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McCain's YouTube Problem Just Became a Nightmare
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Posted on YouTube: May 18, 2008
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Posted on DU: May 18, 2008
By DU Member: gateley
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   Okay.  AzDar   May-18-08 12:02 PM   #1 
   McCain = UNACCEPTABLE  LuckyTheDog   May-18-08 12:51 PM   #24 
      Check out this youtube....  Just-plain-Kathy   May-18-08 02:17 PM   #48 
      Exactly, even if you feel Obama is "inexperienced" you must acknowledge his ability...  Heather MC   May-18-08 02:54 PM   #59 
         "good people to be on his team."  aquart   May-18-08 06:59 PM   #100 
         yes that is why we have Cheney  klyon   May-19-08 09:19 AM   #140 
         I'm afraid we don't have anything to back up that statement  LiberalFighter   May-19-08 09:11 AM   #139 
            He hasn't been in any position that I am aware of .....  not_too_L8   May-19-08 10:41 AM   #147 
   k+r, he's got a LOT of shit out there that he NEEDS to answer to.  habitual   May-18-08 12:02 PM   #2 
   Are these lies?  Rocky2007   May-18-08 02:05 PM   #46 
   LOL, good question.  quantessd   May-18-08 03:45 PM   #68 
   I totally see what you are saying, and i prolly could have  habitual   May-18-08 03:46 PM   #70 
   he's just a consummate bullshit artist...  progdonkey   May-18-08 06:05 PM   #93 
   That's the beauty of blogs and websites.  bulloney   May-18-08 07:59 PM   #104 
   you make an excellent point...  blue sky at night   May-18-08 10:16 PM   #113 
   He has early stage Alzheimers, true, but that isn't going to keep me from putting on the gloves  tavalon   May-18-08 11:49 PM   #121 
   Light the shadow brightly  Rocky2007   May-19-08 09:19 PM   #158 
   he's the very definition of an "empty suit"  ginnyinWI   May-19-08 10:43 AM   #148 
      McCain's last crash  Rocky2007   May-19-08 09:33 PM   #159 
   funny, that's exact;y how I describes what going after McSame was going to be.  tavalon   May-18-08 11:44 PM   #120 
   Not to mention he's confused  oldtime dfl_er   May-19-08 01:48 AM   #129 
   Bravo!  Libby2   May-18-08 12:03 PM   #3 
   THE VIDEO SAYS TO PASS IT ON TO 10 PEOPLE, Have you done it, yet?  debbierlus   May-18-08 08:43 PM   #108 
      I suppose I could but three layers out, I don't know a single McCane supporter.  tavalon   May-18-08 11:50 PM   #122 
         Non-supporters of McCain will like this video even more,  quantessd   May-19-08 12:42 AM   #126 
            I live an insular life, I'm afraid  tavalon   May-19-08 02:17 PM   #157 
   Du'ers remember to rate these up a YouTube also. n/t  FSogol   May-18-08 12:09 PM   #4 
   Done!  wyenot_us   May-18-08 12:17 PM   #8 
   Done. We need to expose this fraud. nt  speedoo   May-18-08 12:40 PM   #19 
   Be sure to DIGG IT!!  understandinglife   May-18-08 03:41 PM   #67 
   Obama. Will. Eat. Him. Alive.  DeSwiss   May-18-08 12:13 PM   #5 
   Is he really that stupid, or just senile?  MindMatter   May-18-08 12:16 PM   #6 
   bottom of his class. then again, maybe both....  unblock   May-18-08 12:25 PM   #11 
   Probably both. He is toast and if he becomes president, America is.  ForeignSpectator   May-18-08 12:27 PM   #12 
   Yes.  hootinholler   May-18-08 10:52 PM   #115 
   Early Alzheimer's  tavalon   May-18-08 11:53 PM   #123 
   We have an oppo research thread on McCain in the Research section  eridani   May-18-08 12:16 PM   #7 
   Say What??????? Oh my Lord! This guy needs to be retired retired! So sad!  1776Forever   May-18-08 12:18 PM   #9 
   This is going to get brutal  Yael   May-18-08 12:19 PM   #10 
   Democrats have more talking points on him than I can count.  Zachstar   May-18-08 12:32 PM   #13 
   We need to keep track of this kind of thing  jaxx   May-18-08 12:32 PM   #14 
   Viewed, 5-Starred, Commented, Forwarded.  NBachers   May-18-08 12:33 PM   #15 
   John McCain: The kind of guy you want to take your  davepdx   May-18-08 12:35 PM   #16 
   Mumbler!  zingaro   May-18-08 12:37 PM   #17 
   Mumbler! #2  Rocky2007   May-18-08 02:17 PM   #49 
   A must see! k&r  DesertRat   May-18-08 12:39 PM   #18 
   K&R.  KSinTX   May-18-08 12:41 PM   #20 
   And some dems will either not vote or vote for him?  dmordue   May-18-08 12:43 PM   #21 
   They're as senile and out of touch as he is.  Crunchy Frog   May-18-08 01:15 PM   #32 
   And some dems will either not vote or vote for him?  Rocky2007   May-18-08 02:23 PM   #50 
   Advice for Mr. McCain:  Jemmons   May-18-08 12:48 PM   #22 
   And to think this guy leads Obama in most national polls.  ginchinchili   May-18-08 12:51 PM   #23 
   Please follow your heart ginchinchili  johnt66   May-18-08 01:06 PM   #27 
   Is that Blind Lemon Jefferson?  ginchinchili   May-18-08 01:11 PM   #30 
      That's Blind Blake - piedmont blues  RainDog   May-19-08 04:35 AM   #132 
   I guess maybe you should have supported Biden more effectively in the primary.  Crunchy Frog   May-18-08 01:18 PM   #35 
   Not nice.  gateley   May-18-08 01:22 PM   #37 
   Thanks, Gateley. That would be like me blaming the Bush presidency...  ginchinchili   May-18-08 02:46 PM   #56 
   That's a pretty rediculous statement, don't you think? I can only imagine the  petepillow   May-19-08 10:02 AM   #143 
   This genre of destructive post is why I urged for videos in GD-P.  L. Coyote   May-18-08 02:46 PM   #55 
   And to think this guy leads Obama in most national polls. #2  Rocky2007   May-18-08 03:23 PM   #64 
   Obama won 6 of the 8 polls this month  creeksneakers2   May-18-08 03:46 PM   #69 
   That's the point of this video - MSM is not showing this to people, they'll see the real McCain in  SaveAmerica   May-18-08 04:04 PM   #76 
   Thats right- Post the link on as many blogs  mcollier   May-18-08 09:54 PM   #112 
   So you must dispise women who say we should vote for Hillary because she is a woman?  dansolo   May-18-08 06:23 PM   #95 
   Ah, the power of the simplistic mind.  aquart   May-18-08 07:04 PM   #101 
   So you are saying we need to elect McCain because you say Obama doesn't have experiance?  no limit   May-19-08 10:04 AM   #144 
   there is no lie mccain won't willing tell.  KG   May-18-08 12:54 PM   #25 
   correct, any lie available for Mr. Mc Cain, K and R...  Stuart G   May-18-08 01:22 PM   #38 
   Wow  last_texas_dem   May-18-08 01:02 PM   #26 
   not so much negative ads, as just showing what he's said on his own! nt  JoeIsOneOfUs   May-18-08 08:52 PM   #109 
   He has confirmed what we already know...that he will say ANYTHING to look good  opihimoimoi   May-18-08 01:07 PM   #28 
   K&R. eom  smiley_glad_hands   May-18-08 01:09 PM   #29 
   kick for truth  Usrename   May-18-08 01:13 PM   #31 
   ## DON'T DONATE TO DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND! ##  DU GrovelBot   May-18-08 01:15 PM   #33 
   This has to go viral!  FrenchieCat   May-18-08 01:17 PM   #34 
   I'm hoping it makes its way to the Obama campaign and the DNC --  gateley   May-18-08 01:54 PM   #44 
   emailed, bookmarked, kicked and recommended.  FLDem5   May-18-08 01:18 PM   #36 
