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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 09:28 AM
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Poll question: Would you vote for Hillary if she was the democratic nom?
Let's get past the Hillary bashing and be realistic. If you had to choose her between her or some repuke nominee, would you vote for her?
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 09:30 AM
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1. Sure
I would not be very happy, but I would vote for her.
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shenmue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 09:30 AM
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2. I would really rather...
a different Dem. candidate, but if she's what we get, I'll prefer her over some Repub.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 09:30 AM
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3. yes, but I would also hate for those to be my only two choices.
Edited on Tue Apr-11-06 09:31 AM by Lerkfish
because that would be a losing ticket.

however, I wish this poll didn't reinforce a mistaken notion that objecting to her as a nominee is the same as voting republican.
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 09:33 AM
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4. I will not vote for ANYONE who supported the IWR and occupation...
...of Iraq, including Hillary Clinton.
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sharp_stick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 09:33 AM
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5. Over a repuke yes
I would vote for satan over a republican if I had to but I think the red one is registered repub so that probably won't happen.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 09:45 AM
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13. And that's why the Democrats keep handing you ever-worse candidates. NT
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etherealtruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 09:34 AM
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6. I will vote for the DEM candidate (eom)
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 09:34 AM
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7. Of course I will, but we will lose. Badly. nt
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HamdenRice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 09:34 AM
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8. The day she is nominated is the day I switch to Green Party nt
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Ready4Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 09:36 AM
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9. I vote for whichever candidate I feel is best for the USA.
So I can't say I'd vote for Hillary in a vacuum of who her opponent would be.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 09:48 AM
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17. is there someone that the republicans are running you think
would be better than a Demeven if it was Hillary? I honestly can't. :shrug:
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Ready4Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 11:11 AM
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34. No Repubs come to mind.
I actually like Hillary, btw. I think she has many positive attributes. And were she up against a Dubya clone she'd definitely get my vote. But I don't see her as being ideal.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 11:17 AM
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38. agree, she's not ideal
but I'd take her over McCain, Frist, Gingrich, Romney etc. anyday. :hi:
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 09:36 AM
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10. IF LEIBERMAN WAS THE DEMOCRATIC NOM WOULD YOU VOTE FOR HIM?
"If you had to choose her between HIM or some repuke nominee, would you vote for him?"

I refuse to participate in this poll.... which is along the same vein as yours.........

2006 baby...2006



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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 09:37 AM
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11. So far 27% will vote to help the republican candidate
either directly or indirectly. Lets hope conservative republicans do the same if a moderate republican is nominated.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 09:47 AM
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15. If the Democratic big-wigs were smart, they'd take this message...
If the Democratic big-wigs were smart, they'd take this message
and do something with it. Wanna make any bets on how smart they
are?

Instead, they'll just blame unfaithful democrats (little-D)
when their chosen idiot loses.

Tesha
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 09:51 AM
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21. Well, running a losing candidate will also hand it to the republican.
so you should figure that in with the rest of your snark.

Ms. Clinton will lose if she runs. That's the political reality. She is too reviled by right wingers to get enough crossover votes and only tepidly approved by left leaning antiwar dems. That leaves ONLY "centrist" and right leaning dems, which is not enough to elect her.
also, just like the gay marriage amendment got repubs out in droves to vote, too many of them Really, really hate Ms. Clinton so you can be sure repub voting percentages will be higher.

I'm sorry to disappoint, but I will always vote for the democrat but I also think pushing Ms. Clinton as our nominee is going to be disastrous.


and, further, I frankly do not appreciate the implication that unless we fully support one nominee without question before the primary, we are agents of republicans.

I can tell you where to shove that notion, if you'd like.
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 11:56 AM
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43. Good on ya!!!
Perceptive and spot on accurate.
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 10:00 AM
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25. Would you rather I didn't vote at all?
At this point in time, given a choice between Clinton and an unnamed Republican, my only choice in good conscience would be either "Other" or "None of the above." Which would help the Republicans the least?
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 09:43 AM
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12. Absolutely. I'd vote for her, Kerry, Biden, anyone but another repuke
Any Democrat in the WH would be a godsend at this time. Any Democrat, even Lieberman, would be a thousand times better than the most acceptable Republican, if there is such a thing.

BTW, Hillary would make a fine president, IMO, so it's not like it would be tough for me to support her.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 09:46 AM
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14. yes n/t
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 09:47 AM
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16. I'd vote for Wiley Coyote if he's the Dem candidate, it really doesn't
Edited on Tue Apr-11-06 09:48 AM by AZDemDist6
matter who wins the nomination. I'll vote for whoever is the top of the Democratic ticket.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 09:52 AM
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22. I'd prefer the RoadRunner


But I'd vote for either,too. :hi:
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 10:17 AM
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27. ROFL, now you're getting picky hehehhe n/t
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 09:48 AM
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18. The question is not whether or not I would vote for her, but would
her candidacy make people who are not DU'ers (people who normally don't vote or who only vote when they get excited about something) WANT to vote for her? I don't think so.
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 09:50 AM
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19. I might be too busy to vote....
...what with the monkeys flying out of my butt and all.

