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ReverendDeuce Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 10:06 AM
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MUST SEE VIDEO of the DECADE!
Edited on Tue Apr-18-06 11:00 AM by ReverendDeuce
Turns out it was a fake after all! Still funny, though... :)



http://www.stillfree.com/

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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 10:11 AM
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1. Well atleast we know he's got more balls than brains
That's for damn sure.
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QuettaKid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 10:12 AM
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2. WOW ! ! ! ! ! WOW ! ! ! ! !WOW ! ! !
that guy is my new hero. so much for security around "angel".....I mean my gob has been officially smacked!!!
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QuettaKid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 10:13 AM
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3. K & R.
how long untill this hits the MSM?
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TheDebbieDee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 10:13 AM
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4. OMG! How did this tagger even get near AF One?
Maybe the Secret Service has decided that this president isn't worth protecting!
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TAPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 10:17 AM
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5. Right On!
Homeland Security and the SS are doin' a huckuva job! :)
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QuettaKid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 10:21 AM
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9. On second viewing,I have to question the reality of this video. . .
Marc Ecko is a very wealthy and wellknown, hiphhop clothing designer.....Is this video the real deal?
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 10:28 AM
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17. Looking at it closely, and with the footage shot under the wing itself...
Edited on Tue Apr-18-06 10:28 AM by Cooley Hurd
...I'd say, yep! It's real! :wow:
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imax2268 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 10:20 AM
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6. Wow...
man...that takes balls...The guards have the authority to shoot on site...

How the fuck does the Resident expect us Muricans to believe that he and his cabal will protect us when a guy can get access to a federal installation and tag AF1 with spray paint...
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 10:25 AM
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12. "The guards have the authority to shoot on site"
I would imagine a few guards will receive a verbal tongue-lashing of the worse kind.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 10:39 AM
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28. Air Force and rifles
Just run directly towards them and you'll be okay :D

:hide:
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ovidsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 10:20 AM
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7. If I wasn't seeing it with my own eyes...
The cynic in me is screaming "photoshop"!!

But I'm gonna k and r anyway...
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 10:20 AM
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8. what does it say?
in your pic?

dp
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ReverendDeuce Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 10:22 AM
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10. The tag reads "STILLFREE", like the web URL... n/t
n/t
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 10:25 AM
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14. thanks!
dp
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QuettaKid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 10:27 AM
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16. KICK. . . . .this needs more eyeballs.
is it legit? any PS experts out there?
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 10:24 AM
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11. He's In A Fight w/ Denver
to hold a Grafitti Party here. G
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 10:25 AM
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13. That video speaks a million words.. Unbelievable!
So stunningly unbelievable that I'm still trying to figure out how they got away with it.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 10:25 AM
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15. Was this reported anywhere else?
I'd like to think he really did it but I don't know....
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 10:29 AM
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18. That's amazing. When did this happen?
Any ideas?
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Ava Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 10:29 AM
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19. i don't know if i'm believing this
i'm seriously wondering is this was faked.


regardless, it's an awesome video.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 10:36 AM
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24. I starting to think it's fake too, but still cool
and very well done if so.

Does anyone really think the little dictator would let this guy remain free?

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KyndCulture Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 10:34 AM
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20. Doesn't look faked to me. nt.
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Brigid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 10:38 AM
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26. This can't be real.
Even if some tagger did manage to get through all the security and do this, it would have been all over the MSM by now, I would think. But real or not, I love it.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 10:40 AM
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30. Unless the Secret Service wanted to avoid embarrassment
Maybe they decided to hide it from the media.

I'm fascinated by this video, real or fake.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 10:44 AM
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32. Send the link to Olbermann
Edited on Tue Apr-18-06 10:44 AM by htuttle
...And I bet it will be all over the MSM in no time. You don't expect the Secret Service to publicize it, do you?

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KyndCulture Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 10:51 AM
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37. Hell no this is an embarassment to the security details.
That's why it's not out there.. so lets get it out there.

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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 10:52 AM
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38. I think it's quite real
Seeing the tagging in context, it would be incredibly hard to fake this -- far beyond what people consider 'photoshopping'.

I think that many people seem think the Federal Government is a lot more powerful and on the ball than they actually are...

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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 10:58 AM
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41. I have written a lot of graffiti in my day
That video looks as real as can be.

I agree that it would be very, very difficult to fake the video. It's real.

It hasn't been released by the gov't because it is a major embarrassment to the Secret Service. hell, the fact that it happened at all is probably classified along with any reports about it, for "security reasons" of course. That's the real deal.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 11:02 AM
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45. Guess not
Check link below.

Fooled me, and I've done stuff like this.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 10:35 AM
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21. Awesome...reminds me of the old days, hitting the trains
Nice fuckin' job, Ecko!!!

Kill shit!
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 10:35 AM
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22. Dude just bought himself a one-way ticket to Gitmo.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 10:36 AM
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23. Amazing! THAT's what I call counting coup!
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 10:39 AM
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27. yup!. . . . n/t
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QuettaKid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 10:39 AM
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29. again, this guy is WEALTHY
maybe he felt he could afford the lawyer? He is HUGE in the hiphop community.
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ProdigalJunkMail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 10:44 AM
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34. a lawyer won't be getting him out of this if real
which i seriously doubt...
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 11:00 AM
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44. Ooops
Edited on Tue Apr-18-06 11:01 AM by alcibiades_mystery
At least, it looks real to me, and I wrote graffiti in NYC for years and years.