   I wish that I could k&r more than once!!!  dana_b   May-18-08 01:26 PM   #39 
   K & R  navarth   May-18-08 01:29 PM   #40 
   Perfectly presented. Irrefutable.  BushDespiser12   May-18-08 01:41 PM   #41 
   That's great  Time for change   May-18-08 01:43 PM   #42 
   Well, he'll get the sympathy vote. If you like Bush, you'll LOVE McCain. What an embarrasment !  The Village Idiot   May-18-08 01:45 PM   #43 
   McCain is another Bush -- lying and denying --- and when caught....  defendandprotect   May-18-08 02:03 PM   #45 
   excellent. thanks. n/t  seabeyond   May-18-08 02:06 PM   #47 
   yikes!  mamalone   May-18-08 02:24 PM   #51 
   Well, it is funny and it does make him look like an idiot however......  cstanleytech   May-18-08 02:26 PM   #52 
   It appears that he made the statement in the order  gateley   May-18-08 03:21 PM   #63 
   A more apt  The Wizard   May-18-08 02:41 PM   #53 
   "Screwball Express" is a better label  mrdmk   May-18-08 05:23 PM   #90 
      Curve Ball  The Wizard   May-18-08 09:51 PM   #111 
         Curve Ball was a drunk the CIA did not even trust  mrdmk   May-19-08 03:49 AM   #131 
   I was hoping for this on video -- McCain contradicting himself!  DianaForRussFeingold   May-18-08 02:44 PM   #54 
   10 people?  xxqqqzme   May-18-08 02:48 PM   #57 
   Whoo Hoo!  gateley   May-18-08 04:28 PM   # 
   Self Delete - Dupe. Oops. nt  gateley   May-18-08 04:28 PM   #78 
   I can't keep up with him.  WIllo   May-18-08 02:53 PM   #58 
   McCain - a flipflopper and a panderer  MiniMe   May-18-08 02:57 PM   #60 
   We already will have had...  ImForGore   May-18-08 03:00 PM   #61 
   Robert Greenwald's Brave New Films  mcg   May-18-08 03:19 PM   #62 
   The Taight Stalk Express Has Been Stopped  TaffyMoon   May-18-08 03:27 PM   #65 
   k&r and rated - has highest rating of today's political videos now  mia   May-18-08 03:39 PM   #66 
   Excellent -- almost 40,000 views in just a few hours! nt  gateley   May-18-08 04:33 PM   #80 
   Great video. Seen and forwarded.  Misskittycat   May-18-08 03:48 PM   #71 
   Fantastic video!  creeksneakers2   May-18-08 03:54 PM   #72 
   Why even bother going through the motions of an election  hokies4ever   May-18-08 03:56 PM   #73 
   He is Clueless  lovuian   May-18-08 03:57 PM   #74 
   And people actually think Obama will lose to this guy.  Drunken Irishman   May-18-08 04:01 PM   #75 
   Agreed  BecauseBushSaysSo   May-18-08 05:21 PM   #88 
   Never underestimate the stupidity  pipi_k   May-18-08 06:42 PM   #97 
   Part of that was the RW media declaring those debates a draw or a Bush win.  bulloney   May-18-08 08:11 PM   #106 
      And part of it fucking people don't even know who their own Governor is. LOL  lonestarnot   May-18-08 11:04 PM   #116 
   Irishman, your statement is very logical,  bulloney   May-18-08 08:07 PM   #105 
   Divide it up into six 30 second spots and there's the whole ad campaign. nt  blackops   May-18-08 04:25 PM   #77 
   You got it! nt  gateley   May-18-08 04:33 PM   #82 
   Its not every election cycle that you find a candidate that admits he is clueless  ToughLuck   May-18-08 04:28 PM   #79 
   McSame's SNL performance reeked of Desperation  Dead Elephant   May-18-08 04:33 PM   #81 
   OT --  gateley   May-18-08 04:36 PM   #83 
      Thanks  Dead Elephant   May-18-08 05:06 PM   #86 
   Wonderful.  BlooInBloo   May-18-08 04:56 PM   #84 
   We elected a C student.  IamyourTVandIownyou   May-18-08 05:05 PM   #85 
   He was a POW for years, which  RazBerryBeret   May-18-08 05:18 PM   #87 
   McCain is the "FAIL!!!"  Limelight   May-18-08 05:23 PM   #89 
   That's a brutal indictment.  jefferson_dem   May-18-08 05:35 PM   #91 
   In the tradition of Ronald Reagan  deutsey   May-18-08 05:41 PM   #92 
   while we're at it -  Kaleko   May-18-08 06:11 PM   #94 
   Man, he is ever pathetic!  Maestro   May-18-08 06:37 PM   #96 
   I've watched this video three times now  gristy   May-18-08 06:45 PM   #98 
   Bingo!  mwb970   May-19-08 08:31 AM   #135 
   Now THERE'S a president I can understand! He talks just like me! Whoo hoo!  Kablooie   May-18-08 06:56 PM   #99 
   McCain will say what ever bullshit fits the moment  whistle   May-18-08 07:39 PM   #102 
   If this flip-flopping had been done by a Democrat, it'd be all over the MSM 24/7.  bulloney   May-18-08 07:53 PM   #103 
   because, blloney,...McCain is wanted by the media & JK was going to break up the media  ray of light   May-18-08 08:33 PM   #107 
   Wow!!! Lies all over the place....  curiousdemo   May-18-08 09:35 PM   #110 
   Oh, this is going to be fun  bigbrother05   May-18-08 10:27 PM   #114 
   He's too senile ...  BearSquirrel2   May-18-08 11:21 PM   #117 
   He might back out before the election. He was the best they could do?  The_Casual_Observer   May-18-08 11:23 PM   #118 
   Thing is, he is from the era when a reporter had to find the lies  tavalon   May-18-08 11:37 PM   #119 
   Anyone have a transcript for it?  HawkeyeX   May-18-08 11:59 PM   #124 
   I think we have a DUer who is a transcriptionist  gateley   May-19-08 01:38 AM   #128 
   Up on YouTube for just 12 hours, and already 205335 views  gristy   May-19-08 12:21 AM   #125 
   40 minutes since I last looked, and now 268961 views!  gristy   May-19-08 12:59 AM   #127 
   Views on DU: 8462 Dang, we really have a few viewers, don't we!!  L. Coyote   May-19-08 02:33 AM   #130 
   Now 373024 views. n/t  mcg   May-19-08 09:00 AM   #137 
      Views: 391,521 = Honors for this video (57) RATE this VIDEO @ YouTube  L. Coyote   May-19-08 11:26 AM   #151 
   What a freakin Liar  democracy1st   May-19-08 05:04 AM   #133 
   This guy could lose all 50 states.  mwb970   May-19-08 08:24 AM   #134 
   john "the republican" mccain.... an accident looking to happen  happygoluckytoyou   May-19-08 08:31 AM   #136 
   It should be a crime to vote for this asshole.  EnviroBat   May-19-08 09:01 AM   #138 
   I couldn't get through the whole thing! The incompetence is appalling!  snappyturtle   May-19-08 09:56 AM   #141 
   Am I the only one that sees the irony in this video?  progressoid   May-19-08 09:57 AM   #142 
   Forget swiftboating, this guy has Driftboated himself!  DB1   May-19-08 10:10 AM   #145 
   Climbing Mt. Macaca! Almost to the peak already. LOL Welcome to Politics 2.0 John.  L. Coyote   May-19-08 10:45 AM   #149 
   THANKYOU FOR THIS POST!!!!!!!!! reccomend!!!!  1_cali_dem   May-19-08 10:29 AM   #146 
   Fantastic Video  Ichingcarpenter   May-19-08 10:54 AM   #150 
   WTF? He doesn't even try to *hide* his lying  KansDem   May-19-08 11:28 AM   #152 
   Half a million views and Top Rated on Youtube: WOO HOO  debbierlus   May-19-08 11:38 AM   #153 
   Big Media's days are numbered  BadgerKid   May-19-08 11:53 AM   #154 
   When Will McCain Drop Out? Pick the Date Contest.  L. Coyote   May-19-08 12:13 PM   #155 
   Wow, that is completely awful, he's TOASTED in Nov.  48percenter   May-19-08 01:40 PM   #156 
   659666 views, 7,363 ratings, Honors for this video (59)  mcg   May-19-08 10:44 PM   #160 
   another video: John McCain vs. John McCain  mcg   May-19-08 11:10 PM   #161 
   Over 2 million views, still recommended! nt  mcg   Jun-10-08 01:38 PM   #162 
 
AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Sun May-18-08 12:02 PM
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1. Okay.
:kick:
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LuckyTheDog (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-18-08 12:51 PM
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24. McCain = UNACCEPTABLE
Whatver one thinks about Obama, we simply cannot turn the country over to a confused guy like this
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Just-plain-Kathy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-18-08 02:17 PM
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48. Check out this youtube....
Unelectable (A Tribute to John McCain)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5dkRtGSx84

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Heather MC (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-18-08 02:54 PM
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59. Exactly, even if you feel Obama is "inexperienced" you must acknowledge his ability...
Edited on Sun May-18-08 02:56 PM by Heather MC
to pick good people to be on his team. He will not be like Bush and McCain, he will not run this country to benefit his big oil buddies.

He will pick a VP, an extremely competent cabinet. Bush has a bunch of yes men and woman on staff. Anyone that did not agree with that protocol got fired. and labeled a traitor or unpatriotic. To everyone who is not for Obama, do you honestly in your heart of hearts believe Obama will, fire people who don't agree with him, run this country to benefit big corporations, hire ridiculously under qualify people for top level positions, ie FEMA, and Homeland security.

And by the was since coming out with the wildly popular color code threat detector, what has Tom Ridge done?????????

McSame is so scary please don't hand our country over to this nutbag without a bloody fight!

If you read my post to this point
thanks. If you agree pass it on!
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-18-08 06:59 PM
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100. "good people to be on his team."
That's what they told us about George.
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klyon (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon May-19-08 09:19 AM
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140. yes that is why we have Cheney
to bring experience and depth to the White House, even though he picked himself as most qualified.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon May-19-08 09:11 AM
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139. I'm afraid we don't have anything to back up that statement
Obama doesn't have any history to support that. If you do, please provide it. He hasn't been in any position that I am aware of where he has put together a group of people to work for him other than for his campaign.

Bush on the other hand had history as a Governor and the people still elected him. They wrongly considered him competent despite the fact that Governors in Texas is essentially a do nothing office with very little power.
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not_too_L8 (757 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon May-19-08 10:41 AM
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147. He hasn't been in any position that I am aware of .....
his campaign proves he can organize
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habitual (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-18-08 12:02 PM
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2. k+r, he's got a LOT of shit out there that he NEEDS to answer to.
he seems to lie so much that finding his lies is like shooting fish in a barrel.....
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Rocky2007 Donating Member (141 posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-18-08 02:05 PM
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46. Are these lies?
Edited on Sun May-18-08 02:07 PM by Rocky2007
My feeling on this is he is not lying -- I think he just doesn't have any recollection minute to minute of what he said 10 seconds ago -- I really think this to be true.

