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The Sushi Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 08:38 PM
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DNC Convention Protests - Pepsi Center - Swat Team, Denver
 
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cyndensco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 08:50 PM
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1. So will they be doing this in Minneapolis next week?
It seems that is where there beef should be. :shrug:
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iamthebandfanman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 09:21 PM
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2. yeah really
but dont ask them to be logical, rational, or reasonable in their hatred and anger.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 09:24 PM
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4. "hatred and anger"... yeah, they should behave like good tools
yuh... okeedokee
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iamthebandfanman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-08 07:55 AM
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12. just stating their emotions are running high
and probably getting the best of them...
in which case you cant really expect people to act rationally or logically...

ive often wondered why people protest the DNC convention but little is made of the small protests at RNC ones...
maybe they just think they have a better chance of being heard at ours... i dunno... but to come to the our convention with topics that we support versus protesting the people whove done all these horrible things and put us in the position we are in ... just frankly makes no damn sense.

i cant help that.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 09:22 PM
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3. Their Duty is America first ... political party will take a back seat
since they won't lead. People make this push... always have. It's part of our democratic right as citizens to do this, whether you feel it it is politically inconvenient or not.
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barack the house Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 10:35 PM
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9. They certainly have their right but the fact that they threatened riots prior I don't condone,myself
Edited on Sun Aug-24-08 10:43 PM by barack the house
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ikat381 Donating Member (20 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 10:39 PM
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10. Naomi Klein agrees with you facisthunter
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iamthebandfanman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-08 09:47 AM
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15. ego first!
goals and accomplishments second!


thats all i see....
instead of working with others to accomplish a common goal, some 'progressives' go on a righteous crusade for all or nothing and slam those who wish to be allied with us because they arent enough like them. this is the same egotistical behavior of the once great Ralph Nader who became so self involved in his own indignation that he forgot in this country it takes CO-OP and compromise to get things done.
this 'our way or the highway' mentality that some 'progressives' have is very much self defeating and really does nothing for the movement or the average american person suffering under the current fascist regime.
its sad that peoples egos even seek to divide the grandest of ideals of people empowerment and workers rights.

will humans ever get over themselves for the greater good?
i doubt it if even us lefties cant do it.
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ikat381 Donating Member (20 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-08 05:18 PM
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17. you can't have a democracy by getting out of your leaders' way
It's not a matter of "all or nothing," but rather of putting enough pressure on your representatives to make sure the general population can affect policy. When we find out that the weapons industry has given more money to the Democrats than they have to the Republicans for this election cycle, this sort of pressure becomes important.
(see "Players, Not Cheerleaders" at http://www.zmag.org/znet/viewArticle/16982 )

I can understand why people would disagree with certain kinds of disobedience, but I'm getting this impression that some people resent any kind of protest whatsoever at the convention. If that is true, I think it's a mistake.
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The Sushi Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-08 06:55 PM
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18. Well said!
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cyndensco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-08 09:35 AM
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13. I did not say they had no right to protest.
God knows, I would not be where I am today if others had just sat back and did nothing. I do think many of their issues have been caused by the republicans - particularly this war - and just hope they spread the wealth.
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iamthebandfanman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-08 09:39 AM
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14. the thing is, its not just incovenient
they are only hurting their own causes by doing it.

its self destructive and very much self defeating.
it doesnt take a scientist or psychologist to see that.

there is such a thing as dumb political activism... IE activism that causes more harm than its goal...
sometimes , especially nowadays, dissent and or revolution needs to be a smart planned out thing... not a group of people with varying ideals with no central msg attempting to destroy and disrupt...
you get nobody listening to you and you get no respect.

thats just the simple fact.

sure, they have a right to do it...
but nobody has to think its smart or intelligent.

just a bunch of people with emotions running high in a country that goes to shit more and more everyday...
but what they are doing wont solve their various issues, nor will it bring any crediability to it either.
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barack the house Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 10:33 PM
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8. Exactly, very good point.
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 10:21 PM
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5. Who needs republican hacks...
...when we have these people doing it for them.
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stlsaxman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 10:32 PM
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7. oh- these ARE Republican hacks... dressed up like hippes. n/t
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iamthebandfanman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-08 09:49 AM
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16. really ?
i tend to think its a bunch of people who have no idea who they REALLY are or what they believe in... they just liked to be labled rebels, anarchist, and revolutionaries...

the whole ideal of anarchists organising themselves should speak volumes of their understanding.
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barack the house Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 10:31 PM
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6. This is shocking., kinda creepy as well. They didn't need the camps till they knew they planned to->
Edited on Sun Aug-24-08 10:32 PM by barack the house
start riots. I don't support their message at all this occasion.
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Hulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-08 12:10 AM
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11. This has got potential to get real ugly.
I was relieved when I saw the policemen WITH the crowd, identified by their service "POLICE" on their shirts.

I was very concerned when I saw the battle ready police who looked more like goons than servants of the public.

It would take just one idiot to incite this demonstation into a bloody mess.
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