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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 03:22 PM
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VICTORY --Keith Olbermann Beats CNN
Edited on Tue Mar-28-06 03:23 PM by kpete
Tuesday, Mar 28


In the first quarter of 2006, MSNBC's Countdown with Keith Olbermann beat CNN's Paula Zahn Now in the 25-54 demographic. "This marks MSNBC's first quarterly primetime victory over CNN in the demo in almost five years (2Q01 MSNBC Investigates beat CNN at 8 p.m. ET)," MSNBC's press release said today.

Countdown averaged 164,000 total viewers in the quarter, up 41% from Q1 2005. Zahn averaged 158,000 demo viewers (down 33 percent), according to MSNBC. Bill O'Reilly averaged 450,000 in the demo (down 24 percent).

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/ratings/q1_06_msnbc...
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LiberalVoice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 03:24 PM
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1. MSNBC whooped ass last quarter.
GOOD! The more people that watch it the more people will see KO.
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WatchWhatISay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 03:32 PM
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6. Don't give all of MSNBC credit, just KO
Chris Matthews and Joe Scarborough are only just now starting to "get it" but their loyalties will not change.
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 03:37 PM
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9. I ONLY watch KO!
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 04:52 PM
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29. I quit watching TV News a few years back but I have started watching KO
I was so sick of the insanity I could not take it any longer. I have seen two shows of KOs and I liked them. I will try a few more. I still refuse to even glance at any others...
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 09:13 PM
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50. Exactly! KO is the ONLY ONE!
If it were not for Keith Olberman, I would never watch MSNBC! Chris Matthews and Joe Scarborough are as bad as Faux News pundits.
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eyepaddle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 09:52 AM
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88. There's just someting about watching tweety though;
I can't stand him on a daily basis (we all know why) but when somehting big happens, I'll admit to tuning in tweety. It's fascinating to watch him shill for the right-wing in such a moronic fashion.

I'm not usually a rage-aholic, but when I need my dose of rage-ahol, I know Matthews has me covered!

And since I can't stomach ANY of Fox News, and want to jump into the TV and pummel Scarborough, Matthews is my only real alternative. ;)
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 03:26 PM
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2. Go Keith go!
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 11:38 PM
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58. Couldn't happen to a more talented guy! Love his show -- and
tonight, his interview with Michael Schiavo, prerecorded and played tonight, was excellent.

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drbtg1 Donating Member (932 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 08:10 AM
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76. That interview may have shown great disrespect to Mr. Olbermann
It should be noted that last night's interview was nearly two months old. It has been reported, albeit by a questionable source, that the delay was because of NBC in-office political bullshit.

From Loathsome Lloyd Grove's NY Daily News column of 2/8/06:

In August he was reamed out by MSNBC president Rick Kaplan for his perhaps too graphic commentary about Peter Jennings' death. But last week Olbermann was reamed out by a higher-ranking TV exec NBC News president Steve Capus over his long interview with famous widower Michael Schiavo.

Capus scorched Olbermann for stepping on a carefully orchestrated Matt Lauer-"Today" show-"Dateline NBC" exclusive. The Lauer package was pegged to Dutton's March 27 release of "Terri: The Truth," Schiavo's tell-all about his late wife's short life, lingering death and accompanying media circus.

I hear Capus calmed down when Olbermann assured him he didn't know about the previous deal, because he landed his interview through direct contacts, not Dutton, and Schiavo never informed him.

Capus last week let Olbermann air highlights in which the newly remarried Schiavo tears up and slams Republicans and President Bush for interfering. But MSNBC still didn't promote it outside the little-watched cable outlet. It will air an Olbermann-Schiavo special only after Lauer does his thing.



http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/389481p-330352c....
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 11:55 AM
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91. Sounds like a scheduling and booking spat more than a real fight.
Edited on Wed Mar-29-06 12:02 PM by Radio_Lady
Perhaps NBC isn't talking to MSNBC about a master booking schedule. This is an internal struggle.