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genie_weenie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 09:50 AM
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20. Yes. Of course is she going to want to run?
But will she want to be President? She would if victorious be the President who is left with the thankless task of bringing the troops home. And let's not forget, if a WOMAN president does that, it will set the table back on women in the white House by 25 years. Because people will interpret her actions thusly, If Hillary, that ferocious bee-otch can't stomach the hard decisions of war, what woman can?

Who wants to inherit *'s messes is the real question?
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 09:57 AM
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23. Who are the 18 who would vote "other"?????
Third party only hurts Democrats and I'd think we would have learned that lesson by now. I can't say I'm a huge fan of Hillary's, but I'll vote for her to get these lying, scheming repugs out of office - really have no choice.

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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 10:18 AM
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28. Republicans.
Hillary is not my ideal candiate by any means. But I'm a Yellow Dog Democrat.
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 11:25 AM
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40. And that, sadly, is the whole point...
Edited on Tue Apr-11-06 11:26 AM by Hell Hath No Fury
of the "kingmakers" of the Democratic party -- give Democrats no real choice. Hillary or the GOP Devil. Not much of a genuine choice, imo.

I'm 46 years old -- I have been a member of the Democratic party and a voter since I was 18.

At some point you become tired of the blackmail and of voting for the lesser of the two evils -- instead, you crave the freedom to vote for the person you truly feel would make the best choice for your country.

I have said it here before: 2008 is my "tough love" year for the Democrats. Either we get a candidate that is forward thinking and willing to stand up for what is right or I will be forced to write in the Democratic candidate of my choice.

I can't keep voting for the person with the "D" after their name if they do not reflect the values and goals I think are best for our country. I just can't do it anymore and live with myself.
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chaumont58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 10:00 AM
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24. I don't believe any of the no votes
Every party has dumb people, but I just can't believe an air breathing Democrat is going to vote against(or sit at home on election day) if the nominee is Hilary Clinton. It sounds like something one would read on Newsmax.com.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 11:17 AM
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37. I'm not dumb - quite the opposite.
See, in my purplish-red state, if she's the nominee, she'll lose by more than 20 percentage points, so I might as well write-in the best choice who isn't on the ticket. It won't make one hill of beans difference to the electoral college vote in my state (if she's the nominee). Now, if some other Dem - like Clark or Warner (whom I'm tepid at best about) or Feingold is the nominee - they might actually FLIP my red state to blue, so I'll drop my hat in that bucket.

It's not misogyny, either. It's just that it's Hillary Clinton. Any other woman might have a better chance.
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itzamirakul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 10:09 AM
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26. I cannot support ex-Goldwater Girl and DINO Hillary Clinton...
I supported her and voted for her to become my Senator and I am so sorry that I did. She leans way to far right for me. I can NEVER support her again.
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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 10:30 AM
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29. No, I will wrap myself in ideological purity ...
secure that I am, indeed, more progressive than thou; and will proceed to piss my vote away on some no-hope third party candidate. Shit, that worked great in 2000, didn't it?
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iconoclastNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 11:05 AM
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30. I'm done with the party if the DLC and party elite crown her
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 11:08 AM
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31. I reject the premise of your poll.
Hillary Clinton won't win the nomination. Cindy Sheehan has a better chance than she does.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 01:40 PM
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48. If you truly think Cindy Sheehan has a better chance than Hillary at
winning the nomination, then I have a little chunk of land on the side of a cliff you might be interested in buying for a small fortune!
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 01:52 PM
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50. It was an exaggeration, but not entirely off base.
I you won't acknowledge that, then you're being dishonest.
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iconoclastNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 11:08 AM
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32. Any and all criticism is Hillary bashing!
Right.

Hillary would be the leader of our party, the Repuke nominee would not.

I don't want Hillary as the leader of our party. She's a DINO, the ultimate insider, and a corporate and big money sycophant.

I'm torn wheter my 2008 involement is better spent assisting a "(Insert real democrat here) 2008" or a "Stop Hillary 2008" campaign.

The DLC had thier "Anybody but Dean 2004" campaign, so why shoudln't the people have thier "Anyone but DLC" campaign?
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 11:10 AM
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33. No - because it wouldn't do any good in my state.
She'd lose my state by about 20 percentage points or more. And my state is turning purple right now (we have a Dem governor and a Dem state House).
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Sammy Pepys Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 11:11 AM
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35. Depends on some things....
Who her running mate is.

