OBAMA: ACTING TOUGH IS NOT BEING TOUGH

[Hope And Change]

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President Hopefull Barack Obama aswering question of bringing the country together and stop political bickering

[grantcart]

1. well that just makes too much fucking sense

[BeatleBoot]

2. So, he finally looked in the mirror?

Pussies won't debate.

Obama won't Debate.

Draw your own conclusion.

[kid a]

7. "pussy"? I finally figured out who beatleboot is...scut farcus returns!

[BeatleBoot]

8. You might want to stop trying to figure out who people are...

And start thinking about how fucked our party is.

Because it is.

[VolcanoJen]

10. So in the previous 21 debates, was Obama a "pussy"?

By your metric, he ought to get a fuckin' medal for taking his medicine TWENTY ONE F'N TIMES already.

But since we won't agree to Hillary's 22nd Vanity Debate, he's suddenly a pussy, and it's suddenly not sexist for Hillary supporters to throw that word around.

Christ, I can't wait until it's Obama-McCain, period, the end.

[TheDonkey]

11. pussies won't debate

how very articulate.

[BeyondGeography]

14. Here ya go, pussy person

http://youtube.com/watch?v=5nKHBSFSosY

[evolvingsteve]

18. lol, boo-ya!

Love it!

[returnable]

22. Was Hillary a "pussy" when she refused to debate her primary challengers in NY?

The hypocrisy is staggering on so many levels...

[returnable]

24. Kicking for a Hillbot to defend the "pussy" comment...

Gotta love it. After all this time, and the Hillbot hasn't popped back in to defend the comment. Is s/he a "pussy"?

[NM Independent]

27. Idiots miss the point

You missed the point.

Draw your own conclusion, pussy.
(If you weren't paying attention to the first 21 then just STFU. This is a NON ISSUE)


For the rest of you. The bullies that talk shit without end, and pick on people because they have the power to do so, are the real pussies. It works great for them until the little guy, the nerd, or the goofy looking bi-racial guy calls their bluff and beats the ever living shit out of them. Then they go running home, with piss and shit soaked pants, to their Mommy.

However, the best way to get a shit-for-brains bully to go away is to just ignore them. That's why Obama won't debate Hillary.

As for me, I took - in my day - no greater pleasure than beating the shit - literally - out of bullies. A quick way to get your tough guy reputation ruined is to get beaten down by a guy that's 5'2". Now, I just belittle their intelligence until they look as if they may have an IQ of 50.

I fucking HATE bullies, and Hillary is definitely a bully.

[haymakeragain]

32. WOW! I mean WOOOOW! Any Hillarians want to denounce this sexist

piece of dogshit?

Hey beetle bailey, I see you.

[caledesi]

3. Txs. He speaks from his heart! NT

[quantass]

4. recc

[evolvingsteve]

5. ....the stronger man...

....walks away from the political points fight and saves the fight in him to defend the American people, makes VERY good sense.....A true Leader. I'm so proud to have him as our nominee, it's not hard to see that he is....and keep in mind too the great potential he has as well in November by opting for public financing, don't forget to read the thread on that as well kiddies, on the homepage of DU.
PEACE

United we Stand!


OBAMA/Richardson or Obama/Biden 08'!

[caledesi]

6. Well said! nt

[Senator]

9. Sorry Senator Hopeful, But Only Impeachment Is Being Tough

Simply talking about being tough certainly is not.

And no, that's not a good enough reason for your failure to satisfy our treaty obligations and defend the Constitution. And all that other talk is just rationalization.

Only impeachment can bring the country together and stop political bickering.

If Hillabama were enough, we'd be seeing it in polls already. It's not there and not coming.

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[aein]

23. Only Impeachment proceedings 6 months before the general election can bring the country together?

[Senator]

29. Yes, exactly.

The nation can't be brought together by rubber-stamping torture and war crimes.

Do you think the victims of ongoing abuse at Gitmo -- or the human rights judges at The Hague -- give a damn about out general election?

Is it supposed to be some kind of excuse?

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[indimuse]

12. Shut UP and Debate!

Chicken shit! http://imageshack.us "><img src="" border="0" alt="Image Hosted by ImageShack.us"/></a><br/>

[iamthebandfanman]

15. ill tell ya one thing thats for sure

using terms like 'chicken shit' and 'shut up' isnt gonna make it happen.


you hillary supporters are sad. i feel bad for ya, i really do. you have my sympathy.

now if you could only get back all that money you wasted.
people these days need that money they are donating to her already failed campaign.

[MindMatter]

19. How many "ignores" are we allowed to have?

Skinner, if I am running low, I'll gladly pay for another 10 ignores.

