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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 06:06 PM
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Did they out Plame because SHE knew too much?
Did they out Plame because SHE knew too much?
dKos diarist clammyc reminds us of some important context to the Iran war drumming:

With all this talk about how dangerous Iran is and how they are THIS CLOSE to getting nook-you-lur weapons and must be stopped, let's not forget that Valerie Plame and her colleagues were tracking distribution and acquisition of weapons of mass destruction technology to and from Iran.

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What if it wasn't an accident? What if they outed her not (or not just) to get at her husband, but to get at her?

Think about the demonstrated disdain of Bush and Cheney for any and all intel that contradicted their preordained conclusions about Iraq. Then think about the neocon arrogance that then, as now, targeted Iran as next on their regime change to-do list.

In that context, Valerie Plame's knowledge of what was really going on in the WMD arena did not make her an asset -- it made her a very dangerous woman. When Joe Wilson went public with the truth about the way the Administration cooked the books on Iraq, the Administration must have been concerned that Valerie Plame would do the same when they turned their guns toward Iran.

What if they wanted us to think that their purpose was to smack Joe Wilson, but only as a smokescreen for their next Crusade? Maybe I'm overly impressed with Karl Rove's legendary ability to think five moves ahead, but he loves these kinds of two-birds-one-stone stunts.

Tin foil hat, anyone?
http://bluememe.blogspot.com/2006/04/did-they-out-plame-because-she-knew.html

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electropop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 06:07 PM
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1. DUers have said for some time now that she was getting close
to Cheney's dirty dealings in nuclear materials in the region, and had to be stopped.
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Sequoia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 06:12 PM
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3. Ah, those Uppity Women...
always getting in the way of the man folks a doing their work. Politics are for men baby, now get back in the kitchen and throw another log on the fire.
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cushla_machree Donating Member (419 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 09:16 PM
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21. i don't get it
then outing her should have had her bring it all out in the open. nothing to lose then.
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 06:10 PM
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2. Rove at work? Has he made it look like it was about Wilson
when it was really about outing Plame and her team all along?
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 06:12 PM
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4. No, they outted Brewster-Jennings because they knew too much.
Plame was just the excuse.
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bostonbabs Donating Member (465 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 06:22 PM
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7. I agree
....the stakes seem too high to get "a wife"....what the wife was doing and what she was finding out was important ..I do believe and have always believed that they wanted Brewster/Jennings who was investigating Weapons of mass destruction in IRAN.. out of the way.
And the recent "White HOUSE aid"....who said that the leak was "pure revenge"...they want us to believe that ...that it was just revenge instead of getting Brewster out of the way in IRAN.
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 08:53 PM
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19. "Bad Political Policy" rather than a plot to lie the American
People into war and kill thousands as "collateral damage" to enrich the cronies.
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serryjw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 10:18 PM
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24. I'll 3rd that
Discredit Wilson concerning their intention, eliminate Plame and ruin Brewster Jennings...WOW! A triple header :bounce:
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 06:14 PM
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5. No tin foil here imo. They considered this a 'two-fer'! nt
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 06:21 PM
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6. You may find the following of interest:
From 13 February 2006:

"If Cheney & Co. outed one of the key intelligence operations monitoring the inputs and outputs of Iran's nuclear program -- then Cheney & Co. did vast damage to our ability to know what is real and contrived inside Iran.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=403473



George W. Bush willfully violated National Security to cover-up his willful launch of a war of aggression and illegal occupation of Iraq.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 06:42 PM
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10. I hope Fitz has the authority to connect these dots; I'll wait! nt
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 06:43 PM
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12. I do, as well.
Peace.
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 06:42 PM
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11. And this link:
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FloridaPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 06:23 PM
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8. There was an article a while back which pointed out her group
keep track of IRAN's nuclear material. Sure comes in handy now - no one to tell anyone how much a threat Iran really is. Some coincidence huh? Right. Kill 2 countries with one outing.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 06:28 PM
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9. DUer Larisa from RawStory wrote about this in Feb., here:
Edited on Fri Apr-07-06 06:41 PM by babylonsister
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2005/Outed_CIA_officer_was_working_on_0213.html



Outed CIA officer was working on Iran, intelligence sources say

Larisa Alexandrovna
Published: February 13, 2006

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IranThe unmasking of covert CIA officer Valerie Plame Wilson by White House officials in 2003 caused significant damage to U.S. national security and its ability to counter nuclear proliferation abroad, RAW STORY has learned.

According to current and former intelligence officials, Plame Wilson, who worked on the clandestine side of the CIA in the Directorate of Operations as a non-official cover (NOC) officer, was part of an operation tracking distribution and acquisition of weapons of mass destruction technology to and from Iran.

Speaking under strict confidentiality, intelligence officials revealed heretofore unreported elements of Plame's work. Their accounts suggest that Plame's outing was more serious than has previously been reported and carries grave implications for U.S. national security and its ability to monitor Iran's burgeoning nuclear program.
more...
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Sinti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 06:47 PM
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13. No tinfoil hat required
It actually makes perfect sense.

There is a Related thread here: Serious request. Framing upgrade.. Brewster-Jennings vs revenge
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x874757#875555
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 06:49 PM
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14. YES - AMERICAN JUDAS


Dick Cheney exposed Valerie Plame to cover up his association with A.Q. Khan's Nuclear Walmart. Read about it here: http://s93118771.onlinehome.us/DU/AMERICANJUDAS.pdf or http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2178477#2180220
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 06:52 PM
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15. Plame buffs are having a field day, our ideas and knowledge is
getting out there beyond DU now. I feel that the season is turning, our dawn is just below the horizon.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 06:58 PM
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18. It will be 2 years since we were first talking about this at DU
A long, very long 2 years
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Jigarotta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 06:56 PM
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16. connections
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0413-02.htm

New Reports on U.S. Planting WMDs in Iraq

BASRA -– Fifty days after the first reports that the U.S. forces were unloading weapons of mass destruction (WMD) in southern Iraq, new reports about the movement of these weapons have been disclosed.

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Trish1168 Donating Member (371 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 06:58 PM
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17. This has been my hypothesis all along
I always thought it was more about her.
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kohodog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 09:06 PM
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20. kpete, thanks for all your work
I've been too busy to do much more than observe, but you have been posting great posts. All the bruhahaa lately ignores the actual leak of an undercover agent working on wmd. Bushco has had to minimize her importance to make this go away, and today's news tries to keep the cover going by pushing it to the national security estimate, staying far away from Plame. If the crooks in t
the White House are ever brought to justice we might learn more.

Again, thanks for your work in this and many other issues.
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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 09:38 PM
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22. you are welcome
and good night...
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 09:44 PM
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23. I never bought "revenge against Joe". It was about Plame/BrewsterJennings
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