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China_cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 11:19 AM
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The way to bring down Wal-Mart
This might sound like blasphemy, but every person, and every union local, should buy Wal-Mart stock.

As a stockholder you can't be kept out of yearly meetings. When the Wal-Mart hierarchy expounds on how their stockholders expect them to use their business model in order to gain dividends, there would be a large VOTING block at those meetings to say it's a lie. If they try to throw you out, the media should love the story of stockholders not being able to voice their opinions. (And if the msm doesn't cover it, the internet would make it widely known)

Dividends earned from the stock could be used to fund organization efforts. Use their greed against them.
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 11:22 AM
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1. One corporation at a time!
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nightrider767 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 11:24 AM
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2. I've also got an idea..
Edited on Fri Feb-01-08 11:25 AM by nightrider767
Americans, stop spending. At Walmart, or anywhere. It wasn't until we slowed the spending down this Christmas that the middle class got the slightest recognition of existence from the Chimp In Chief.

Not to mention, for most of us, if you can't afford to pay cash, you can't afford it.

Keep in mind companies like Walmart are very sensitive to any change in our spending habits.

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China_cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 11:31 AM
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4. But think about what the combination could do
A big bunch of people who never shop there but do own their stock and attend meetings and vote? Not to mention being able to say "Yes, I own Wal-Mart stock but I don't shop there and don't think you should either."
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nightrider767 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 11:39 AM
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6. Well it's a fine idea...
People are just not that organized. Not to mention for a lot of the country, without Walmart, it would be hard to buy cloths for the kids. We're stuck.

I say we hit them in their pocketbooks. That's the lethal blow.

When corporations stop getting rich off us, they will have o figure out a way to help us.

Which would be hard to do, as they need us down in order to profit.

All I know is that it's going to be an interesting 10 years coming up. I have no idea what will happen, but a change is coming one way or the other .
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bellasgrams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 11:37 AM
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5. The gov. is telling to spend to help the economy, if everyone
stops spending that's like cutting our nose off to spite our face. Also I know everyone wants Walmart to unionize, I was union for 20 yrs. but how many retail stores are union? I think Circuit City may have been but last summer they started getting rid of all the 'seasoned' employees who had worked their way up the pay scale and they were replaced by hiring at a lower scale. Now that really goes against the grain.
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nightrider767 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 11:49 AM
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8. Yes, it's like cutting our noses off to spite our face..
This corrupt system must fall before it can be rebuilt. Like it or not, sooner or later, it's gonna happen.

They tell us we're a consumer economy. We don't really produce much outside of services. But a consumer economy is a spending economy. We keep things going by spending with borrowed money. It's unsustainable. It's a fantasy. Paying Visa with Master card.

Let it fall so that we may rebuild.

Maybe next time when we stimulate corporate growth we might add some pesky add-ons like, if you want a tax break, you must create jobs in this country. Or,,, how bout, since your manufacturing is overseas, time for you guys to pack up your head-quarters and families and move to China.

It like like a termite infested, 1/2 dead tree.

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Omaha Steve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 06:03 PM
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11. Not to stop spending

Just stop spending at Walmart. That is part of what America needs. Others have to make the ame cuts to compete.

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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 11:24 AM
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3. The government can also help by repealing one law and passing another.
If the government were to really help, then the next Congress should repeal completely the Taft-Hartley Act or at the least neutralize sections that allow states to pass "right to work" laws. Those laws allow a non-unionized worker to be employed at a union shop, and I have no problem with that, but what I do have a serious problem with is that these laws also say this non-unionized worker gets the same benefits as unionized workers who did fight and did contribute to the gains. That's not fair to union workers, imho, because freeloaders can ultimately destroy a union as a result.

And they should pass the Employee Free-Choice Act that makes it easier for workers to unionize.
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bellasgrams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 11:47 AM
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7. I live in a right to work state. The co. I worked for had unions(2).
IBEW & CWA depending on their department. Employees did not have to join the union. They did get the benefits but they also had union dues taken from their checks. No choice. Now I don't know if that was in the contract or if was covered in state law. So if it was just in the contract then others should do the same.
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class2068 Donating Member (72 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 01:20 PM
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9. More in WalMart
The Center for Reptile and Amphibian Conservation and Management

Eastern Whistling Turtle

Kinosternon trumpetensis centralis

MAIN : SPECIES ACCOUNTS : EASTERN WHISTLING TURTLE

Identification The Eastern Whistling Turtle is a small and often hard to identify species. The carapace is keeless, lacks any pattern, and varies in color from yellowish to black. The plastron is large and double hinged, and can be yellowish to brown, and may sometimes have a dark pattern. The chin and throat are a yellowish grey, streaked and mottled with brown, while the limbs and tail are grayish. The eye, or iris, of the Whistling Turtle is yellow with dark clouding and its feet are webbed. This species is unique in its ability to make a shrill, piercing whistle that can be heard for as much as a mile and for its ability to spit a potent venom .

Distribution and Status This species natural range is from Bangor, Maine, south through Florida to the Gulf Coast, across east-central Texas, north via the Mississippi Valley to Missouri, southern Illinois and Indiana. Isolated populations are also found in northwestern Indiana. In the Midwest, this turtle is currently found only in Indiana, where it is listed as State Endangered, and in Illinois. It is also listed as endangered in Massachusetts and Northern Rhode Island, and eastern Connecticut.

Ecology The Eastern Whistling Turtle prefers shallow bodies of water and can often be found on land. Wet meadows, ponds, marshes, and drainage ditches are ideal for this species. The turtles can withstand brackish water well, and are also found on the edges of tidal marshes, and on islands.

Threats and Management Issues A variety of animals eat the eggs and juveniles of this species. Humans further threaten populations, killing many on roads and by destroying the turtles habitat. Loss of habitat is largely a result of water pollution, wetland drainage, and business development. This species, as with several other turtle species, is thought to be especially susceptible to global warming as it has a very limited ability to deal with an increase in habitat ambient temperatures. One of the largest turtle kill-offs of the past 40 years was traced to the building of a WalMart department store in central Massachusetts. Heat generated by the store raised the temperature of a surrounding wetland area, destroying a Whistling Turtle population estimated to have exceeded 300 of the endangered animals. Cats, dogs, and other domestic animals are reported to have gone missing in this turtles territory, probably victims of the animals venom and generally nasty disposition.

Resources

Ernst. C. H., J. E. Lovich and R. W. Barbour. 1994. Turtles of the United States and Canada. Smithsonian Institution Press, USA.
General reference guides and websites.
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MAIN : SPECIES ACCOUNTS : EASTERN WHISTLING TURTLE

Center for Reptile and Amphibian Conservation and Management

Science Building

University of Massachusetts

2101 Morrell Building

Amherst, MA 01003

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Omaha Steve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 05:53 PM
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10. Please cross post this in Environment & Energy

Very good post. GD might be a good spot too. Thanks.

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classykaren Donating Member (127 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 11:55 PM
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12. wake up walmart
lets suggested that to wake up walmart
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