[democracy1st]

25. lol i agree

[fedupinBushcountry]

16. Is that you Bill O'Reilly?

How pathetic.

[evolvingsteve]

17. which is worse?

He-Man Woman haters or sexist trying-to-prove-there-tough-because-their-woman Hillary supporters???

...both.


you Hill freaks just want another manipulated debate that doesn't focus on the issues, .....tell the truth now.
Hillary saw nothing wrong with the last debate and RIGHT THERE that makes something wrong with her motives overall for any debate and how to become President.


oh, and one more thing, since you want to get derogatory with words and say fuck lady like mannerisms,.......stop throwing the fucking kitchen sink to prove your tough, in the end you instead just look like a psycho bitch, not a tough one.

[RBInMaine]

20. Another brain-challenged HillFAN who didn't learn anything the first 21 times & can't read a website

[NM Independent]

28. You are one of the most annoying posters...

on any board I've ever seen.

Chickenshit? Coming from someone that supports Hillary, the "fighter"

Give me a fucking break. She's no fighter, and you've done nothing during this primary than to make me despise her even more. And Hillary supporters say that "Obamaniacs" turn people off...Jeeeeesus.

[haymakeragain]

33. Which do you want, shut up? Or debate?

Fall off the wagon?

[Larkspur]

13. America will always be divided

My girlfriend's husband and a Republican co-worker won't vote Democratic and I won't vote Republican. I don't believe in the Republican ideology and they don't believe in the Democratic one. That's just the way it is.

But Obama is right that the President sets the tone. I have no problem with him reaching across the aisle, but that should not mean caving into the other Party's demands.

[MindMatter]

21. Idealogy or rhetoric?

Those are two entirely different things.

The rhetoric of the GOP is personal freedom, gun rights, religion, anti-tax, small government, anti-immigration.

The ideology is quite different when you look at the reality of what they actually do with their power.

A similar argument can be made about the Democrats. Our rhetoric talks about American jobs, protecting the least among us, and standing up to greedy corporations, and there are plenty of examples where the true Democratic ideology is nowhere near the rhetoric.

When people like Nader say the two parties are Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum, he is talking about the actual ideologies in practice. Obviously the rhetoric is vastly different between the Democrats and Republicans, but the actual ideologies have not been so different. That is mainly because the Democrats only held power over multiple branches for a brief time in the past 20 years, and that was with a President that was perfectly happy to sell out any Democratic principles if it was a good deal for him personally.

My point is that if Democrats' ideology lived up to their rhetoric, there are a lot of people from the other side who would consider it. But we are divided -- just about 50-50 in this polarized era. If Obama is hugely successful, he will get 20% of the normal GOP supporters to give him a chance and approach his Presidency with an open mind, even if they don't vote for him. That will still leave 30% opposed, so I certainly agree America will always be divided to some degree.

There is another important factor. Obama has been honest about this. We face really big problems, and he will be asking for sacrifices. You can't solve some of our biggest problems without sacrifices and compromises. We have several generations of Americans that are literally fat, dumb, and happy (although people aren't so happy these days). A large percentage of Americans have become complacent and narcissistic, and the GOP rhetoric is carefully crafted to appeal to the most self-centered among us. Recall that George Bush's solution to 911 is that we should all go out and buy stuff. His answer to the recession brought on by 9 trillion dollars of federal debt is to give out more tax rebates.

If Obama follows through on HIS rhetoric, he will be asking for real sacrifices in some cases. I dare say most people who identify with the Republican rhetoric are not willing to make these sacrifices. That will ensure some division remains.

But let's get real. Even Republicans hate the current administration. Obama really does have an historic opportunity to unite this country.

[pberq]

31. Good points

In addition, the media and their corporate backers have been all too happy to pander to the self-centered.

[MindMatter]

34. They want a public consumed by the frivolous

The big change that has happened in the past 30 years is that the "media" (meaning the old MSM) has become entirely inseparable from the corporate oligarchy. It is all part of the same organism. The media now exists primarily to steer customers to the corporations, and all the cheap, worthless crap they want us to consume.

How ironic is it that such efforts can be made to have us consume product that do nobody any lasting good, yet we still have tens of millions in poverty and 50 million that are only one diagnosis away from financial ruin?

Imagine a world if the corporations could have been engaged to solve some of these problems instead of just trying to get all of us to go into debt deeper and deeper to buy our next Hummer or Wii.

[barack the house]

26. The last part is the best...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40XICxRA7mc

[bdamomma]

30. Barack should have added those who act tough are cowards too.