John McCain vs. John McCain

[dipsydoodle]

Run time: 02:50 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioy90nF2anI   Posted on YouTube: January 27, 2007 By YouTube Member: bravenewfilms Views on YouTube: 1586597   Posted on DU: January 29, 2007 By DU Member: dipsydoodle Views on DU: 7612

 
Courtesy of Robert Greenwald.

More on the subject at this link : http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-internet29jan29,0,4114166.story

[catgirl]

1. Check out Brave New Films web site... link below

http://TheRealMcCain.com/

[dipsydoodle]

2. Thanks for adding that too

I'd meant to do that when I posted the video but then got lost watching another one - go figure !

[twylatharp]

3. I actually sort of liked him a long time ago

I think there's a decent (but misguided) guy under there somewhere (unlike like George W where there isn't any decency even deep down), but he just gave in to politics and has no convictions that he has held onto

[lumpy]

4. He is an out and out liar who will say anything and

do anything to stay in the political limelight. Typical kiss ass, kick ass, bullshittin' pissante.

[Sweet Freedom]

25. I thought that too,

but after watching this, I get the sense he truly has no idea what he believes.

[wholetruth]

49. don't let Mythical Maverick get you with his goofy charm

He is very clear on his beliefs ... a total neocon , warmonger and lackie of the military industrial complex and war "think tanks". He has war-lust. McCain is just wishy-washy about everything else because he doesn't care about anything else, its all politics with him. That's why he's called the Mythical Maverick.

[Turn CO Blue]

5. 5th from me

I was just going to post this...

[Greyskye]

6. K & R for the "Double Talk Express"!

And to think that years ago I had some respect for the man. :puke:

[Lasher]

9. Live and learn, Greyskye

A long time back I thought he was pretty decent too. Now I know better.

Good video clip. How inconvenient for liars these days to have such technology available to us.

[BearSquirrel2]

46. If Kerry was a double talker ...

Well, they called Kerry a double talker, in actuality he was just so long winded that he seemed perpetually ambiguous. But if Kerry is a double talker, than McCain is an octuple-talker.

Some time in the next 6 months, they'll have to do surgery to remove McCains lips for Dubaya's ass.

[Tuesday_Morning]

7. Good video to send to those

"moderate" folks who are liable to fall for that "maverick" crap and vote for him.

[Quixote1818]

11. Yep, everyone needs to keep that bookmarked for later! nt

[NewJeffCT]

17. My Dad already dislikes McCain - used to like him

He generally tends to vote for Democrats, but is fairly moderate... said this past weekend how he used to think McCain was pretty good, but couldn't stand him lately.

[speedoo]

8. What a terrible candidate.

Horrible excuse for a man, too. But more importantly, how on earth could this dude ever be elected President?

Oh wait..... look who's in the WH now. :puke:

Seriously, I hope the rethugs nominate this turkey. He's a walking disaster.

[Quixote1818]

10. The Republican Party has made it impossible for McCain to be McCain

if he wants to get the nomination. It's clear he is just out of his element now because he is being someone he is not. He looks uncomfortable and weak now. He looked strong and sincere in the earlier clips.

[cboy4]

12. I should be shot for actually having respect for the guy at one point.

What a horrible, lying flip-flopper.

Lets hope the Democrats use ads like this against him to help paint a picture of the true John McCain.

[Kurovski]

13. K&R.

It's actually sad.

[snowbear]

14. WOW ..... Everyone needs to watch that video !!!!

Looks like whoever our nominee is has their first commercial already cut and ready to go!!

[The Wizard]

18. As long as

our candidate is willing to call a spade a spade. Kerry's campaign wouldn't attack when Bush was on the ropes. Maybe it was a Skull and Bones thing.
Let's see if Bushigula names him VP after the pathological liar, dick head Cheney, steps down to "spend more time with his family."

[hezekkia]

40. unforunately

a similar video might be made about a certain one of our Democratic frontrunners. Read some of the quotes from 2001... she was one of the biggest cheerleaders of this war.

I don't expect a leader to be perfect, but the shifting with the political winds is not exactly leadership.

"Every nation has to either be with us, or against us. Those who harbor terrorists, or who finance them, are going to pay a price." Guess who said that? Hint: not George Bush.

[Divine Discontent]

15. 15th K&R

Glad to do it, this should be called the unraveling of McCain! LOL

what an embarrassing video for him. the KING of double talk!



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[ClintonTyree]

16. OMG, what a maverick!

:eyes: Just another politician that talks out of both sides of his mouth....at once. McCain will do anything, kiss ANYBODY'S ass, including Bush and the religiously insane, to get elected.

