FDA Fucks Up Again

[dogday]

FDA Pans Pot

CBS/AP) The Food and Drug Administration says there is no sound scientific basis for believing marijuana use has medical benefits. Critics assailed the federal agency's position, saying it was based on politics rather than science.

The FDA said it and other agencies with the Health and Human Services Department had "concluded that no sound scientific studies supported medical use of marijuana for treatment in the United States, and no animal or human data supported the safety or efficacy of marijuana for general medical use."

A number of states have passed legislation allowing marijuana use for medical purposes, but the FDA said, "These measures are inconsistent with efforts to ensure that medications undergo the rigorous scientific scrutiny of the FDA approval process and are proven safe and effective."

The statement contradicts a 1999 finding from the Institute of Medicine, part of the National Academy of Sciences, which reported that "marijuana's active components are potentially effective in treating pain, nausea, the anorexia of AIDS wasting and other symptoms, and should be tested rigorously in clinical trials."

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/04/21/health/main1526323.shtml


I dont't trust a word that comes from the FDA, they have their own agenda...

[shoelace414]

1. There are no sound scientific studies because..

The feds don't allow anyone to run any. And if they do it's illegal, so it can't be sound science.

[Asgaya Dihi]

18. There's a few

We don't have a lot of studies because they control access here in the US, but in a few cases studies they intended to show harm ended up showing other things and some has been done in other nations as well. I'm not sure how complete the list is, but a taste of what's out there can be found at the following link.

http://norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=3472

There's a lot more potential out there I'm sure, it just has to be given the freedom to be researched and proved. There were indications it could be useful in cancer decades ago but the DEA shut it down, wasn't till recently the idea came up again. No telling if it will actually go anywhere or not, but if it does what have we lost?

http://www.alternet.org/story/9257/

[Frank Cannon]

2. This is actually based on sound science

At least, sound American 21st-Century science, which is based on intelligent design.

Basically, what the whole proof amounts to is that God says pot is bad. Therefore, pot cannot be medically sound. QED.

Oh, yeah... :sarcasm:

[rpgamerd00d]

3. The FDA has approved numerous synthetic THC pills. HYPOCRITES!

The FDA has approved numerous synthetic THC pills, such as Marinol, that are the same thing.

Except they are 10 times more expensive...

FDA = in pocket of Drug Companies.

[marmar]

4. "I dont't trust a word that comes from the FDA"

Amen and hallelujah! :applause:

Yet another agency that's been turned by BushCo into a vehicle for advancing political and corporate agendas rather than advancing the public good. :cry:

[annabanana]

5. We will not be able to trust anything that comes out of

any branch of the Administration, until there is a NEW administration!

[mdmc]

6. all they got is rhetoric

talk to those in need. Listen to how it has helped them. The FDA knows that it works, but it mired in red tape. They say that there is no benefit to "smoking" thc. What about eating it?

When you are sick, and don't feel like eating, and get sick (vomit) when you eat, you need help.
Smoking pot helps.
The FDA have no response to this simple logic.

[madokie]

7. I live with pain all day every day and night.

take, or supposed to, hydrocodone every 6 hours. Yet a couple hits of pot does me much better, plus I've grown to enjoy the side effects, contrary to the hydrocodone.

[dogday]

8. You know better than anyone how much

it helps. I am sorry to hear that, I too have medical problems that are painful.. I have my good days and my bad days...

[madokie]

11. my bad days are mostly the days of sticks,stems and seeds

And I bet you will agree with me when I say this. Life is too beautiful to be a prisoner of pain. Thanks for your kind words. I just hope you have more good days than bad. And lots 'n lots of love.

[spag68]

14. Pot

will get you through times of no money better then money will get you through times of no pot.

