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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 01:34 AM
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North America's Pacific Coast DYING
 
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Seas off West Coast very acidic, study warns
Expert: Warming threat to sea life wasn't expected for at least 50 years

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24797061/

Waters along North America's Pacific coast are becoming more acidic, posing a threat to marine life, federal scientists reported Friday — adding that while that fits global warming scenarios, no one had expected the acidification to happen so soon.

"We did not expect to see this extent of ocean acidification until the middle to the end of the century," said study co-author Chris Sabine.

"Our results show for the first time that a large section of the North American continental shelf is impacted by ocean acidification," the experts wrote in the study published in the peer-reviewed journal Science.
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Its Official living on the West Coast is going to have a totally different view
The Pacific Ocean on the whole West Coast from Mexico to Canada is dying from acidification
at such high levels never thought would happen in 50 years and they are occurring NOW

and you all wonder why Bush is panicing and going to start the Marine preserve
problem is there won't be marine life to preserve

His Legacy will be the President who killed the Pacific Ocean in 8 years
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 01:48 AM
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1. I'm a firm believer that the MSM
will not address these major problems ENOUGH until it is too late - we have to keep pressing our Democratic candidates to take action. I know there are experts out there that will supply them with the info they need to hear, but they also need to hear us - and the next time I see Sen. Obama I will only say "protect our air, water, and help stop the massive destruction of our seas - they are dying - look at the evidence" in so many words.
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rawtribe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 01:55 AM
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2. The tide pools
I explored as a child on the cost of California are all gone. So I understand your point.

Unfortunately the video you linked to does not represent the marine life off the west coast of the U.S.

http://www.coldwaterimages.com/

Having spent many hours diving Monterey Bay. I'm kind of hypersensitive to misrepresentation of my underwater home.

:hi:


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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 09:51 AM
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5. I was just wondering do you think the Pacific is dying?
is your underwater dying???
Soon you dive you will only see death
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rawtribe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 10:57 AM
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7. I haven't been
in that area in 20 years so I can't answer first hand.

The area is well protected. It may be stressed but not dying.

http://montereybay.noaa.gov/


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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 01:03 PM
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11. You Know stress is a killer Salmon fishing has been banned
along the West Coast for the first time in 160 years

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/05/02/BABT10F7PE.DTL&tsp=1

Sadly I think the Ocean you saw 20 years ago is on its last gasp of oxygen

literally

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/08/060804-dead-zone.html

A "dead zone" of low-oxygen water has been appearing along the Oregon coast each summer since 2002, suffocating crabs and other creatures that can't swim or scuttle away.

This year the zone is stretching longer and thicker than it ever has before, possibly reaching into the waters off Washington State.

Scientists taking oxygen samples photo



"This is the first year we've seen the dead zone expand," said Jane Lubchenco, a marine biologist at Oregon State University in Corvallis.

This year's zone blankets approximately 70 miles (113 kilometers) of the central Oregon coast and may extend another 170 miles (274 kilometers) into Washington waters (map of Oregon).

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Whats fascinating is why the West Coast and not the East Coast???
Any ideas
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SlicerDicer- Donating Member (311 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 11:11 PM
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12. Read about the vents discovered there.
It was huge news in Seattle for a while when they discovered underwater volcanoes after earthquakes and such. It is right in the area you are talking about there is correlation for sure.
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SaveOurSovereignty Donating Member (103 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 04:00 AM
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3. ice age?
Edited on Sat May-24-08 04:02 AM by SaveOurSovereignty
So who invoked the ice age?


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rawtribe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 11:06 AM
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8. Links:
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Delphinus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 08:23 AM
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4. The video's last words were:
Edited on Sat May-24-08 08:30 AM by Delphinus
"The Oceans Are Dying". The story doesn't say that. I wonder why - it does seem to be the truth from what they are saying within the story.

Speaking of the ocean, I heard on NPR yesterday that the boy king wanted to name an atoll a natural preserve - so his legacy would be good. Wish I could remember more of what they were talking about but it was at a time I couldn't concentrate well.

Edit to add here's the story on LBN: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x3323399
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 09:55 AM
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6. I think its so Ironic that the Man who killed the Ocean wants to
save it now

Thats what he wants to do is deflect reality

When people on the West Coast realize that the Ocean is dying QUICKLY they are going to be so ticked off

Living near a Dead Zone ain't going to be pretty

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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 11:09 AM
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9. The thinking is Bush wants to name coastal areas a Preserve
to bring it under Federal control so he-they will have power to drill for oil.
Which, I think, Cal. stopped them from doing awhile back, and oil Co. are still pissed.
So to Bush, dead or alive marine life has nothing to do with "preserving"
the coastal waters for future drilling.
They have expanded coastal drilling down here in the Gulf of Mexico, miles of oil rigs 10 miles and more out from the land.
Vast marine die off also here. partly due to massive pollution from oil.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 12:48 PM
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10. I think your right dixiegrrrl
yep
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