He'd certainly have charges lodged, but that's if the authorities reported it at all. You can see why they didn't. It is a major embarrassment. Filing charges would require public disclosure, and all the reports on this are probably classified for "security reasons," you know?

O edit: fooled me!
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 10:38 AM
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25. pretty damn wild
If true, I'd hate to be the poor mook on patrol that night...
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 10:43 AM
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31. I BOW TO YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 10:44 AM
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33. This is very disturbing
The fact that someone got that close to Air Force One (regardless of who is POTUS or what you think of him) is frightening.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 10:47 AM
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36. I had the same thought
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 10:44 AM
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35. direct link
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QuettaKid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 10:58 AM
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42. I have watched it 4 times now.
I can see how it could easily be faked.....I mean think about what you can do with video. I saw a guy wrestling a shark the other night.
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gatorboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 11:09 AM
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49. The shark wrestling video wasn't half bad!
I wish Deep Blue Sea had looked that impressive.

I do believe it's fake though? Those guys are way too open in promoting what they did. And besides, I doubt Marc Ecko would be so open to promoting the incident if it actually took place.

Still cool though!
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-..__... Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 10:55 AM
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39. Disclaimer link... Faked.
Edited on Tue Apr-18-06 10:59 AM by D__S
"Please read the language set forth herein carefully as it may affect, inhibit, modify or otherwise influence the interests or perceptions of any end user (hereinafter "you" or "end user") viewing the preceeding video (also referred to herein and hereas as "The Still Free Video"). You, the viewer of the preceeding are hereby advised that the video does not depict a real event. It is intended for the sole, limited and express purpose of entertainment and to induce you, the viewer of the video, to think critically about freedom of expression and speech and the government's responses to the same. Therefore, and by reason of the foregoing, the producers, creators and distributors of this video hereby verily certify that the foregoing fictionalization and dramatization was not real. Furthermore, and without limitation now, since the beginning of time and without perpituity, the producers, creators and distributors of this video and anyone else who was involved in the making of this video assume no risks or liabilities stemming from or related to your ("the end user's") viewing of same and assume no liability for any damages that result directly or indirectly from mistakes, omissions, interruptions, deletions of files, viruses, errors, defects or any failures of performance, communications failures, theft, destruction or unauthorized access. Copying, duplication and distribution of this video is encouraged."

http://www.stillfree.com/links.html

There's also a link that details how Air Force One had been faked/duplicated for the movie "Air Force One".

http://www.avweb.com/news/reviews/182370-1.html
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 11:07 AM
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48. Thanks. So it is essentially an advertisement video, like a music video
But also a political statement. Very well done!! It was certainly SCARY!
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-..__... Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 11:36 AM
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51. Or a Bennington or Nike commercial....
"Just Do It"!
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Greyskye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 12:34 PM
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53. Was just coming back to post the same thing lol

Ah well. At least I found that before I forwarded it on. It was quite well done, however.
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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 10:55 AM
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40. self-delete
Edited on Tue Apr-18-06 10:59 AM by MindPilot
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dubyaD40web Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 10:59 AM
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43. Holy Crap!
This guy is awesome! I downloaded the video just in case his site gets removed, etc. This needs to be sent to all MSM!!
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QuettaKid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 11:11 AM
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50. damn. . . .I knew it was too good to be real ! ! !
still, the IDEA behind it is AWESOME.
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Goblinmonger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 11:02 AM
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46. Why I doubt this video
Edited on Tue Apr-18-06 11:04 AM by Goblinmonger
I am hoping that people more knowledgeable about graffiti and jets will help me out.

The letters seem to go on too quickly and too smoothly. Those letters would have to be HUGE and they go on too smoothy and too quickly. I have never done grafitti, but when I spray paint, there is no way I would be able to get that good of definition that far above my head. How far off the ground must the middle of that jet engine be?

Anyway, let me know where my thoughts have gone astray.

on edit: Guess I was right--yea me.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 11:07 AM
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47. No, that's how it looks when you write
I wrote garffiti for years in NYC, on basically any surface there was. That's what it looks like when you write big tags like that, especially if you know what you're doing. The smoothness of it is actually the control exerted by the writer (paint control). If you're using non-standard caps for aerosol spray paint (the caps that come with the can are too thin, usually), you have to control your distance and speed to get good lines. It's not too smooth. It's precisely what tagging looks like when you see someone who knows what he's doing do it.

That said, the video is apparently fake, but the tag is no doubt real. Someone wrote "Still Free" on something, just not AF1, apparently.
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kitkat65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 11:44 AM
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52. Fake or not, it's brilliant.
To say it's fake if it isn't, is even more briliant. Why? Because to go after Ecko if he actually did it would expose the weakness of the POTUS' security detail. We're supposed to believe POTUS can protect us if he can't protect his own plane?

Not only that but to try to prosecute him for this only gets Ecko's message out to even more people, with many perhaps agreeing with him.
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Twist_U_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 03:58 PM
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54. According to BoingBoing its a fake
Excellent faked video:

www.boingboing.net

Air Force One tagged with spray paint
This video is fake. But it looks convincing to me. It shows Marc Ecko tagging the US President's Air Force One jet with the words "Still Free." Link (Thanks, Bill!)

http://www.stillfree.com/
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