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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 06:30 PM
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Sy Hersh next up on Hardball --IraN
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 06:31 PM
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1. This morning there seemed to be confusion over what Sy had written so
I hope he clears it up (or the reporting was bad as he had corrected Soludad O'brien this morning ).
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 06:32 PM
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2. This morning he had said that some military people would resign if nuc-
lears weapons were not taken out of the equation in dealing with Iran.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 06:33 PM
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4. still waiting-Quick news report now.
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sheelz Donating Member (869 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 06:35 PM
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5. Why is there confusion over that?
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 06:33 PM
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3. Thank you!
I think he has EVERYONE'S attention with his latest bombshell! It's about time!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 06:35 PM
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6. first showing a clip of Bush saying he declassified docs. guess this
story is first.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 06:36 PM
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7. saying that Bush only spoke 'broadly' this morning. No details.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 06:38 PM
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8. saying that Bush or anyone can talk anytime they want-the excuse that
there is a legal case going on is bugus!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 06:39 PM
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9. Shuster saying bush credibility will suffer more if he does not come clean
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 06:40 PM
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10. sy on now.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 06:41 PM
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12. saying the military does not want nuclear weapons in the plans but WH
wants to keep the option on the table.
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 06:40 PM
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11. thanks...watching
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 06:41 PM
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13. says again the Sr. Military do NOT want nukes in the option plans.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 06:42 PM
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14. talking of two lines set up by Bush that Iran can not cross.
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 06:42 PM
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15. OK-now Sr Military need to shout this from the rooftops!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 06:45 PM
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18. Sy said they will be going to WH to talk to Bush soon (no date given)
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 06:52 PM
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19. That appears to be our drop-dead date (no pun intended)
If nukes are NOT taken off the table and that point, then it's time to start packing the bags and heading for the remote areas.

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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 06:44 PM
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16. US est for Iran nuke is 8-10 years.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 06:44 PM
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17. says the real agenda is Regime change!
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 06:54 PM
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20. Sy Hersh is a patriot... Check this oldie out>>>>>>
Edited on Mon Apr-10-06 06:57 PM by Hubert Flottz
MOVING TARGETS

Will the counter-insurgency plan in Iraq repeat the mistakes of Vietnam?

by SEYMOUR M. HERSH
Issue of 2003-12-15
Posted 2003-12-08

The Bush Administration has authorized a major escalation of the Special Forces covert war in Iraq. In interviews over the past month, American officials and former officials said that the main target was a hard-core group of Baathists who are believed to be behind much of the underground insurgency against the soldiers of the United States and its allies. A new Special Forces group, designated Task Force 121, has been assembled from Army Delta Force members, Navy seals, and C.I.A. paramilitary operatives, with many additional personnel ordered to report by January. Its highest priority is the neutralization of the Baathist insurgents, by capture or assassination.

The revitalized Special Forces mission is a policy victory for Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, who has struggled for two years to get the military leadership to accept the strategy of what he calls “Manhunts”—a phrase that he has used both publicly and in internal Pentagon communications. Rumsfeld has had to change much of the Pentagon’s leadership to get his way. “Knocking off two regimes allows us to do extraordinary things,” a Pentagon adviser told me, referring to Afghanistan and Iraq.

One step the Pentagon took was to seek active and secret help in the war against the Iraqi insurgency from Israel, America’s closest ally in the Middle East. According to American and Israeli military and intelligence officials, Israeli commandos and intelligence units have been working closely with their American counterparts at the Special Forces training base at Fort Bragg, North Carolina, and in Israel to help them prepare for operations in Iraq. Israeli commandos are expected to serve as ad-hoc advisers—again, in secret—when full-field operations begin. (Neither the Pentagon nor Israeli diplomats would comment. “No one wants to talk about this,” an Israeli official told me. “It’s incendiary. Both governments have decided at the highest level that it is in their interests to keep a low profile on U.S.-Israeli coöperation” on Iraq.) The critical issue, American and Israeli officials agree, is intelligence. There is much debate about whether targeting a large number of individuals is a practical—or politically effective—way to bring about stability in Iraq, especially given the frequent failure of American forces to obtain consistent and reliable information there.

Americans in the field are trying to solve that problem by developing a new source of information: they plan to assemble teams drawn from the upper ranks of the old Iraqi intelligence services and train them to penetrate the insurgency. The idea is for the infiltrators to provide information about individual insurgents for the Americans to act on. A former C.I.A. station chief described the strategy in simple terms: “U.S. shooters and Iraqi intelligence.” He added, “There are Iraqis in the intelligence business who have a better idea, and we’re tapping into them. We have to resuscitate Iraqi intelligence, holding our nose, and have Delta and agency shooters break down doors and take them”—the insurgents—“out.” MORE................

http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/?031215fa_fact

SEYMOUR M. HERSH is a major burr under the neocon's saddle! They'd LOVE to shut him up, or to make him just go away, like they tried to make Joe Wilson, Just Go Away! Anyone who don't go along with Bush, is some kind of evil, crazy, nutcase, to hear the GOP tell it, but you see who the REAL, Crazy, Evil, Nutcases are now! The entire country is starting to see Bush for what he is.

Bush's Playing politics, to the point of causing wars where thousands suffer and die, is insanity! Maybe even causing an unstoppable war in the end, so BUSH CAN WIN? So the GOP can WIN? Look how many Americans have LOST in Iraq, so the neocons could win politically... Look how much it has cost America, to support this egomaniacal WAR President. Will your kids be the next to die, so the GOP can win in November?





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WyLoochka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 09:34 PM
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21. rodeodance - I appreciate
your doing these one liner follow alongs, as I don't have a teevee. I have for a long time and realized I had never told you. Thanks so much. :loveya:
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