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Vyan Donating Member (990 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 03:24 AM
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On Olbermann, Cold-Blooded Killers and Bald-Faced Liars
 
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That incredible font of Patriotism Laura Ingraham has apparently responded to Keith Olbermann's taunt - "Why do you hate our troops" with the preceding video.

Her claim here, using the site "Olbermannwatch" as her source is that Keith is a liar, and that he really did mean to insult our U.S. troops when he mentioned "Cold=Blooded Killers" in the Iraq War and wasn't simply throwing Bush's ridiculous rhetoric at the Knesset right back at him in reference to BlackWater.

As it was delibered Keith's Special Comment said this starting from the relevant quoting from Bush's speech:

"The biggest issue we face is, it's bigger than Iraq, it's this ideological struggle against cold-blooded killers who will kill people to achieve their political objectives.'

Mr. Bush, at long last, has it not dawned on you that the America you have now created, includes 'cold-blooded killers who will kill people to achieve their political objectives'?

They are those in, or formerly in, your employ, who may yet be charged some day... with war crimes.

Let's just reinterate that Olbermann was Quoting the President in that statement, and clearly was turning that comment around to point at people who may, very well may, have committed WAR CRIMES!

Who might those people be?

Who are the War Criminals?

Might they be the members of Bush's Cabinet who conducted meeting after meeting discussing torture methods in violation of the Geneva Conventions and the War Crimes Act?

Might they be members of Blackwater USA who have been granted immunity and impunity to murder civilians in Iraq?

Ignoring the War Criminals, the wingnut fringe instead attacked him for daring to use the Presidents word against American Troops. In response to this Keith issued a Clarification

Television goes by quickly and the viewers are not provided a copy of the script. So it is possible that reasonable viewers might have been confused by exactly to whom I referred, especially considering that I edited the original line, which was: "Mr. Bush, at long last, has it not dawned on you that the America you have now created includes cold-blooded killers who will kill people to achieve their political objectives? They are called your cabinet and your Pentagon."

During the editing process, it seemed that was a little broad, that there appear to be men in both of those places, General Ricardo Sanchez, former Secretary of State Colin Powell, perhaps even the new Secretary of Defense Mr. Gates, who did not merit inclusion in that list. Obviously, my use of Mr. Bushs phrase, cold-blooded killers, did not refer to U.S. troops. I have never had anything but the highest respect for them and their sacrifice.

The difference here? Once sentence, specifying the cabinet and pentagon as the "killers" was removed. Instead he said "They are those in, or formerly in, your employ, who may yet be charged some day... with war crimes."

That's changing a single sentence, that's all. In neither version of this were our troops called out. In neither version were our troops insulted.

He changed it because he didn't think it was fair to make a statement that would have included current Secretary of Defense Robert Gates, former Secretary of State Colin Powell (who openly and frequently objected to the use of torture) and General Ricardo Sanchez who has also vehemently criticized such crimes.

Sanchez was the former Commander of Forces in Iraq, so if he deliberately excluded Sanchez he was most certainly excluding all of the soldiers in Iraq and Afghanitan who had NOT COMMITTED WAR CRIMES.

One might go so far as to assume that he was also alluding to War Crimes and cover-ups such as in Haditha. Or Moumadiya. Or Crimes such as the killing Pat Tillman and subsequent cover-up and destruction evidence in that case.

But only a completely assclown or moron would think Keith meant "All Of Our Troops Are War Criminals!"

Yet this is exacty what Olbermannwatch claims.

After he came under fire for his Special Comment on May 14 in which called U.S. Troops "cold blooded killers", Keith Olbermann delivered a "clarification" in which he claimed that he had edited out the part in which he called White House and Pentagon officials "cold blooded killers". One problem, the day the Special Comment aired Keith was on Daily Kos comparing himself to Mozart for having produced his "masterpiece" in "one write". In other words...WITHOUT EDITING.

This is what Olbermann actually said in a comment within his May 14th Diary.

Strunk & White (25+ / 0-)
Funny thing about these.

When I first write 'em, they are half as long.

Then I'm reminded of other things this administration has done, and suddenly, they're twice as long.

Actually, this one was one straight write. Took about an hour, I moved one sentence, added the new info on the fraudulence of the golf claim, and altered about a half dozen adjectives, and that was it. Not exactly Mozart's unblemished composition sheets, but I'll take it.