Matt Lauer is certainly a higher-paid talent than Keith Olbermann, and Matt's shows are watched by more people. The network wants to insure it doesn't scoop itself. (I also saw Keith after Peter Jenning's death. What was there to complain about? Keith chose to show photos of a growth in his mouth which was removed, and vowed to QUIT SMOKING.)

Michael Schiavo appeared on CNN this week also, and not sure whether it was before or after Keith's interview aired.

These scraps go on all the time. I used to work with entertainment bookings at the NBC "Tonight" show. That was many years ago, before there were so many outlets. I'm sure it's a much more fierce struggle these days as everyone tries to book the same guests "first" and sometimes "exclusively."

By the way, Schiavo mentioned his new political website which looks interesting. I hope he becomes a spokesperson for death with dignity, unfettered by politics. IMHO, the right wing pro-life political zealots had no place in this situation last year.

Go to: http://www.terripac.com
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drbtg1 Donating Member (932 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 01:43 PM
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93. It sounds more like ego
I'm sure the battles go on, like Leno vs. Letterman, but this is NBC vs. MSNBC. Same company, same team. Or, at least, it should be the same team. Instead, the twits on the Today Show are doing crap like this or booking O'Reilly and ignoring (or even worse, disrespecting) Mr. Olbermann.

Sure, Lauer is a higher paid "talent" ("talent"! Now that's funny!), but they're all in the same company. Lauer isn't going anywhere, he's reached the peak. Thus, he could have recognized that he doesn't need the scoop and, since Mr. Olbermann got his interview through honest means, he could have shown the ability to be a team player. He still had the first network interview, but that wasn't good enough to feed the ego.

BTW, your time at the Tonight Show, was it before, during, or after Helen Kushnick?
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 12:19 AM
Response to Reply #93
101. I was there in the mid-1960s when Johnny Carson was still in NY.
Edited on Thu Mar-30-06 12:30 AM by Radio_Lady
I worked with his brother, Dick Carson, who was directing the program, and Skitch Henderson's group provided the music. Also worked in the news unit for a fellow named Gene ??? and God knows I've tried to recall his last name, but can't do it. I do remember the composer Robert Russell Bennett who composed the music for "Victory at Sea" -- he was a tall and elderly man and he called me ARIEL the water sprite. (He gave special names to all the production assistants in the unit.) Just a sweetheart of a man.

Looks as if Helen Kushnick was there in the 1970s with Jay Leno.

http://talkshows.about.com/library/weekly/aa051799.htm

By 1971, I was back in Florida working as an unpaid screener (answers called before they go on the air) on Larry King's 11 PM to 5 AM overnight show at WIOD. When Larry was arrested a few days before Christmas 1971, I took over his show. I was there until April 1972, when Boston beckoned and I started on WEEI Radio, a CBS owned and operated station, on May 15, 1972. First female with a full time talk radio show in Boston SIX days a week from 10 AM to 2 PM and then took care of my two small kids, ages 1 and 2, as I was a single mother divorced from their father.

Glad to do it!

In peace,

Radio_Lady
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drbtg1 Donating Member (932 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 08:31 AM
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103. Wow. You must have some amazing stories from that time.
Reading your post reminded me that you probably have the type of entertainment history recollections that Mark Evanier often has in his blog. Not at all tabloidy, but usually fond anecdotes and memories of sometimes big stars and also behind the scenes folks, with equal respect for all who deserved it.

Kushnick (from the 90's, not 70's) elevated booking between Leno and Arsenio Hall to a war, until Ken Kragen went public and NBC forced her out. This was recounted in Bill Carter's "The Late Shift" book (also a movie).
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 12:36 PM
Response to Reply #103
104. Yes, there are many stories! Several of them would get me in big
Edited on Thu Mar-30-06 12:54 PM by Radio_Lady
trouble at the DU -- !!!!

That was a typo -- I should have written the 90s -- hit the wrong key!