MAVERICK MY ASS! :grr:

[Catfight]

19. I was never for McCain before I was against him. nt

[blondeatlast]

21. Me too, but I refuse allow you to kiss my non-existent bald spot

or to hug me like a maniac. :rofl:





Sorry if I spoiled breakfast, btw...

[brg5001]

26. That didn't ruin breakfast! I've got my Stephanie Miller sonic shield on

Upon seeing this sickening image, I immediately turned up Stephanie Miller (on AM 940 in South Florida.) I feel so much better. Your Bush Ass-Licking images are now POWERLESS against me! Post another one, please.... I won't flinch.

[porkrind]

20. What a shameless political whore

Thanks for the link. Jeez, McCain doesn't really stand for anything except John McCain. Triangulating doubletalker.

[blondeatlast]

22. He's risen way beyond his Peter Principle He's been my Senator his

entire political life--I remember the Keating Five and can easily name every one of them, movers and shakers all.

You can say one thing about GWB, he has convictions, be they his or his NeoCon masters. A leader needs some resolve. McCain hasn't got an ounce of it.

How the HELL can John Mccain be president with no discernible spine whatsoever?

[blondeatlast]

23. A brief history of the savings and loan scandal, don't let it die:

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/pot281.shtml

Note this quote, made about the same time the GWB camp was viciously attacking his family:
McCain still describes the Keating probe as "a nightmare." He says that period was one of the most painful of his life "because my integrity and honor were under attack." McCain also said, "The thing I learned was that it's not only impropriety that counts; it's the appearance that is just as important."


The man considers his political career more important than defending his family from political venom. He hasn't the leadership to be president.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

27. appearances of impropriety are as important as the crime itself

I had forgotten his fuelish statement, but in the back of my mind, I knew he said some really incredible things when caught.

[sandyj999]

24. Flip-Flop??

According to some I thought John Kerry was the only one that was guilty of that. ;) I voted for McCain in the Michigan primary when he ran against Bush as the lesser of two evils. But over the years I have formed a great dislike for the man. Not as much as Bush of course, but he someone I can't stand to look at just like Bush. He just irritates the hell out of me!

[wjmj]

It breaks my heart

Run time: 02:50 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioy90nF2anI   Posted on YouTube: January 27, 2007 By YouTube Member: bravenewfilms Views on YouTube: 1586597   Posted on DU: January 30, 2007 By DU Member: wjmj Views on DU: 7612

 
that to this day the Viet Nam veteran lives in a fish bowl. As one, USMC '69, I've grown older under a veil of having never been there, having never volunteered to serve my country and, for having done so, suffered the big lie, "dolce et decorum est/pro patria mori." Whereas the WWI veteran, including (among many in my NC/ALA family) my father, US Army third wave D-Day and My Uncle USMC, second wave Iwo Jima, rightly enjoy the respect of a grateful nation, I, Mu Gai Pass and the Rock Pile, feel no such respect to this day. John McCain has deteriorated into a fool not because of his politics, he's probably never truly understood the terms but, as the father of a respected Navy admiral and a patriot, and like me given unto the big lie that in our war was a devilish lie (as it is now). Viet Nam veterans have been and are now easily crushed by that time honored practice of rush to judgment by those who never served. I feel for John even as I lament his quixotic turn from the moral values that caused him to refuse release from the Hanoi Hilton because of his father's stature, to endure then five more years of torture. John McCain is even now tortured, mentally tortured by politics as damnable and riddled with lies as was his physical torture 40 years ago. I suffer far less than he, but I suffer the same stigma of my nation, our nation we volunteered to defend, that so easily andsurely turned and continues to turn its collective back on it defenders. And I don't refer to its citizens, I refer to its politicians and talking heads whose avarice and idiosyncratic view of the world allow them to blithely reduce men and women of honor into hapless failures. John Kerry, Max Cleland and so many others have had the respect they're due reduced to insignificance, even ridicule, by war wimps and liars like Cheney, Coulter and Hannity who do so for purely insidious reasons the least of which is the patriotism of their convictions.

Please don't condemn John, nor pity him. Thank him for his distinguished, brave, selfless service to our crumbling country as someone who believed in its impeccable tenets. Visit the Tomb of the Unknown Revolutionary Soldier in Philadelphia, our first and surest patriot, and ask yourself over his grace what you think of today's veterans, those made and in the making.

[Ladyhawk]

29. John McCain put HIMSELF in that fishbowl.

I'm very sorry about what happened to him in Vietnam. I've read multiple books about the Hanoi Hilton, so I at least know (in an intellectual way) what happened to him. I will never truly understand what happened to him on an emotional level.

