Why the FUCK do "progressives" think an abortion is a tragedy? (Rant)

[Inkdrinker]

I am fucking sick and tired of so-called progressives who claim "I support a woman's right to choose, but am personally opposed to abortions". Now, I will begin by giving them credit for not trying to impose their views like the anti-choice crowd does. This rant is about a specific grievance, but in no way am I implying the anti-choice crowd is off the hook. However... FUCK YOU!

Yes, fuck you. That is how I express my righteous anger and this is why I feel it. You're basically telling women "I support your right to do something that is wrong." This would be fine, except ABORTION IS A HUMAN RIGHT. What is that? You heard me, A HUMAN RIGHT. If people don't have a right to control their bodies, they're not free. Period. To deny someone of an abortion under ANY circumstance is to deny them of basic human freedom and dignity. Also, to characterize their freedom as "wrong" is to say they are inferior beings. Why is it that a WOMAN'S freedom is "wrong" (even if you support it in law) but a man's freedom is not? This is akin to second class citizenship.

So to all who think abortion is wrong yet support it, you're basically saying "The fact that women are free is wrong, but I'll still support it." It's the same thing as closet-racists who think having blacks in schools is "wrong" but support it because of principle. You're not as bad as a KKK member, but you're still a fucking racist. The progressives who think the act of an abortion is wrong are not as bad as the anti-choice crowd, but they're still fucking cavemen who do not think women are equal.

When I hear of an abortion I am happy. Happy that some woman made use of her freedom. Would you say "I am against free speech, but I support your right to use it"? I bet you if you posted THAT statement on DU or any other progressive forum, you'd get flamed and laughed at. Yet people post the same thing about a woman's right to do what she wants with her body and they get no challenge. WELL THAT'S OVER. I may be new to DU, but I am not going to take this shit. I'd go into the hypocrites who are against "Partial-birth" abortion... but that's another rant. Just remember, a right to choose abortions is not enough. If we can choose abortions, but still have to put up with the social punishment of men thinking it's "wrong" to abort, THERE IS NO FREEDOM. There's ways to squash freedom aside from fucked-up laws passed by legislatures or rulings of the court. Remember that. When you make women feel like shit due to their abortions, even if you support them in the legal sense, you're suppressing freedom.

Thank you, I hope this shines some light on the damage these so called "pro-choice" progressives cause. If women are to be equal to men, they must be able to not only CHOOSE abortion, but to HAVE an abortion without anyone thinking it's wrong. Because it's not.

[Tesha]

1. Not all of us do.

(Sorry to ruin a good rant. ;) I take your point, honestly.)

Tesha

[Inkdrinker]

8. Well, this rant is only for those who do.

True pro-FREEDOM progressives... I have no problem with them. :)

[wordpix2]

9. here's one who approves abortions for any and all reasons---personal,

financial, environmental, whatever. Just DO IT if you want or need to. Keep it to yourself or shout it out. I support your choice.

[wuushew]

2. You mean like Hillary Clinton

she says a lot of shit like that.

[Tesha]

7. Somebody told her "It's what you say to win elections."

So she says it.

Tesha

[Deep13]

3. This is the thought police. Come out with your hands up!

:evilfrown:

[Teaser]

4. Well fuck you too.

and welcome to DU.

[ronnykmarshall]

12. I'll second that.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

5. Good rant. I agree.

[crispini]

6. Voltaire

"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."

[Inkdrinker]

10. My point is...

.. That in the case of abortion, you are squashing freedom by condeming abortions, even if you support them in law. Sure, you may support the legal right to choose, but you still submit women to feeling like shit for doing something that is "wrong". Men do not need to put up with that shit.

[Lerkfish]

11. wow. where to start? I'll just start with simple:

I don't know if you've ever known anyone who had an abortion. I have known a few. Everyone I've known says it was a difficult decision. Something happened in her life that put them to the point of that decision. My first wife was raped at knifepoint and ended up pregnant. Another person I knew was a college student, with no real money or desire to abruptly end her career.

I would call those situations tragic, in that it a birth that was unwanted.

If that means you think less of me, er...ok. but I was there to see the emotional turmoil involved in those decisions, and I consider that not something that is wonderful, but something that I want to be available for any woman.

not sure why that bothers you?

[Ilsa]

13. I think the real tragedy is in the failure of birth control, or access

to it, or knowledge of how to properly use it. And that extends to having birth control for men also, that doesn't affect their pleasure. Having to endure medical procedures unnecessarily is a tragedy.

[amitten]

14. It's simple: Some believe that a fetus is a human life. Hence

the "wrongness" of abortion. That is at the crux of this argument. Not women vs. men or human rights vs. oppression. It's that some people feel that a fetus is a human life with equal value of an already-born baby.

This is a true moral dilemma for many. They do not deserve your hatred.

[Midlodemocrat]

15. Locking.

The OP is no longer with us.

Thank you.

DU Moderator.