In peace,

Radio_Lady

ON EDIT: I should check out "The Late Shift" (1996) directed by Betty Thomas. It's been recommended to me before. Did you see the movie? Perhaps it's available on VHS (DVD listing is grayed out on the link below). Looks like Amazon has a bunch of copies if I really want it.

http://www.us.imdb.com/title/tt0116835 /



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drbtg1 Donating Member (932 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 02:53 PM
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105. The book and movie were both good
It was one case where the movie didn't lose much from the book (I think because Bill Carter was involved with the screenplay as well). The two actors playing Leno and Letterman start off being a distraction since the real hosts are so established in the psyche, but you learn to accept it since they aren't there for acting prowess but to move the plot along. Kathy Bates did a very convincing job as Kuchnick. And it was fun watching Rich Little do a role he's done for laughs so many times.

Every once in a while, I'll see it on one of the HBO channels, so you might catch it then.

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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 05:43 PM
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106. I'll try to find it. Thanks for the info.
Have a great weekend, when we get there!

In peace,

Radio_Lady

Oh, drbtg1, you have your profile disabled. I have no idea who you are! I guess you want it that way...

It's a little like talking to a priest through that one-way window.

"Bless me father, for I have sinned... :)" : :sarcasm::

Naw, I'm Jewish -- I think.
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drbtg1 Donating Member (932 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 11:55 PM
Response to Reply #106
108. Sorry about the profile being disabled
I'll PM the reason.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 03:26 PM
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3. yabba dappa dooooooooooooo
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 03:27 PM
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4. Why are there so many more viewers watching O'liely than
the TOTAL viewers of their competitors?

Do the freepers just not watch Prime Time TV? I can't think of another reason.
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EmperorHasNoClothes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 03:41 PM
Response to Reply #4
11. Because so many places have Fox on 24 hours a day
= instant ratings for any fox program
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 03:48 PM
Response to Reply #11
17. Really? Sure isn't anywhere I frequent!
I can't remember anywhere I've gone where they had FOX on the TV!
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 06:16 PM
Response to Reply #17
35. Its on EVERYWHERE here in deep dark red land
Its awful. All bars, grills, airports, waiting rooms, fucking EVERYWHERE
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CornField Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 09:49 PM
Response to Reply #35
52. TV Be Gone
http://www.tvbgone.com

(Although the company is called Cornfield, I have absolutely no affiliation with them. I just think it's the best invention since sliced bread.)
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Blue Gardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 05:24 AM
Response to Reply #35
72. It's on at my BANK!
I I live in a very liberal college town.
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stevebreeze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 06:14 AM
Response to Reply #72
73. And you are surprised that Fox is on at the true republican church?
there is nothing more worshiped at the head of the republican party then money and it's depositories.
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bookman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 12:33 AM
Response to Reply #17
64. On here in Texas...
..but occasionally I've noticed one or two changes to CNN.

( Nothing great, but a step in the right direction. )

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yorkiemommie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 09:20 AM
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87.  here in SoCal


Macy's had screens in the waiting areas of the women's fitting rooms. ALL the three screens had FOX on w/ a note on the bottom from management that FOX and a sports channel were the ONly channels allowed.

I fought Macy's to the top on this ( they claim they just want to provide public service ) and I ended up cancelling my credit cards and have boycotted them ever since.

I have been to a couple of restaurants here in SoCal, ( Black Angus is one ) where FOX was on in the bar and when I left I mentioned they should turn it off.
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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 10:17 PM
Response to Reply #4
56. Some cable companies do not offer MSNBC in their regular package
You have to get a premium package to get it.

MSNBC should FIX this.
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truthseeker1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 02:22 PM
Response to Reply #56
96. This is true with Fox too.
I was surprised (pleasantly surprised) when we moved recently and switched from DirecTV to DISH that we didn't get Fox news anymore.
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 03:39 AM
Response to Reply #4
67. It "Depends".....O'Lielly gets the geriatric crowd.......
(pun intended) who are more apt to be sitting in from of their TVs on any given night. Most of them can't get out of their chairs without assistance from the local fire department (hey I'm almost in that age group, I can use "old people" jokes ;) ). O'Lielly's share is dropping like a stone though, looks like even the senior citizens are fed up with his bullshit.