This man is being used in some fashion because of his delusions. The repubs don't understand that we are on to them -- It's over!!!

The republicans were off on the wrong foot from the beginning of this campaign -- one looser after another. They didn't have one decent candidate. McCain was down to what -- 13% approval or less at his bottom figure? How could he end up on top?

I know -- it was by default. It died from the top down. The machine could have used any of them. They used * with not much trouble. (But then his grandfather was one of the guiding forces back in 1938). So John McCain won by default -- last man out, as it were.

McCain, like *, is not the brightest bulb on the tree (or is that the bush?). He was at the bottom of his classes -- had lost 2 planes before he graduated flight school and lost 3 more jets before his capture. Thank God for his capture, otherwise we could still be trying to catch up making new planes.

So is he lying or is he just a dead stump like his bff *?
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-18-08 03:45 PM
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68. LOL, good question.
I was wondering, myself, whether he was simply confused.
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habitual (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-18-08 03:46 PM
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70. I totally see what you are saying, and i prolly could have
chosen a better way to frame this, but i also believe that on several of the occasions where he completely turned on something he had earlier said that it was simply for being the 'right' thing to say at the moment rather than what he really believes, which to me, is a lie.
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progdonkey (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-18-08 06:05 PM
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93. he's just a consummate bullshit artist...
Which, according to Harry Frankfurt in his awesome essay "On Bullshit," is worse than being a liar, because liars at least acknowledge that there is an objective truth (even though they then subvert it by lying). A bullshitter doesn't care whether what he's saying is true or not, only that it helps him advance in the eyes of his audience.

A bullshitter is fundamentally an intellectual coward--even a liar has the courage to defend his lies before a hostile (i.e. educated) audience, but a bullshitter will just go from, for instance, "tax cuts for everyone!" to "I voted repeatedly against tax cuts."

Calling McCain a liar, then, is giving him too much credit, since he really doesn't give a shit what the truth is, only whatever will get him through the present interview, speech, convention, and election. In fact, that makes him worse than Bush, since Bush is just a liar--you can usually guess what the truth really is by whatever the opposite of what he says is: tax cuts stimulate the economy? Gotta be the other way around. The terrorists are on the run? Al Qaeda must be getting stronger, etc. With McCain, sometimes what he's saying is the truth, but it's only by coincidence.
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bulloney (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-18-08 07:59 PM
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104. That's the beauty of blogs and websites.
A couple of elections ago, McCain's flip flopping would have gone undetected, or it would have been picked up so late in the game it would have been irrelevant.

Today, blogs, YouTube and other media get the word out instantly on a candidate's lying. More people are on to the candidate when he/she is pandering by saying one thing to a group and the opposite to another group.

Republicans haven't figured that out apparently.

Or, are they just trying to take the easy way out of this through their attempts to restrict the internet? They've had the luxury of doing this in other situations, but haven't done it here yet, thank God.
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blue sky at night (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-18-08 10:16 PM
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113. you make an excellent point...
and btw, welcome to DU! You have to figure they needed some dumb ass to act as the sacrificial lamb, and boy did they pick one. He actually makes some of the gibberish coming out GWBu$h sound erudite!
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Sun May-18-08 11:49 PM
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121. He has early stage Alzheimers, true, but that isn't going to keep me from putting on the gloves
I'm fighting the shadow government behind him, the one that doesn't give a damn that McCain gets bloody (just think of them as the Hanoi shadow governemnt (no, I'm not saying that Vietnam has anything to do with this). Thing is, they hope we feel sorry for the poor old codger and don't hit him with our best shots but while I feel badly for him that his mind is going, I and others need to hit hard enough to keep that awful shadow government out of play. They've had their 8 years and look what we got.
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Rocky2007 Donating Member (141 posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon May-19-08 09:19 PM
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158. Light the shadow brightly
I understand and agree -- these shadow people need to be brought down, if it is possible at this point. They are, at the least, 60 years a head of us.

I am VERY tightly connected to Obama's thinking and can only thank him for being here now. If anybody can get things turned a bought Barack is that person.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon May-19-08 10:43 AM
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148. he's the very definition of an "empty suit"
He's gotten by on his hero status all of these years and knows how to pose as a serious politician. But whatever he had before, he certainly seems to have lost it. He's just taking up space now. Too bad he's going to have to finish up with a big loss. He's just not presidential material.
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Rocky2007 Donating Member (141 posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon May-19-08 09:33 PM
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159. McCain's last crash
Agreed. McEgghead has never been the brightest bulb in the pack. Bottom of his classes, only getting by from his family history. He lost 2 planes during flight school and 3 more until his capture.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Sun May-18-08 11:44 PM
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120. funny, that's exact;y how I describes what going after McSame was going to be.
Shooting fish in a barrel.
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oldtime dfl_er Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Mon May-19-08 01:48 AM
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129. Not to mention he's confused
Either addle brained or a pathological liar or a panderer of the worst variety.
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Libby2 Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-18-08 12:03 PM
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3. Bravo!
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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-18-08 08:43 PM
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108. THE VIDEO SAYS TO PASS IT ON TO 10 PEOPLE, Have you done it, yet?

These campaigns ONLY work IF everyone participates. E-mail it out. Pass it on. Don't forget to rate it on youtube five stars and add it to your favorites, as that is the only way it will stay UP UP UP and in full view.

AWESOME VID!
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Sun May-18-08 11:50 PM
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122. I suppose I could but three layers out, I don't know a single McCane supporter.
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon May-19-08 12:42 AM
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126. Non-supporters of McCain will like this video even more,
and they should see it, to remove any doubt in their minds.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Mon May-19-08 02:17 PM
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157. I live an insular life, I'm afraid
I live in a hippy enclave and I socialize with polyamorists and GLBTers so I think you can guess how many Republicans are in that group. Though recently a new person showed up at the poly meeting, well, a new couple in this case and politics came up and it's really mostly like preaching to the choir but he was obviously a Bush Republican so rather than blasting him out of the water, I have to give my group great kudos for just letting him tell us why and it had to do with his business and how Bush helps business owners but his business has taken a bath since the gas price hike so he's wavering. We gently (Did I mention how proud I was of my group? I facilitate but rarely have to intervene) talked about the causes of the increase and the ways in which this current administration wasn't helping and how McCain wasn't planning to help either. I directed him towards The Shock Doctrine by Naomi Klein.

