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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 07:30 PM
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It is a shame more DU members don't visit the Labor forum
Edited on Sat Oct-04-08 08:03 PM by DainBramaged
a real shame. You all call yourselves Progressives? I'm not going to browbeat any of you, I just think that when you start with your 'holier than thou' shit, think about those of us who struggle here to make YOU the membership of DU, AWARE of Union and anti-Union activities, and situations that AFFECT YOU directly everyday.

Most of you would rather talk about Sarah Failing's fucking hair or glasses.

:grr: :rant:

And it is a shame that the few of you who bother to read this probably wouldn't think to come here normally. (except by Union brothers and sisters, who struggle here too).
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ogneopasno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 07:40 PM
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1. So-called progressives, in my experience,
care very little about labor. I know exactly what you're talking about.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 07:47 PM
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3. I have been a Liberal/Progressive/Union member ALL of my adult life
Very early on I was registered as an Independent, but since 1976, I ave been a Democrat. My first Union membership was in my first job at the A&P stocking shelves and pushing carriages (Grocery Workers Union 1966). I have belonged to the Teamsters, SEIU, and UAW, PROUDLY, and even though some of my Union reps were assholes or corrupt, I always had a better work environment in a UNION shop, period.

Nice to meet you, and thanks for the reply.
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ogneopasno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 07:55 PM
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6. I salute your union service!
I've been a member of the UAW-affiliated National Writers Union and the Newspaper Guild, and my partner was a union carpenter and is now a UTU conductor. We are Union Proud.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 08:00 PM
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7. I have one question, why do all of our Union home pages usually just suck?
Conductor! I ALWAYS wanted to be a train engineer. But HO scale is as far as I got.


:hi:
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ogneopasno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-08 07:45 AM
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13. He's thinking about moving up to engineer...
...lotsa guys retiring, and who can resist blowing that horn...

Do you mean Web pages? I've seen some good ones -- what unions need to do a better job of online is SEO. And especially in the building trades. It shouldn't be as hard as it is sometimes to find a union plumber or home builder if I want one.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-08 01:54 PM
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14. You bet, but it isn't 'blown the horn, it's driving the biggest thing next to a boat
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ogneopasno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-08 02:04 PM
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15. He just started several months ago.
On his first day on a train, he was like, "DAMN, those things are big. They're just...really, really big."
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bluesmail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 07:44 PM
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2. Being a 31 year-union member IF I had the time to read
everything DU has to offer I wouldn't have time for sleep. If ya know what I mean. Sorry if this sounded like an attack on your OP.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 07:48 PM
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4. Nah, I understand, but my FIRST stop in the morning is here
:hi:
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 07:54 PM
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5. Yeah, bro.
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Omaha Steve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 09:29 PM
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8. Part of it is my fault, I've had to let things slow down for now

I've been away from the Forum, except for 2-3 posts a day for a few weeks now. I'm in study mode for an EPA test I have to pass for work for my promotion. Once I pass, I'll be my old self. I'm scheduled to take it on the 30th of Oct. I won't know until about 3 weeks later. I have to pass is by the end of January, or go back to my old lower classification.

OS

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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 10:09 PM
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9. pASSING IS way MORE IMPORTANT, and WE appreciate your efforts
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 10:17 PM
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10. I've never been a union member..
I've never had benefits, never had health care. I've spent 30 years in the hotel/restaurant business. I've had more jobs than I can remember. I do not wear the label of a progressive, so perhaps I can be excused from not visiting the forum?
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Omaha Steve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 10:44 PM
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11. How to Join a Union OR Working America!

http://www.aflcio.org/joinaunion/how/index.cfm

Working people in all walks of life join together in unions to gain a voice at work. Union members have a say about pay, benefits, working conditions and how their jobs get doneand having that say gives them a union advantage.

If you do not have a union at your job, find out more about how to form one. Today, more people are taking the step to form unions on the job than at any time in recent history. You can be one of them!

* Get in touch with a union organizer: http://www.aflcio.org/joinaunion/how/howto.cfm


* Not a union member? You can still join us.

: http://www.workingamerica.org/join /






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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 10:54 PM
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12. too late for me, but I appreciate
Edited on Sat Oct-04-08 10:55 PM by stillcool47
the reply, and the link.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 04:55 PM
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16. Bump the magic dragon Froggie
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 08:58 PM
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17. Another K&R for the 'Progressives' who refuse to visit here.
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Oldtimeralso Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-08 11:02 PM
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18. Roger That on the K & R
41 year union member (now retired), union member spouse, both of us raised in union households.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 01:24 AM
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19. Loyality, something our hand-wringing DU friends don't understand
:hi:
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OrwellwasRight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 12:47 PM
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20. Yes, but . . .
You are correct. The labor union movement, so important to America as we know it, is just not in the forefront of the minds of most progressives any more. They have forgotten that things like minimum wage, unemployment insurance, social security, pensions, workers' comp, sick days, overtime, etc. we owe to the union movement.

And, oh yeah, pretty much no Dem would be elected without the free labor provided by union members.

However, wouldn't this rant be more effective if posted in GD or some other forum? I mean, if your complaint is that not enough DUers come here, how will they ever get a chance to consider your point?

-former proud member UFCW; former proud member and local officer of NEA
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 02:32 AM
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21. I have tried, but on Nov 4th, we will have the last laugh
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Brucie Kibbutz Donating Member (704 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 04:20 AM
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22. Used to be in the Teamsters...
... but I was young and stupid. Ended up quitting the best job I ever had, working on the dock at Roadway Express.

Anyway, I'm kind of new here and was thinking the very same thing as "Dain". It was disappointing to see such a lack of interest in issues that affect so many of us. If we don't start organizing and fighting back, the big corporations will have us all working part time jobs through temp agencies for $7/hr with no health insurance.



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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 09:13 PM
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23. Teamsters will be strong again, I promise
Union will not be a dirty word after November 4th.

And welcome to DU.

:toast:
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CatholicEdHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 06:30 PM
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24. I visit every so often
DU is a big place, I am behind the unions for good wages, benefits which branch out to the rest of the working world.
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