KO is hitting the right demographic, the one that spends the most money and THAT is a huge victory. Congratulations to KO, it's the only cable news show I ever watch and his share keeps growing! :party: :yourock: :party:
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drbtg1 Donating Member (932 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 08:14 AM
Response to Reply #67
78. The AVERAGE age of an O'Reilly viewer is approximately 68
That's average! This was noted on Mr. Olbermann's show.

I wonder if coffins are equiped with Neilsen boxes. ;)
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Fredda Weinberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 03:28 PM
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5. That's a hollow victory
Declare it when Olbermann plus CNN beats Fox.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 03:34 PM
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7. Have to start somewhere, right?
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 05:05 PM
Response to Reply #5
32. Not hollow - it is what it is: a marker of progress in the right
direction.
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Fredda Weinberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 09:59 PM
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55. Remember Donahue?
Don't get me wrong ... I enjoy Oddball as much as the next intellectual, but after Donahue was taken off the air I didn't want to see his replacement.

I think many of us misunderstand Olbermann - perhaps it's the time I spent around celebrities but I don't think we'd enjoy his company in real life ... and I don't think he'd be less critical if someone we supported were in office.
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 11:07 PM
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57. You seem to be rambling.
Is Olberman on a positive trend? Yes.

Is it aa victory? Yes.

Donahue doesn't detract from that. And I don't care if I'd like him in person.

Your comments about his success seem to be more about your personal feelings about him and the Donahue slot.
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Fredda Weinberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 12:18 AM
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60. No, it's about celebrating a phyrric victory
Or worse yet, none at all. When CNN or CNBC or anyone else but Fox beats Fox, I'll whoop with ya. Until then, I think you're idolizing someone who doesn't really share your sympathies.

Personal? I don't know the dude and frankly, wouldn't want to; celebrities have to be self-absorbed.
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 08:17 AM
Response to Reply #60
80. Then you don't know what a phyrric victory is.
And since all your posts on the matter reflect an obsession with Keith's personality rather than the actual issue, you certainly don't care.
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 08:23 AM
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81. You Seem To Misunderstand A Pyrrhic Victory
For it to be pyrrhic, it has to have no good outcome in the long term. This is not the case here. His ratings can still go up. O'Reilly's can still go down. So, i think you need to review the definition.
The Professor
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Fredda Weinberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 11:49 AM
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90. I understood perfectly
The thread's celebrating a "victory" 'cause MSNBC beat CNN in the 8 PM time slot. I'm pointing out that it's meaningless, because you should recognize that the "victor" would turn against our candidate should he/she prevail in the next election. Yeah, the long term prospects for Olbermann are meaningless.

Ah well ... if this is all you've got, enjoy it. But don't say I didn't warn you.

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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 12:09 AM
Response to Reply #5
59. Ts ts ts. Lighten up Fredda. nt
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Fredda Weinberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 12:23 AM
Response to Reply #59
61. Fine ... whoopdy doo!
I'm listening to Amy Goodman, remembering all the fundraisers I organized for Pacifica stations when they were under siege ... heck, I don't like her either!
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demswin06 Donating Member (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 06:01 PM
Response to Reply #5
107. yes,it will be a victory..
when KO beats the Giant Talking Head like the festering piece of pus that he is. :thumbsup: :kick:
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 03:36 PM
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8. so they'll be firing him soon, ala Donahue, especially when
the heat goes up to anschluss mit iran
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 08:25 AM
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82. Donahue never beat CNN
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 03:39 PM
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10. KO towing the line on truth! He deserves a medal!
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 03:47 AM
Response to Reply #10
68. I hate to be the one to do this....
but it's "toeing" the line, not "towing" the line. I don't mean to be rude, it's just one of those character flaws I have about the correct use of certain phrases. You're not alone in doing this, many people do the same thing but it drives me nuts. Maybe I need to get out more. Peace. :hippie:
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 12:12 PM
Response to Reply #68
92. Now how do you know I didn't mean towing? LOL
Edited on Wed Mar-29-06 12:24 PM by lonestarnot
Ok I stand corrected. Thanks. and peace... :hi: and P.S. I'm not into sports...hmfff. ie put your toe on the line, but into tug of war! tow (pull) the line.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 12:26 AM
Response to Reply #10
109. Hell Yeah He Does.
Edited on Sat Apr-01-06 12:27 AM by OPERATIONMINDCRIME
And I'm wondering if he should get the dozens of roses next! :)
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OrangeCountyDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 03:44 PM
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12. MSNBC.....On At 4:59 PM PST.....Off At 5:59 PM PST
Countdown is the only legitimate show on that network.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 03:44 PM
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13. O'Reilly probably helped him get attention - LOL.
Good for KO. Liberals do watch TV, when it's "quality."
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 03:47 PM
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14. K & R for KEITH!!! No wonder O'Liely is so sensitive about KO - he sees
Edited on Tue Mar-28-06 03:48 PM by Nothing Without Hope
the handwriting on the wall. O'Liely's demographics are on average 10 years OLDER compared to Keith's and more are tuning out all the time.