[madokie]

15. Makes me laugh, no truer words ever spoken

been saying and hearing that since way back when
And as I look back I remember it to have always been true.
peace

my latest addition to my damn good smiles file courtesy of a fellow DUer

[movie_girl99]

16. I wholeheartedly agree

there was a time in my life when things were not so great. If i hadn't had my Saturday night smoke outs to look forward to, I would've never made it. That was the one day that i could truly relax and not think about the shit that was going on in my life at the time. Things are great now but i do jones for it occasionally.

[spag68]

13. pot

I have back problems, including two surgeries. I agree with you about the pot. AT 64 I think I should have the right to substitute pot for pain pills if it works for me. Smoking since 1960.

[rodeodance]

9. my question: Why NOW?

[movie_girl99]

10. this is complete bullshit my mom had ovarian cancer

in the mid 80's. Her oncologist in a round about way told her that smoking pot after chemo would make the effects a bit more tolerable. I remember vividly her coming home from treatments, smoking up and then going to bed for a day and a half. Then she would wake up and go to work until next time. She said it really made a difference, that she didn't feel as sick if she smoked it.

[dogday]

12. It is and the people should speak up

I know many people it helped when they had cancer.. My Boss was dying and he just could not keep anything down.. Pot helped him, it changed him..

[Avalux]

17. lol - what a joke. Can't do clinical drug trials on pot.

What dosage? What 'brand'? How often? There are so many intangibles that even if the government allowed pot to be tested, it would be impossible to define these questions, which are very important in a controlled trial. It would be a nightmare, lol.

Just because there aren't any sound scientific studies DOESN'T mean it doesn't work to relieve pain and stimulate appetite.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

19. Bornaginhooligan weighs in.

This is very serious. Much more so then, I think, most people realize. Don't dismiss this because it involves pot and sounds silly.

Here's why: The FDA has already approved the use of THC. They did so back in the eighties. It's been widely prescribed in it's synthetic form ever since. The FDA did all of the required testing, all of the research, all with the healthy human volunteers and so forth. They found that side effects include an increased appetite, mild euphoria, and bloodshot eyes. That's pretty much it. No addiction, no tolerance, no risk to human health.

Now you might say, "oh, but thats different, that's synthetic." Baloney. It's the same molecule, it's the same drug, it binds to the same receptor, it has the same response, it has the same side effects. The only difference between oral and inhalation dosing is how quickly it gets into the blood stream.

So what's it all mean? The FDA has abandoned science for politics. We're talking Tuskegee Experiment level incompetence.

What's the big deal? We know that the Bush WH is doing the same thing with Evolution and Global Warming, so what?

Here's what. The FDA is in charge of protecting every single American who takes medicine. In the same way FEMA is responsible for protecting Americans during a disaster.

Let's take the canonical example- thalidomide. There was this drug that women took for morning sickness. The U.S. predecessor for the FDA didn't approve of it. Why? It hadn't been fully tested. Good thing to, because this anti-morning sickness drug caused horrible birth defects. So this pre-FDA institution saved many thousands of people from suffering. How? By using good science.

Now we've heard rumors of this growing incompetence in the FDA before, with Vioxx for example. Who, what, and how much was to blame is highly debatable. The Vioxx debacle is murky.

This THC sham is not. It's clear to me that the FDA is no longer working in the better interests of the American people.

Going on a new prescription med? My advice would be to check out how it's been approved by foriegn drug administrations before using it yourself.

[spanone]

20. A lapdog for the right-wing Reefer Madness Fucking Idiots.

My mother smoked when she was dying of cancer and it MADE HER FEEL BETTER. That's all I got to know. Her doctor tried to sell her on a FORTY DOLLAR PILL that had no effect on her at all(just write your check to Glaxosmithkline). A little pot did the trick. So those fuckers can say anything they want to to enrich their fucking friends at the pharmaceutical companies, but Marijuana is a good thing. MOST LAW ABIDING CITIZENS KNOW THIS.

[dogday]

21. You can tell these blow-hard-know-it-alls

anything..

[mdmc]

22. .

:mad: