne the battle, and for his widow, and his orphan--to do all which may achieve and cherish a just and lasting peace, among ourselves, and with all nations.

http://showcase.netins.net/web/creative/lincoln/speeches/inaug2.htm
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balantz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-08 02:08 PM
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11. That was then,
Edited on Sun Dec-21-08 02:08 PM by balantz
this is now.

And it's not just the South and North of the United States, it's the entire world that needs justice, and needs to stop the criminal activity and negligence.

Let's make sure the criminals are stopped.
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Phred42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-08 02:30 PM
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12. Absurd - they MUST be prosecuted - and depending on the outcome - jailed or hung
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Just-plain-Kathy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-08 12:53 PM
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9. Prosecute Bush/Cheney and investigate Nancy Pelosi!!!!!
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Phred42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-08 02:30 PM
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13. Yep - that too
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