Don't miss Keith's reply to O'Liely's threats to use "Fox Security" on a man who dared to mention KO's name in a phone call. It's a classic:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 03:48 PM
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15. Go, Countdown!
:toast: :toast: :toast: :toast:

Isn't it great to have ONE smart, funny host reporting actual NEWS?

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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 03:48 PM
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16. Cool for Keith. Too bad I cancelled cable last week.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 03:51 PM
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18. CNN down
Fox to go.

Go get 'em, KO! :applause:
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 03:56 PM
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19. I hope someone there is paying attention
LARGEST audience...liberal programming

just like when Donahue was there..

they simply cannot claim that there is NO audience for liberal programming.. (unless they are lying again)
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 03:55 AM
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69. I don't know about "liberal" programming....
certainly "truthful" programming. KO has a short tolerance for hypocrisy and the Republican party is up to it's ears in it. If Democrats were pulling the same crap I'm sure KO would be lampooning them as well. All I ever wanted was a level playing field and I think KO delivers that. The same certainly can't be said about O'Lielly and he's hemorrhaging audience share because of it.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 03:58 AM
Response to Reply #69
70. "Liberal" ...as in NOT rightwing propagandistic spew
like the other shows put out. :)

Go Keith !
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PegDAC Donating Member (906 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 06:42 PM
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99. Even as a sportcaster KO radiated integrity.
He refused to include OJ Simpson on his list of greatest athletes of the 20th century, and was very clear about the reason

:* :loveya: :loveya:

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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 04:11 PM
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20. Here's today's emailed Keith Olbermann/Countdown NEWSLETTER:
(near the end is a link where you can subscribe)


From: MSNBC_Olbermann_NewsMail@MSNBC.COM
Subject: White House Change-Up
Date: March 28, 2006 1:20:55 PM EST
To: OLBERMANN@LISTS.MSNBC.COM
Reply-To: MSNBC_Olbermann_NewsMail@MSNBC.COM

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Tonight on Countdown
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White House chief of staff Andrew Card has resigned and will be replaced by budget director Joshua Bolten, President Bush announced Tuesday amid growing calls for a White House shake-up and Republican concern about Bush's tumbling poll ratings. Bush announced the changes in an nationally broadcast appearance in the Oval Office. Card came to Bush recently and suggested that he should step down from the job that he has held from the first day of Bush's presidency. Card's last day on the job will be April 14. Bush said he decided last weekend to accept Card's resignation. Bolten is widely experienced in Washington, both on Capitol Hill as well as at the White House, where he was deputy chief of staff before becoming director of the Office of Management and Budget. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12048598 /

Countdown w/ Keith Olbermann broadcasts LIVE at 8 pm et, and the count is never complete without you. Join us.

We will air two large (and cocluding) segments of the Michael Schiavo interview today.

Drake University student Skyler Bartels spent part of his spring break living undercover at a Wal-Mart Supercenter in Windsor Heights. Bartels didn't last the entire week, but he did manage to stick it out for 41 consecutive hours. Shoppers and employees didn't pay much attention to him, he said, until the end of his stay. Bartels also said he is scheduled to appear tonight on "Countdown with Keith Olbermann" on MSNBC. National Public Radio, Bartels added, has penciled in this afternoon for a spot on "All Things Considered," and a radio station from Ireland wants to arrange an interview. Bartels got the idea during a talk with his adviser, Carol Spaulding-Kruse, an associate professor of English. After seeing the discount chain's ads, Bartels wondered whether a person could actually live at a Wal-Mart store. http://desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=...