The status of Congress.

Who is running for the Reps.

Her platform.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 11:14 AM
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36. Yes, but . . .

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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 11:20 AM
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39. When November 08 comes I'll be casting a vote for the Democratic ticket
even if my first choice of candidates is not the nominee.

I'm in a line that believes that the Republicans need to be spanked and spanked hard and spanked in as many states as possible. I'll be volunteering time and cash to help that get done.

My personal preferences for how the party should be run, or how the universe should be run, often run contrary to how things actually are. Senator Clinton isn't my first choice. But against the likely GOP field, I am reminded that she is intelligent, accomplished, perceptive, and well-aligned. She gleams next to THE CAT BUTCHER, sell-out McCain, impudent Romney, cement-head Allen, smarmy Giuliani, pathetic Pataki, walking dildo Bill Owen, mental case Sam Brown, and deep-fried Machiavelli Haley Barbour, and so on down the list.

Yeah. If she's our nominee, she's got my vote.

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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 11:38 AM
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41. A POX ON YOUR HOUSE.
To anyone who would vote other rather than support HRC should she be nominated.

I am no great fan, and I would probably vote for someone else during a primary. BUT I will VOTE for any Democrat my party stand ups in November against any republican.

Greens and true Naderites are welcome to vote for the candidate, but a vote against HRC for any other reason than you love your guy and honestly think they would do a better job than HRC, is simply asinine and politically immature.

Its folks like you, continually in protest mode, continually post that cost us serious voes in the last general two general elections and are as responsible as Diebold for giving us the idiot in the White House.

You are than welcome to vote your conscience. That is your God-given right. But I have little use for folks who in the name of protesting Democratic leadership will vote for an also-ran in a state where every vote is critical.

Before you flame...Listen to what I said.. I have not problem with Green Voters and Naderites voting for their guys because they like what they have to say. It is only the Dems out there who vote for also-rans because they disagree with the nominee on minor points.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 11:39 AM
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42. Very reluctantly...
My husband, a good Dem, says he won't.
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Beelzebud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 11:57 AM
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44. I'd hold my nose, and vote for her, but that would end my support
for the national democratic party.

I would vote for her because she would be better than another neo-con.

But I'm hoping for more from my party...
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Strawman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 12:10 PM
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45. Yes
Edited on Tue Apr-11-06 12:47 PM by Strawman
Not my first choice, probably not my second or third, but we could do a whole lot worse than a Hillary Clinton presidency. That would be a welcome problem. I'm open to the possibility that her Presidency could attempt to complete the unfinished progressive work of the first two years of the Clinton presidency rather than the Dick Morris crap.

Is there a scenario where I might not vote for Hillary, yeah but that's not likely.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 12:13 PM
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46. I'll be voting for the candidate that best represents my beliefs.
That eliminates any Republican imaginable and some Democrats..particularly one's who voted for the war in Iraq.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 12:14 PM
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47. hell yes!!!
The only alternative is a Republican at that point.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 01:48 PM
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49.  30% of DUers would rather have nutcase John McCain as president.
:eyes:
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 01:53 PM
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51. Why not? She might be the best chance we have at winning right now
The fact she leads the polls as top Democratic contender tells you two things:

She's a hell of a lot better than what most people on this forum give her credit for, and

The rest of our list of candidates is nothing to write home to mama about.

Until someone else comes out of the woodwork who can wow us all, Hillary it will be, like her or not. It's not her fault our field of Democratic contenders is subpar at best.
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 01:56 PM
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52. Yes (grudgingly) . . .
Then again, I'd choose a plant stand over any Big Business/PNAC Repuke.

Another "lesser of two evils". I hope to ZOD she isn't the nominee. She won't turn one damned current Red state.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 02:01 PM
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53. very reluctantly
Edited on Tue Apr-11-06 02:01 PM by alyce douglas
I would not vote for Clinton, I would rather vote for Feingold if he was running.
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 02:03 PM
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54. Oh, hell yeah on Feingold.
He at least attempts to care about the little guy and the rights of citizens.
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SheWhoMustBeObeyed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 02:22 PM
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55. Yes, because I'm the base.
The base supports the party. That's what the base does.

Does the party take the base for granted? Yes.

Does the party alienate some portions of the base? Yes. But those portions are no longer the base.

Those who won't support the party's nominee can call me a DINO, a DLCer or whatever the fuck else makes them happy. But if you won't support the party, STOP CALLING YOURSELF THE BASE.

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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 02:25 PM
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56. if she is the nominee, yes.
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Dhampir Kampf Donating Member (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 02:28 PM
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57. Over a repuke, yes. Over Gore/Feingold/warner/edwards? No. nt
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