It occurs to me that I should make some spiffy CDs of some of the most damning stuff and give him a pile along with that book. I'm quite sure he knows a few Republicans when I know only him.

It was nice that he wrote me later and said that while politics can be so contentious, our group, while disagreeing with his point of view, listened politely and didn't fall all over themselves to explain where he was wrong. He said it gave him the space to figure those things out for himself. There may be hope yet for this guy.
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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-18-08 12:09 PM
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4. Du'ers remember to rate these up a YouTube also. n/t
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Papillon Donating Member (387 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Sun May-18-08 12:17 PM
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8. Done!
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speedoo (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-18-08 12:40 PM
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19. Done. We need to expose this fraud. nt
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-18-08 03:41 PM
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67. Be sure to DIGG IT!!
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-18-08 12:13 PM
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5. Obama. Will. Eat. Him. Alive.
- K&R!!!
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MindMatter (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-18-08 12:16 PM
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6. Is he really that stupid, or just senile?
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unblock (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-18-08 12:25 PM
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11. bottom of his class. then again, maybe both....
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ForeignSpectator (942 posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-18-08 12:27 PM
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12. Probably both. He is toast and if he becomes president, America is.
Funny is how he talks about having to keep your word at the end... if he would at least decide for one.
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Sun May-18-08 10:52 PM
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115. Yes.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Sun May-18-08 11:53 PM
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123. Early Alzheimer's
Edited on Sun May-18-08 11:53 PM by tavalon
He's got all of the signs including the increased anger which happens as people begin to realize what's happening to them.

But, and this is an important but, while Alzheimer's is a sad, sad disease, we cannot afford to have another person with alzheimers in the white house.

Edited to add: No pity votes!
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-18-08 12:16 PM
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7. We have an oppo research thread on McCain in the Research section
Please put all this stuff in there.
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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-18-08 12:18 PM
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9. Say What??????? Oh my Lord! This guy needs to be retired retired! So sad!
Enough!!!!

Not this Time People - PLEASEEEEEEEE!

:wow: :wow: :wow:
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-18-08 12:19 PM
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10. This is going to get brutal
:bounce:
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Zachstar (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-18-08 12:32 PM
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13. Democrats have more talking points on him than I can count.
Landslide.
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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-18-08 12:32 PM
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14. We need to keep track of this kind of thing
and use it! use it! use it! when the bs flies this fall.

Great find gateley.
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NBachers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Sun May-18-08 12:33 PM
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15. Viewed, 5-Starred, Commented, Forwarded.
Edited on Sun May-18-08 12:47 PM by NBachers
We have decades of slander, slime, death, treachery, theft, corruption, abuse, and treason to make up for.

Don't hold back with this guy.

Run it up! My instincts tell me to go easy on a confused old man. But it's not just about McLame. It's about the entire diseased structure he represents. Crush conquer destroy decimate

We are dealing with murdering, blood-bathing psychotic sociopath thugs from hell. They can not be helped or rehabilitated. They must be pulverized without mercy.

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davepdx Donating Member (92 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Sun May-18-08 12:35 PM
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16. John McCain: The kind of guy you want to take your
alzheimer's medication with.
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zingaro (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-18-08 12:37 PM
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17. Mumbler!
He's a sequel, isn't he? Makes me shudder.
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Rocky2007 Donating Member (141 posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-18-08 02:17 PM
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49. Mumbler! #2
Absolutely!!
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DesertRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-18-08 12:39 PM
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18. A must see! k&r
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KSinTX (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-18-08 12:41 PM
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20. K&R.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-18-08 12:43 PM
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21. And some dems will either not vote or vote for him?
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-18-08 01:15 PM
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32. They're as senile and out of touch as he is.
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Rocky2007 Donating Member (141 posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-18-08 02:23 PM
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50. And some dems will either not vote or vote for him?
Sadly yes.

But!! On the positive side what Obama has done during this campaign is to re-energize the people of US of A
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Jemmons (385 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-18-08 12:48 PM
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22. Advice for Mr. McCain:
Buy the internet, switch it off and pretend that it was never there.
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ginchinchili (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-18-08 12:51 PM
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23. And to think this guy leads Obama in most national polls.
Democrats must quit gambling with our nation's future in order to make political statements. Obama has done nothing to prove himself worthy of the presidency. It's been all talk. I'm afraid that if Obama does get elected it will only serve to establish the dangerously shallow-minded notion that the US presidency is to be used to make social/political statements and that it's best to elect under-qualified, inexperienced politicians because they represent "change."

Republicans made the same egregious error by electing Bush. He, too, was under-qualified, but they believed he could promote their social/political agenda, even at the expense of our nation's best interests. He proved a miserable failure at both, and yet we still haven't learned from America's historic mistake. We somehow think that it's ok to do the same thing as long as it's a Democrat. Had we used our heads and nominated the best qualified, most experienced Democrat, Joe Biden, there would be no reason for anyone to consider voting for McCain except the most hopeless neo-conservatives. We would guarantee success in the general election and have someone who has the experience necessary to bring about real change.

I can't sanction an Obama presidency with my vote, and it's not due to my clinging to my fear of people different from myself. It's due to my fear of those who make such arrogant and insulting comments about Americans, many whom I care deeply about.
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johnt66 (23 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-18-08 01:06 PM
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27. Please follow your heart ginchinchili
I didn't see anyone on here asking you to vote for Sen. Obama, you5r vote is yours to do with as you please.
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ginchinchili (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-18-08 01:11 PM
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30. Is that Blind Lemon Jefferson?
It's hard to see, but it looks like him.
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon May-19-08 04:35 AM
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132. That's Blind Blake - piedmont blues
there are a bunch of blues avatars here. I made avatars with male and female, Native American, African American, Latin American, French-Canadian American poets, writers, chiefs, musicians... there are Appalachian fiddle players and jazz muscians...

the blues players, in alpha order (as they are on the avatars)
Big Bill Bronzy
Blind Blake
Blind Lemon Jefferson
(Boozoo Chavis)
(Elizabeth Cotton)
John Lee Hooker
Leadbelly
Memphis Minnie
Robert Johnson
Son House
Sonny Terry

because, yes, DU is the rockin-est forum on the intertubes. :)
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-18-08 01:18 PM
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35. I guess maybe you should have supported Biden more effectively in the primary.
:shrug:
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-18-08 01:22 PM
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37. Not nice.
Ginchinchili gave his all to Biden -- all of us Bidenites did. Please don't be mean.
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ginchinchili (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-18-08 02:46 PM
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56. Thanks, Gateley. That would be like me blaming the Bush presidency...
on those who voted against him.
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petepillow (590 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon May-19-08 10:02 AM
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143. That's a pretty rediculous statement, don't you think? I can only imagine the
complicated web of blame you must place on each and everyone one of us here at DU for the current level of republican power.