That's some of what we're planning for tonight's show.

Finally,
The singer who dressed as a policeman in the flamboyant late 1970s disco band Village People has been arrested after disappearing while drug and gun charges against him were pending, officials said Monday. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12043821 /
"It's fun to sing it the J-A-I-L, it's fun to sing it the J-A-I-L... You can't set yourself free, you can't have a good meal, you can't do whatever you feel..."

-- Carey Fox

Countdown Home: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677 /

More:
Americans' optimism in the economy rebounded in March, sending a widely followed barometer of consumer sentiment to a near four-year high, a private research group said Tuesday. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12050193 /

A lawyer for Osama bin Laden's former driver urged the Supreme Court on Tuesday to curb President Bush's use of wartime powers to prosecute terror suspects held at a U.S. military base at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12045388 /

A British man accused of killing his wife and infant daughter was indicted by a grand jury Tuesday on first-degree murder charges. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12051353 /

Mary Winkler, the woman charged with killing her minister husband, is "very confused and overwhelmed" by what's happening, her lawyer told NBC News on Tuesday. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12048445 /

Caspar Weinberger, defense secretary under the Reagan administration and central figure in the Iran-Contra scandal, has died at the age of 88. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12050783 /

Israelis voted Tuesday in an election billed as a referendum on the future of the West Bank, with the leading candidate, acting Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, promising to pull back from most of the territory and draw Israel's final borders by 2010. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12034819 /

Three groups of gunmen kidnapped 24 Iraqis from businesses in Baghdad on Tuesday, while a car bomb exploded south of the capital as police exchanged fire with two suicide bombers at a police station, wounding a dozen people, officials said. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12033684 /

An Afghan man who had faced the death penalty for converting from Islam to Christianity quickly vanished Tuesday after he was released from prison, apparently out of fear for his life with Muslim clerics still demanding his death. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12022144 /

Former Liberian President Charles Taylor disappeared from his Nigerian haven, days after his hosts agreed to transfer him to a war crimes tribunal for the murder, rape and maiming of more than a half-million Africans, officials said Tuesday. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12048243/?from=ET

Hundreds of thousands of French transport workers, teachers and other employees staged a one-day national strike or marched through the streets on Tuesday to try to force the government to abandon a new youth job law. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12045529 /

China's Health Ministry has explicitly banned sales of human organs in an apparent attempt to clean up the country's lucrative but laxly regulated transplant business. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12050522 /

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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 04:12 PM
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21. w00t w00t w00t!
:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: Go KO! :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 04:16 PM
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22. Go Keith.
The only cable talk show we will watch.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 04:20 PM
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23. More and more people are watching KO
Countdown is the best program on cable.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 08:29 PM
Response to Reply #23
39. As he moves to the left, his show gets a bigger audience
because that makes it stand out from the rest of cable news.
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spuddonna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 04:24 PM
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24. Go KO!!! :) woo hoo!!! n/t
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 04:27 PM
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25. Who would have ever througt..
... you could get ratings by criticising the DictatorTot?

This puts cable in a real bind. The "right wing" media now has to choose between their ideology and their income!

Hehe.
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Bluzmann57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 09:07 PM
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47. Quite frankly, I don't think they will even blink
Money talks and we progressives buy stuff too. We buy cars, household goods, food, and everything else anybody else buys and advertisers will see this. Therefore, they will buy advertising on Olbermann's show.
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Deb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 04:31 PM
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26. Woot!
Not many people knew who I was talking about when mentioning his show, now everybody does. Whats not to love? He simply takes names and kicks ass.
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NJ Democrats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 04:31 PM
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27. Go KO! Yeah!!!
Next up O'Reilly
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chat_noir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 04:32 PM
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28. more good news at the Media Bistro site
O'Reilly down 24%!!
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 04:52 PM
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30. Woo hoo!!!!
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 05:03 PM
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31. Great Job Keith - He's one of the hot shows on cable
Edited on Tue Mar-28-06 05:03 PM by RamboLiberal
BTW, H&C is also bleeding viewers - they are down -27% in key demo viewers. Courtesy of mediabistro via CNN here's a great pdf link.