"If you're going through hell - keep going!" -- Winston Churchill

by Keith Olbermann on Wed May 14, 2008 at 09:44:06 PM PDT

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This is the point where you have to wonder if these people are simply lazy or mendacious? Keith did exactly what he said he did, he meant exactly what he said he meant - and he has certainly every RIGHT to say it in a country that is supposed to still have free speech.

Yet again, we have a completely mischaracterzation of a reasonable statment into some kind of anti-American slur. We've seen this with Michelle Obama and her comments about how the American people were coming together with common cause "for the first time in her adult life". We've seen many of the comments of Rev Wright distorted (which admittedly wasn't hard to do). Or the comments of Rosie O'Donnell the half-million Iraqi casualties - so far - and just who the "terrorists" responsibile for this war?

(No, She did not mean our Troops, she clearly meant Our President is Responsible. He is "The Decider", Right?)

The very thought that Our Troops are Terrorists is just plain insane. It's a LIE to say that Rosie made that claim, Michelle has made that claim, or that Olbermann has made that claim.

Here, yet again, and again and again, socio-pathological liars like Ingraham, O'Reilly and Olbermannwatch throw fact and common sense out the window in a desperate and sad effort to smear the critic. To justify the unjustifiable. To excuse criminals by confusing them with our Heroes. Deliberately. Viciously.

Keith was at least honest enough himself to realize that some people may have taken his comments the wrong way if you weren't fully paying attention, or simply don't care about the truth... but I care.

We care.

And I'm sure the Troops, those who've fought, bled, died, been traumatize and continue to struggle financially and emotionally after their service Care too.

Does Laura?

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emanymton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 04:19 AM
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1. You Point Out It Is Their World. Lie Lie Lie
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Ms Ingraham makes her living telling lies. Her whole show is based on the premise of lies and distortions.

This is going no where, so let her speak.
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emanymton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 05:38 AM
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2. I Too Care
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Your points are valid. Yes, the liars and their lies need to be pointed out.

Allow the liars to speak. The more one hears what they say and _how_ they say it, the clearer it becomes that the liars have lost.

It is imperative that the rest of us do not become like them. Do not allow 'spin' to stand unchallenged. Speak truth and allow the chips to fall where they may.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 07:06 AM
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3. Ms Ditto Mouth...what do you expect...another lying sack of dung
Edited on Thu May-22-08 07:07 AM by whistle
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Heather MC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 07:26 AM
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4. What a backwards world, K. Olbermann needs to be stopped, but out president can send 4055 troops
Edited on Thu May-22-08 07:27 AM by Heather MC
to their death, based on a lie. That's ok.
I will take a Keith Olbernmann "mis-speak" anyday
HIS WORDS AND ACTIONS ARE NOT KILLING PEOPLE AND RAVAGING A COUNTRY WHO"S ONLY CRIME IS BEING MUSLIM WITH OIL!!!!!!
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 07:46 AM
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Sam Ervin jret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 11:00 AM
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7. OUCH! There's a cut I haven't heard before. But maybe Ann and Laura could be happy together.
And men around the world would be safer.
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 09:59 AM
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6. Really dumb repukes like LI are sounding as if howling and screeching from under
rocks; From one of the darkest and shit covered rocks of all, faux propaganda.
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jmondine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 12:28 PM
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8. Laura Ingraham, is your own position so weak and impotent...
that the only way you can defend it is with lies?
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colonel odis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 12:36 PM
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9. i hope people like laura ingraham, ann coulter, sean hannity, and all the little wannabes
are happy.

because they've created nice little careers for themselves. they've tapped into a niche that is loyal, has lots of money to spend, and will believe anything you tell them. they get to be on tv and on the radio; they get to write books; they get to speak at big, important-looking functions. they've got it good.

thing is ... they have no soul. no conscience. no popularity outside the people who applaud them because they hurl vile, evil, insulting lies for a living. reasonable, decent folk think they're pieces of shit.

perhaps it's worth it. be a millionaire and be adored by people. people, that is, who are blindingly ignorant, fearful bigots. wow. that's some price to pay for fame.

but i guess that's the price you gotta pay if you're not good enough to make it in the real world.

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Dave From Canada Donating Member (932 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 01:08 PM
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10. Looking at this from afar, it's all very juvenile. One side says the other side hates the troops,
and vice versa.
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travelingtypist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 06:37 PM
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11. Little warning please that this is a RW blowhard trying to
pretend she knows what facts are.

:puke:
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nerddem Donating Member (366 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 06:42 PM
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12. freudian slip?
haha, they're carrying out "the president's war"
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