I guess maybe you should have supported Gore more effectively in 2000. Or perhaps it's your fault that Nader didn't rise up and save us all back then? Whoever you support, it's your fault they didn't win. :eyes:

And for the record, I truly believe Biden would have kicked some serious ass if given the respect of the MSM to survive the early primaries.
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-18-08 02:46 PM
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55. This genre of destructive post is why I urged for videos in GD-P.
I bet the unnamed place is already quoting this "gem"
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Rocky2007 Donating Member (141 posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-18-08 03:23 PM
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64. And to think this guy leads Obama in most national polls. #2
Your subject title doesn't seem to flo into your comments, but maybe it's me. Anyway ---

You commented --
"He, too, was under-qualified, but they believed he could promote their social/political agenda, even at the expense of our nation's best interests. He proved a miserable failure at both, and yet we still haven't learned from America's historic mistake".

The past few days there have been a number of threads (posts here and there) dating back to pre WWII and the influence from wealthy Americans -- Geo Bushes grandfather being one of them.

George Bush has preformed EXACTLY as these "King Makers" have required!

The under current of the Republican party has been to undermine the basic structure of the United States. To bring it down -- and Bush along with Chaney have held to their calling doing a monumental destruction of the under pinnings of this country these past 7+ years.

I was born into a southern baptist Republican family in the 30's but as of 2003 became a Democratic.

I agree, Joe Biden would be an awesome president but, the simple
fact is that is not going to happen. Maybe as VP would work -- works for me anyway!

John McCain is only the next step in the destruction of America.
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creeksneakers2 Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-18-08 03:46 PM
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69. Obama won 6 of the 8 polls this month
And the couple McCain won are by small margins, one by one point and another by three, while Obama is up by is much as 11 points in polls he won.

http://pollingreport.com/wh08gen.htm

The falsehood that McCain is ahead in most polls is widely circulated by the right wing and corporate media. Like much they say, it isn't true.

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SaveAmerica (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-18-08 04:04 PM
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76. That's the point of this video - MSM is not showing this to people, they'll see the real McCain in
the next five months and those polls will look like the drivel they are. We as Democrats need to get the word out and expose this man for what he really is.
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mcollier (849 posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-18-08 09:54 PM
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112. Thats right- Post the link on as many blogs
and forums you can....McCain's Problems Must See... Pass on... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TbN2fkPoQE
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dansolo (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-18-08 06:23 PM
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95. So you must dispise women who say we should vote for Hillary because she is a woman?
There are women who are voting for Hillary solely because she is a woman. That should bother you just as much, if you were intellectually honest. But, you probably don't have any problem with the shallow voters who are voting for your preferred candidate.

Oh, and by the way, Hillary has done absolutely nothing to prove HERSELF worthy of the presidency. Her record of accomplishments is pretty thin.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-18-08 07:04 PM
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101. Ah, the power of the simplistic mind.
It's awesome, really.
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no limit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon May-19-08 10:04 AM
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144. So you are saying we need to elect McCain because you say Obama doesn't have experiance?
What kind of idiotic bullshit is that? I'm sorry, I can't be nice about this. Your candidate lost, grow the fuck up and do what is right.

This experience you claim to be so important has gotten us in to the mess we are in now. Clinton's experiance lead to this war. Biden's did too. To his credit he actually read the 92 page intelligence report on Iraq prior to voting for it, but in the end he still voted for this idiotic war.

We had one viable candidate that was against this war from the start, and that was Obama. We found out with Kerry that no matter how much you claim to be against something it won't matter if you cast that original vote for it. I really don't understand what the fuck your problem is but you all need to stop this bullshit. I never thought I would see this kind of idiotic irrationality around this place, I was proven wrong when the primaries came around.
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KG (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-18-08 12:54 PM
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25. there is no lie mccain won't willing tell.
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Stuart G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-18-08 01:22 PM
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38.  correct, any lie available for Mr. Mc Cain, K and R...
Edited on Sun May-18-08 01:27 PM by Stuart G
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last_texas_dem (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-18-08 01:02 PM
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26. Wow
Telling stuff... Very good material for some negative campaign ads; hopefully we will not miss our opportunity. Better, since they would be about issues and not personal or irrelevant matters.
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-18-08 08:52 PM
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109. not so much negative ads, as just showing what he's said on his own! nt
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opihimoimoi (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-18-08 01:07 PM
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28. He has confirmed what we already know...that he will say ANYTHING to look good
Empty heads talk empty language....pity
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smiley_glad_hands (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-18-08 01:09 PM
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29. K&R. eom
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31. kick for truth
:kick:
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-18-08 01:17 PM
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34. This has to go viral! Updated at 6:59 PM
and turned into a commercial!
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-18-08 01:54 PM
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44. I'm hoping it makes its way to the Obama campaign and the DNC --
and hopefully the national news outlets!

One person on the site this references, (www.therealmccain.com ) sent it to 50 people!

I think it's well on the way to going viral -- it was only posted today and already almost 500 YouTube viewings.


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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-18-08 01:18 PM
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36. emailed, bookmarked, kicked and recommended.
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dana_b Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Sun May-18-08 01:26 PM
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39. I wish that I could k&r more than once!!!
great compilation. I will send this to those that I know who are on the fence.
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navarth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-18-08 01:29 PM
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40. K & R
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-18-08 01:41 PM
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41. Perfectly presented. Irrefutable.
K & R
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Sun May-18-08 01:43 PM
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42. That's great
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WheelWalker Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-18-08 01:45 PM
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43. Well, he'll get the sympathy vote. If you like Bush, you'll LOVE McCain. What an embarrasment !
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-18-08 02:03 PM
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45. McCain is another Bush -- lying and denying --- and when caught....
there is only more denial, but with authoritarian arrogance --- !!!