Still, this video proves conclusively he doesn't belong in politics. The reason for his inability to take a stand doesn't matter when it comes to fitness to serve.

[wjmj]

36. Did I ever say he belongs in politics?

I don't think so. In fact, I'm pret-ty sure I said he probably hasn't a clue what it is. As to him putting himself in that fishbowl, I'm pre-ty sure I haven't a clue what you mean by that, especially so in my having said ALL Viet Nam veterans have been living in a fish bowl because of the nasty attitude of war wimps and intellectual feel-gooders who's opinions of war seem to matter more than those who've experienced war. You don't know a thing about what that man xperienced, and to opine that you do stinks to high heaven. Don't vote for him, I never have. And don't like him, and don't care about him, whatever, but do you have to dinegrate him? It seems to me that you have to, and in so doing, to me, you're the lesser human being.

[Ladyhawk]

41. You're the one the attitude problem.

And you don't have any clue what I've been through in my life. Of course I'm not going to tell you, but I will tell you this. I don't belong in politics.

Personally, I think you're just trolling.

You sort of broke the rules by ad hominem attacks.

[Arugula Latte]

47. Being in Viet Nam doesn't give a politician immunity.

He chose to get into the public arena, and he is staking out positions that hurt real people. That is politics; it is fair game to show people a candidate's hypocrisy. It's not denigration.

[KG]

30. if he's that fucked-up a person, maybe he should find another line of work

other than trying to foist his fucked-upness on this country by being a politician.

[blondeatlast]

34. Word. nt

[wjmj]

38. Brilliant comment. We need more like you to replace him.

With your keen insight and penetrating wit, i'm sure the cure for all the world's evils rests just a breath away from your being put into power. Did you even read my post? Have you nothing but disgust to lay upon a troubled world? Nothing but venom to spit that, if you don't, it will poison you? You, in you're darling way, sound so UN-FUCKED-UP I'm amazed at the world being so horribly wrong with you in it.

[KG]

42. how about this next brilliant comment, bro:

go jump in a lake.

[blondeatlast]

33. McCain has been my senator his entire political career and it terrifies me

(yes, TERRIFIES) to imagine him in the Oval Office in the event of another 9/11 or Pearl Harbor.

When I have called his office regarding upcoming Senate votes, I get wishy-washy statements from his staffers regarding how we will vote. If he doesn't support a bill, I'd rather he just say it. Not so, unfortunately. He gauges his response based on his audience. There's no courage of conviction in that.

I may despise GWB, but I'll give him this--he has convictions even though he is so horribly wrong in them.

Yes, McCain was an incredibly brave war hero--and he never lets us forget it. It's so incredibly sad that he's forgotten it himself. He's a political whore who seems to have learned nothing from his war experience. I was traised by a WW2 vet and have known many, many vets all of whom have learned a sustaining lesson about courage from their experiences.

Not John McCain. He's a sad, scary man and he should refuse to run if he truly loves the country he once proudly served.

[IWantAChange]

28. McCain has taken up permanent residence in Repug BizzaroWorld.

That place where perception and posturing are far more important than truth or facts.

[redqueen]

31. My goodness...

he was nearly stuttering at the end there.

Convictions? Principle? Where are they?

I don't see how *anyone* could support him for office.

[blondeatlast]

32. My sad Senator has no convictions nor has he courage.

That makes for a horrible leader. As bad as this administration nis, I am horrified to think how McCain would respond to a threat even on our own soil. There is simply no spine there whatsoever. It's truly terrifying to think of him in the Oval Office.

Terrifying. Think of him in the event of another Pearl Harbor or 9/11 attack, without enough time to properly gauge his audience. He scares me even more than GWB, he really does.

Please, America, anybody but McCain.

[Tekla West]

35. Waste of time

don't worry about him, he has as much of a chance of getting the nomination as any of us do.

[WatchWhatISay]

37. Hats off to Mr. Greenwald EXCEPT I take exception to the music

It parlays a respect that John McCain no longer deserves (though once he did).

But otherwise, this is VERY POWERFUL stuff.

[ntesla]

39. McCain, you are the weakest link

Goodbye.

[liberal1973]

43. Two-faced McCain Two-faced McCain -nt

[cjmastaw]

44. Get ready for prez. McCain

Cuz bush is gonna get rid of cheney, pardon him and replace him with McCain so that when the impeachment hearings are over, there is someone to pardon him. Cuz he's goin down... for TREASON... I love Randi Rodes

[EdwardM]

45. Please win the primaries McCain!!!

[shoopnyc]

48. Brilliant!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!