Face The Nation: Reed & Hagel Slam McCain's Desperate Tactics

[Hissyspit]

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CBS Face The Nation - July 27, 2008.

[MiniMe]

1. Rec'd

I wonder who Hagel will be voting for? I disagree totally with Hagel on social issues, but he is right on about those ads and the war.

[CaptParagon]

16. scary scary man

John McCain has proven himself a true POS. He may have served his country in uniform and was a POW many years ago but he has let his lust for power overshadow everything that is good and just. He has succumbed to the dark side and become a Sith Lord. Darth McNasty is a scary man but what scares me more is the possibility that once again ignorance and fear will rule the day and this POS will become President.

[pipi_k]

23. You said what I was thinking

He's scary.

And there are still loads of very scary people running around in this country with a penchant for voting for people as scary as they are.

I know of at least one out in the midwest who admits that she doesn't know a whole lot about what's going on in the political arena, but never fails to back up McCain whenever she sees him being criticized.

She's a Fox "News" groupie and watches Sean Hannity and Rush Limberger...calls them "entertaining", yet quotes them constantly and is always surprised when someone points out FACTS that those two (in particular) aren't even mentioning. She is constantly embarrassed for not knowing about FACTS, and you would think at some point she would learn and start expanding her viewing horizons a bit....

nope.

So I see this and I mentally multiply by a few million and the numbers of really ignorant people is too frightening for me to think about.


So basically John McCain is a fuckup, but History shows that a whole lot of Americans actually like fuckups. Maybe they see fuckups as the "underdog" and feel sorry for them....

:banghead:

[Grinchie]

28. Actually, it's a repeat of Ford, Reagan, Quayle, and *

The Republicans learned how easy it was to have a "Masthead" that had very little independent thought and knowledge. Over the years, they learned it was much easier to work in the shadows while the masthead took the heat.

The final test was GHWB, who actually had to put his foot down regarding Iraq in the first Gulf war. This infuriated the Neocons to no end, and it took them 8 long years to get back into power.

In 2000, they installed Junior, who is as indolent and inneffective as a dead squirrel when it comes to policy, but everyone "Wants to have a beer with him".

Meanwhile, the Neocons dismantle the country.

McCain is another, part insane, part alzheimers, one foot in the grave Masthead, ready to sit back and be shuttled from photo op to photo op, while the crew starts covering their tracks, starting wars, destroying more bits of the Constitution.

I am really looking forward to seeing what his VP choice is. However, I think the Repugs know that there is no way in hell that McCain can possibly win, so they will just throw in a token VP candidate and concede the election. I don't think any self respecting shark like Cheney would be caught dead being associated with a loser like McCain after the trauma Shrub and Cheney have put the country through for the last 8 long, neverending, painful years.

At this point, the repugs have McCain as the sacrificial dolt, while they crash the economy beyond belief, and hamstring Obama for the next four years while he is forced to clean up their mess.

[Leo 9]

30. They might be hoping to run things out of the V.P.'s office, as under President Cheney.

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[opihimoimoi]

2. One is leading the orchestra and the other makes noise...OMG..whatcha gonna do?

[TwilightGardener]

3. Marty Crane (Frasier's Dad). Sorry, that's who he reminds me of.

[Grateful for Hope]

4. I missed this

Excellent points by both Reed and Hagel. Thanks for posting this.

[Muttocracy]

5. excellent. nt

[Windy]

6. Good for Hagel and Reed! n/t

[Virginia Dare]

7. I wanna have Chuck Hagel's baby....n/t

[Jackpine Radical]

9. If you do, you'll have to drown it at some point.

Have mine instead.

[Kahuna]

12. He is a hottie, isn't he?

:smoke:

[Postman]

8. Scheiffer is not doing his job.

Why didn't he go down the road that Hagel pointed him to? That the next President is going to be handed the biggest flaming bag of shit since FDR? And why it is and how that came about?

No. He goes into the dueling ads stories that only people like him give shit about.

[Virginia Dare]

10. Scheiffer is a good buddy of the shrubs..

so that probably plays a part it in.