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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-18-08 02:06 PM
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47. excellent. thanks. n/t
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mamalone (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-18-08 02:24 PM
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51. yikes!
This was just too painful to watch... seriously, I turned it off halfway through :(


That said, this does need to get out there- everywhere. I can't imagine voting for this man. The thought of him being President is terrifying.
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cstanleytech (905 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-18-08 02:26 PM
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52. Well, it is funny and it does make him look like an idiot however......
how accurate is it?
For example when they showed him saying the general over in Iraw rides in an unarmored humvee and then saying he rides in an upper armored humvee and I am wondering about the time for those, in other words which one came first?
I just wanna be sure its accurate because if it is I might post a link to it on another political forum I visit and I really dont wanna get caught with my pants down as it were and be shown that its not accurate.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-18-08 03:21 PM
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63. It appears that he made the statement in the order
presented on the video -- since he was asked about the "unarmored" statement and presented with the contradictory response from the General's staff. Then he tried to explain away the the "unarmored" statement.




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The Wizard Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Sun May-18-08 02:41 PM
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53. A more apt
description would be the Curve Ball Express. Because Bush doesn't speak in complete sentences, deliberately or not, he has a built in excuse for never telling the truth. McCain can't make that claim without being tagged senile.
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90. "Screwball Express" is a better label
A screwball breaks from left to right from the prospective of the pitcher.
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The Wizard Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Sun May-18-08 09:51 PM
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111. Curve Ball
was the name of the intelligence source McCain and his ilk used to justify the Iraq invasion and occupation
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mrdmk Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon May-19-08 03:49 AM
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131. Curve Ball was a drunk the CIA did not even trust
But the White House did :patriot:
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DianaForRussFeingold (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-18-08 02:44 PM
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54. I was hoping for this on video -- McCain contradicting himself!
:-) Brilliantly, put together! :applause: Thank You! :kick:
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57. 10 people?
I just sent it to about 75! Nothing like being prepared for what's coming.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-18-08 04:28 PM
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Whoo Hoo!
Edited on Sun May-18-08 04:31 PM by gateley
Run time: 03:15
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEtZlR3zp4c
 
Posted on YouTube: May 18, 2008
By YouTube Member: bravenewfilms
Views on YouTube: 8865919
 
Posted on DU: May 18, 2008
By DU Member: gateley
Views on DU: 19862
 
EDIT -- I don't know why the video is showing up in this post again -- I can't see the link so can't delete it. Sorry.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-18-08 04:28 PM
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78. Self Delete - Dupe. Oops. nt
Edited on Sun May-18-08 04:28 PM by gateley
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Willo (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-18-08 02:53 PM
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58. I can't keep up with him.
He answers depend on the slant of the question at the moment.
He comes across as a pathetic old man who doesn't remember.
He doesn't even recognize his own words in his own voice.

I'm looking for the interview on his plane that followed his 2013 speech.
Its more of the same stuff.
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-18-08 02:57 PM
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60. McCain - a flipflopper and a panderer
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Frisbee Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-18-08 03:00 PM
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61. We already will have had...
8 years of a below average, war-mongering, dishonest, immoral and unethical right wing asshole. The last thing we need is 4 more years. I agree that Obama will eat him for lunch, but what scares me is that the typical voter, who doesn't pay attention to what's going on until the last 2 weeks of the campaign may not find out about the real John McInsane until he is already in office. By then it will be too late. So, while I agree that Obama should be able to wipe the floor with him, I am going to be biting my fingernails until the election is over. Oh, and BTW, Obama DOES need to wipe the floor with him, because if the results are close, well you all know how that can turn out....
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mcg (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-18-08 03:19 PM
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62. Robert Greenwald's Brave New Films
Robert Greenwald's Brave New Films

http://bravenewfilms.org

excellent site


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TaffyMoon (254 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-18-08 03:27 PM
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65. The Taight Stalk Express Has Been Stopped
Well Done.
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mia (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-18-08 03:39 PM
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66. k&r and rated - has highest rating of today's political videos now
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-18-08 04:33 PM
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80. Excellent -- almost 40,000 views in just a few hours! nt
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Misskittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-18-08 03:48 PM
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71. Great video. Seen and forwarded.
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creeksneakers2 Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-18-08 03:54 PM
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72. Fantastic video!
I wish that was made into a TV ad. I wrote an E-mail to MoveOn.org asking them to use the 60 Minutes footage of McCain lying about his walk through Baghdad. McCain is getting away with pretending he's a "straight talker" and the media is backing him up. The only way to destroy that image is with word of mouth or advertisements. I'll send the link along.
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hokies4ever (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-18-08 03:56 PM
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73. Why even bother going through the motions of an election
when we all know that Obama has this in the bag? :rofl:
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lovuian (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-18-08 03:57 PM
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74. He is Clueless
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McfBxZ85v30

mccain shopping in Baghdad for his 6 dollar persian rugs
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-18-08 04:01 PM
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75. And people actually think Obama will lose to this guy.
Look at him debate, he looks lost. He is not good at debates and while Obama may uhm a lot, he never sounds lost or confused. McCain will be trashed and come off as too out of touch for the presidency.
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Politicalboi (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-18-08 05:21 PM
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88. Agreed
Maybe by the end of the first debate we will have McCrazy chanting "Yes We Can"
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Sun May-18-08 06:42 PM
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97. Never underestimate the stupidity
Edited on Sun May-18-08 06:42 PM by pipi_k
of a certain percentage of the country's voters.

I mean, look at how idiotic GWB looked against John Kerry during the debates in '04. Honestly, it was like setting up a chimp to debate Einstein. And look what came of it....

No doubt the same people who voted for Bush in '04 because he "looked like someone who'd be fun to have a few beers with" would probably vote for McCain because he reminds them of their crazy but beloved old Uncle Stumpy who lives in the chicken coop instead of his own house and talks to himself while crawling around the town common looking for leprechauns.

