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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 01:19 PM
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A Rotten ACORN?
(cross posting from GD)

From an op-ed on WSJ - if we can just look at the facts?

A growing number of people once affiliated with Acorn want nothing more to do with the group. Marcel Reid, for example, was one of eight national Acorn board members who were removed last year after demanding an audit of the group's books. She notes that Acorn received $7.4 million in contributions from the Service Employees International Union (SEIU) between 2005 and 2008 but actively fights unionization efforts by its own employees. Ms. Reid also notes that Acorn was sanctioned by the National Labor Relations Board in 2003 for illegally firing workers trying to organize a union.

In 1995, Acorn unsuccessfully sued California to be exempt from the minimum wage, claiming that "the more that Acorn must pay each individual outreach worker . . . the fewer outreach workers it will be able to hire." The decision to file that lawsuit was made by Wade Rathke, who founded Acorn in 1970 and was its long-time leader. He was forced by the group's board to resign last year after it found that he'd engaged in a cover-up of a nearly $1 million embezzlement of Acorn funds by his brother Dale, then the group's chief financial officer.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203917304...

I would have thought that if these are true, that all the DUers with the UNION YES avatar would be the first to condemn ACORN.

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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 01:33 PM
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1. Fund Lies All The Time. Start from the position that Fund is lying
(also a cross post)

Personally, I am taking a big wait and see with Acorn. It doesn't look good to me.

But I will not be taking any evidence from John Fund.

He is a compulsive liar for the right wing.

Last example of Fund's compulsive wingnut lying that I remember was when he claimed hordes of liberal lawyers and Democratic Operatives had descended on Alaska after the Palin VP nod. It was not true.
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 02:17 PM
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2. We've already established that you have "a thing" for Fund
Now, why not come and show proof that:

1. ACORN does not block unionizing
2. ACORN does not seek exemption from paying min wage?

Until you can show that ACRON does support unionizing and does pay its employees min wage, all you generate is more and more hot air.

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Omaha Steve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 06:04 PM
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3. I'd like to hear from an SEIU member on this

I know we have a few that post here.

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