[Diane R]

17. You bet he is. He threw Jr. two softball 'Christian' questions at the end of debate #3.

I'm convinced those questions were designed to bring home the Evangelical base, in spite of GWB's horrible debate performance. I knew right then that Scheiffer was doing a favor for the Bush family.

[DailyGrind51]

19. Scheiffer is way too inflexible, forgetting that once the interviewee

starts down an interesting road, a sharp interviewer just needs to provide the fuel, sit back, and enjoy the ride.

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

11. Karen Tumulty takes this up in her blog at Time Magazine...

And does a fine job of cutting through the bullshit.

[glarius]

13. I suspect before this is all over that Hagel will end up disowning (if that's the right word) McCain

As McCain falls further and further behind in the polls he will get more and more desperate and his meanness will be come more pronounced. IMO

[Ellipsis]

14. K&R

[AlbertCat]

15. "I don't know the facts...

....I only know what I've read"

Thanks for clearing that up....that if all you do is read the news, you aren't getting the facts.

And thanks for presenting some facts:

By that time, the trip WAS political and it was the right thing for Obama to do.

[geckosfeet]

18. And where are the rest of the dem congress critters and senaters?

Why aren't they making more noise?

[Hope And Change]

20. Kudos to Hagel and Reed.Especially to Hagel.

[jimlup]

21. Republican slime

Man, those people are lying bastards. Seeing the ad made me fighting mad at McSame. What a bunch of total slime those folks are.

[Zambero]

22. Swift Boating tactics re-emerge

Then: "Senator Kerry did not earn those medals. He is a traitor"

Now: "Senator Obama did not bother to visit our wounded troops. He's just a politician"

Look for this type of mantra to be repeated over and over. The GOP is desperate and will stop at nothing. The old adage of patriotism being a scoundrel's last refuge has never been truer.

[kmac3]

24. You won my total respect . . .

Hats off Sen. Hagel . . . :yourock:
I find it absolutely refreshing to hear someone speak with intelligence and rationale despite it meaning crossing Party lines. More times than not, despicable comments are backed by fellow partisans.

[SusanaMontana41]

31. It is refreshing, isn't it?

That's exactly the reason he's in trouble in my home state. You should read some of the LTTE (and the posted responses to them) in the Lincoln newspaper. Sad to say it, but my homies appear to prefer the Cheney wing of the GOP.

(On the flip side, my dad, a Reagan Democrat, is voting for Obama. And Mom is a former Republican who proudly sports an OBAMA '08 sticker on the family van.)

[Cybergata]

25. Excellent Video

Thanks for posting.

[JohnWxy]

26. It is refreshing and a bit consoling to the soul to see that there are one or two Republicans who

DO have a sense of right and wrong. McCain has given into his handlers and is going the typical Republican route of the declaring the moral and patriotic inferiority of your opponent. They've obviously won over McCain on the idea of trying to sell the bull that the so-called surge (70,000 -100,000 troops would have been a surge. THis was a squirt) produced the decline in violence in Iraq - Ignoring the fact that the Iraqi's got fed up with Al Qaeda and started giving us good intellence against the Al Qaeda and that the Shiite militias stood down. Without these huge factors nothing would have changed with just the addition of 20,000 or so extended-duty troops to the mix (even though our troops have been doing a tremendous, courageous job, they couldn't have got this result by themselves).

But MCain is going the typical Republican campaign route: sell the big lie and accuse the opponent of not being "tough enough" (that is, open to other approaches than the JOhn Wayne movie script approach to handling foreign affairs issues) or lack of patriotism.

Sickening. Infuriating, too.

[bdamomma]

27. that commercial is terrible

John McCain does not support the troops he did not sign that GI Bill that Jim Webb put through.

[Inuca]

33. Actually that was the Webb/Hagel bill

they tend to work together on military-related issues.

[xxqqqzme]

29. With respect to this horrible ad,

why is it not one person mentions mcloser just voted against Webb's GI bill?

[Inuca]

32. He did not vote against it

he opposed it and then he just did not bother to vote at all