It's truly frightening how many people are willing to elect someone who reminds them of their mentally retarded relatives or the dog they had when they were 12 years old... :yoiks:

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106. Part of that was the RW media declaring those debates a draw or a Bush win.
My God, I watched those debates and was totally amazed at how clueless Bush came across, especially in the first debate. I watched the ensuing debates, expecting Bush to improve due to coaching and being better prepared for the questions posed to him. He still sounded like someone who had no handle on the issues.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-18-08 11:04 PM
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116. And part of it fucking people don't even know who their own Governor is. LOL
:toast: cheers.
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bulloney (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-18-08 08:07 PM
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105. Irishman, your statement is very logical,
but I'm afraid that when a lot of people actually cast their vote for President, I think there are still too many people who will convince themselves that they're not yet ready for a Black president (assuming Obama is the nominee) and will vote for McCain by default. I think the same mindset is present if Hillary should be the nominee.

From what I've seen in this campaign season and in other events in my life, there's still a lot of bigotry out there.
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OnyxCollie Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Sun May-18-08 04:25 PM
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77. Divide it up into six 30 second spots and there's the whole ad campaign. nt
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-18-08 04:33 PM
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82. You got it! nt
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ToughLuck (419 posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-18-08 04:28 PM
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79. Its not every election cycle that you find a candidate that admits he is clueless
Edited on Sun May-18-08 04:30 PM by ToughLuck
about the economy upon which he wants to govern..lol K/R
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Dead Elephant (68 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-18-08 04:33 PM
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81. McSame's SNL performance reeked of Desperation
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-18-08 04:36 PM
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83. OT --
Great site -- and you've got some wonderful friends!!
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Dead Elephant (68 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-18-08 05:06 PM
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86. Thanks
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-18-08 04:56 PM
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84. Wonderful.
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IamyourTVandIownyou (446 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-18-08 05:05 PM
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85. We elected a C student.
Let's not elect the F student.
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RazBerryBeret (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-18-08 05:18 PM
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87. He was a POW for years, which
makes his war record hard to touch BUT he did lose/crash FIVE U.S. Navy aircrafts....
wow.

http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnmccain.com/cin_mcc...
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Limelight (391 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-18-08 05:23 PM
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89. McCain is the "FAIL!!!"
Apparently the DNC needs to get Brave New Films to run their media branch during the campaign for the GE because if the country as a whole ever saw this he'd be sooooooooooooooo DONE.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-18-08 05:35 PM
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91. That's a brutal indictment.
Well done, Greenwald!
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92. In the tradition of Ronald Reagan
and we know how he worked out...
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Kaleko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-18-08 06:11 PM
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94. while we're at it -
(I'm having deja vus reading this thread) -

revisit this January 08 classic by Robert Greenwald of bravenewfilms and give it some bang for its buck.

John McCain vs John McCain http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioy90nF2anI
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Maestro Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Sun May-18-08 06:37 PM
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96. Man, he is ever pathetic!
I really have no other words.
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gristy (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-18-08 06:45 PM
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98. I've watched this video three times now
I continue to shake my head. This guy is running for President? He is in over his head, and he himself realizes this. I don't see how he is going to survive the campaign season without a mental and/or physical breakdown.
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Mon May-19-08 08:31 AM
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135. Bingo!
You are so right. Look how the poor old fool is falling apart in the early going. Gaffe after gaffe, foolish remark after foolish remark. Endless flip-flops.

Just as you said, he is in way over his head. bush is over his head as president but he campaigned "well". mcSame can't even run a campaign right. He can't keep his story straight for a week at a time. And this is the easy part!

"He can't even run his own life, I'll be damned if he'll run mine..."
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Kablooie (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-18-08 06:56 PM
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99. Now THERE'S a president I can understand! He talks just like me! Whoo hoo!
Edited on Sun May-18-08 06:56 PM by Kablooie
I'm an Republican moran and I approved this message.
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whistle (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-18-08 07:39 PM
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102. McCain will say what ever bullshit fits the moment
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bulloney (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-18-08 07:53 PM
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103. If this flip-flopping had been done by a Democrat, it'd be all over the MSM 24/7.
I remember the 2004 Kerry campaign and the constant hammering he took over his "flip flopping." What Kerry did was nothing compared to McCain's, and we're just beginning the presidential campaign season.

Instead, the MSM news gerbils proliferate this "straight talk express" and "maverick" myth.

Un fuckin' believable.
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ray of light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-18-08 08:33 PM
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107. because, blloney,...McCain is wanted by the media & JK was going to break up the media
so they made it their mission to prevent his message from getting out and by making sure that they pur their own lies in place.

They succeeded.

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curiousdemo (453 posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-18-08 09:35 PM
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110. Wow!!! Lies all over the place....
The straight talk express has blew a tire. He's been hanging around Bush to much. Bush has taught him how to lie with a smile. I hope the American people doesn't fall for Bush proxy...aka John Mccain.
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bigbrother05 (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-18-08 10:27 PM
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114. Oh, this is going to be fun
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BearSquirrel2 (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-18-08 11:21 PM
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117. He's too senile ...

He's too senile to know the difference.

First he was for everything he is for. Now he is against everything he was for (except god, babies, puppies and abortions).

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The_Casual_Observer (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-18-08 11:23 PM
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118. He might back out before the election. He was the best they could do?
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Sun May-18-08 11:37 PM
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119. Thing is, he is from the era when a reporter had to find the lies
and he rightly believes that the paid reporters are in his pocket. But this youtube thing is just too confusing for oldtimers. He doesn't get that there are thousands, perhaps hundreds of thousands out there willing to research the veracity of his claims. He can't just throw some crap out there and assume that it won't be looked at. It won't be by the paid "reporters" but there are true reporters out here who will hang his ass out to dry.
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-18-08 11:59 PM
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124. Anyone have a transcript for it?
I really do appreciate the work of Mr. Greenwald and would like to see it.

Unfortunately, I am deaf, and Youtube RARELY have their stuff captioned.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon May-19-08 01:38 AM
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128. I think we have a DUer who is a transcriptionist
(if there is such a word). I'll put out the call and if I don't get a response, I'll work on it tomorrow and get it to you. It will be worth the wait (and my probable typos!). :hi:
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gristy (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon May-19-08 12:21 AM
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125. Up on YouTube for just 12 hours, and already 205335 views
This thing's going viral. I emailed the link to 20 people.
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gristy (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon May-19-08 12:59 AM
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127. 40 minutes since I last looked, and now 268961 views!
Holy moly, batman!
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon May-19-08 02:33 AM
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130. Views on DU: 8462 Dang, we really have a few viewers, don't we!!
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mcg (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon May-19-08 09:00 AM
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137. Now 373024 views. n/t
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democracy1st (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon May-19-08 05:04 AM
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133. What a freakin Liar
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