We use to call them SCABS AND UNION BUSTERS

[TrueAmerican]

Now if we call them that we are called RACIST. :shrug:

Unions have fought hard for living wages, benefits, and a safe work place. Now they are suppose to step aside for a group of people who are helping to destroy that. If these people want a better life, they need to stay and fight in their own country. They need to rise up in THEIR own country. They need to carry THEIR flag in THEIR own country.

Until they do that, they are nothing more than UNION BUSTERS/SCABS.

[Cobalt Violet]

1. I remember the olden days.

"Health-care plans, retirement benefits, vacations, work rules, holidays, overtime pay, working conditions and job security, as well as hourly wages".

[Warpy]

2. Scabs and union busters were imported by the grandparents

of today's CHEAP LABOR CONSERVATIVES.

Illegal immigrants breaking their backs for starvation wages are a symptom.

CHEAP LABOR CONSERVATISM is the disease.

Frame it this way and win. Attack illegals and lose.

[spindrifter]

3. I don't think the unions need to be brought

into this. Remember Cesar Chavez?
It is conservative management that is breaking the balls of the unions. They have been on that campaign for more than 30 years, winning more and more each year.

[QC]

14. "Remember Cesar Chavez?"

Do you know what was his position on illegal immigration?

[IsItJustMe]

4. CHEAP LABOR CONSERVATIVES and PREDATORY EMPLOYERS.

[Union Thug]

5. Well, you need to punish the employers, not the workers...

Immigrants are our allies.

My feeling is that if an employer hires an illegal alien, that employer goes to jail...the real deal; prison time with the big boys. No exceptions.

And, screw it, lets make these mandatory minimum sentences while we're at it. Fuck 'em.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

8. But that would end the practice immediately.

And would require the stroke of a pen and minimal enforcement.

I think an expensive, gigantic wall would be a better solution.

[in_cog_ni_to]

16. YES! The problem would be gone IN A DAY.

Hiring illegal immigrants would stop in a blink of an eye!

[acmejack]

6. Sing it from the rooftops CHEAP LABOR CONSERVATIVES!

Shout it from the streets PREDATORY EMPLOYERS!

[Joe Fields]

7. If the UAW gets busted, that's it for unions in America

[RagingInMiami]

9. I thought it was Reagan and big business who destroyed unions

Not Mexicans.

[Cleita]

11. Read my post below yours. n/t

[Cleita]

10. The real union busters are the corporations, politicians

and lawyers who set out to do just that. Ann Coulter's father is a lawyer who made a career busting unions. Scabs are hired by the above to undermine a strike. Let's put the blame where it belongs.

The biggest union buster of the last century was President Ronald Reagan when he fired all the airport air controllers when their union went on strike. All new non-union controllers got hired. Amazingly, non of them were undocumented workers but Americans like you. The union controllers never went back to work under the union.

Do a google an read up on the history.

[RagingInMiami]

12. Good post

[Bozita]

17. and then the new ATCs started bitching about the same stuff that PATCO ...

... was fighting over.

Reagan became an instant god to the anti-union crowd.

Firing PATCO solved no problems, but it did buy some time for Reagan. It took the new ATCs a while to build the courage to speak up.

[mike_c]

13. dude, I've been a union man and a labor supporter all my life...

...but I will not stand with you on that one. Solidarity. Don't turn on anyone working for a living. They're NOT your enemy.

[TrueAmerican]

18. I'm not against them

I support them to STAND UP in their own country and fight for a living wage. That is being for them, not against them.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

15. From A Purely Objective View, Of All The Reasonings Presented This Week On

DU, This is hands down the most ridiculous. As I said, I'm not even saying that out of passion for one side over the other, or due to any personal sway of the issue itself whatsoever. Just simply from a pure objective point of view, most ridiculous yet. Sorry.

[xchrom]

19. export the union ideal -- unionize those workers.

it's what we should have done all along as nations came more into the industrial world -- this is an old conversation.

ceasar chavez unionized illegals why can't the other unions?