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/original/q106vs05.p...
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suziedemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 06:03 PM
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33. Awesome!!! Love Him - Hate her!! Way to go man!
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 06:05 PM
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34. That's very good news. I have a question though...
I'm wondering if TV ratings these days are more accurate because of how many people use cable boxes which can monitor what is being watched. Or do Neilson families still exist?
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populistdriven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 06:39 PM
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36. Neilson is still the final authority on TV ratings
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Notoverit Donating Member (302 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 06:44 PM
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37. Surprising they don't fire him for it (Donahue was leading too)
Could it be MSNBC is trying to find a niche?
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nicknameless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 07:05 PM
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38. Excellent news!
K&R
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Imalittleteapot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 08:30 PM
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40. Guess it's time for MSNBC to let him go - a la Donahue.
Keith's increased numbers should not come as a surprise. Great show. Great information. In a class all by himself...honesty and integrity.

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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 08:36 PM
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41. Hey O'Reillly, how's that campaign to get Olbermann fired goin'?
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 08:39 PM
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42. O'Reilly's gonna get flushed down the toilet
:D
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psychopomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 08:40 PM
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43. Congrats Mr. Olbermann
You are doing excellent work! :bounce: :toast: :yourock: :hi:
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im10ashus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 08:41 PM
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44. Why did it take 5 years for this to happen?
Olbermann ROCKS and Zahn SUCKS!!!
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 08:44 PM
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45. Yay! and thanks for reminding me to set my reminder to watch! n/t
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fearnobush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 08:54 PM
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46. It's all Keith. When he gets close to the end of the rabbit hole, everyone
wants to see if he'll actually find out how deep it is. I'd love to see him bring Sancho and latest Diebold BFEE crime family, rigged voting machine stories back. After all, it was Keith, the only one who gave any M$M coverage to our rigged Democracy back in Nov 2004.
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 09:07 PM
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48. Who Hoo! Keith Olbermann, a truthseeker!
:woohoo:
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 09:12 PM
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49. I always watch KO
and Jon Stewart. MSNBC lost me with Mr. Tweety Talkingpoints Repub/Neo-Con and his dribble.

Keith Olbermann has the most class, dignity and sincerity and as far as I'm concern he should be awarded for his honesty.
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Brazenly Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 06:40 AM
Response to Reply #49
74. Well, then you'll love this ticket
:evilgrin:
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stillrockin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 09:20 PM
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51. The ONLY cable news show I watch!
:thumbsup:
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 09:55 PM
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54. Yep, Countdown and Dobbs on CNN
Edited on Tue Mar-28-06 09:56 PM by upi402
I don't even watch The News Hour since the other guy left and Gwen Eiffel said some BS about the "victory" in Iraq, etc etc etc

http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=2517
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 09:51 PM
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53. Keef: Best. Newscast. Ever.
Honestly: he does a superb job, almost without precedent in TV news, of creating a show that brings the public and objective view together with the unavoidable personal aspects of the viewer and the broadcaster, and of having a broad enough view to encompass both the deadly serious and trivially comic elements of an ordinary American's day.


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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 12:24 AM
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62. is it just me or does 164,000 viewers seem like not a lot?
250 million people in this country, most of them watch TV contantly, and only 164,000 are watching this show?
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LaPera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 12:25 AM
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63. I'm going to start watching Keith-I quit watching all news & news shows...
Edited on Wed Mar-29-06 12:34 AM by LaPera
But, the more I hear...I realize, I need to start watching Olbermann! The great Mike Malloy always does a nice plug for Keith Olbermann.

MSNBC...what time (Pacific)?
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oc2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 08:15 AM
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79. been doing that for years now.

The corporate media whores just all repeat the same crapola anyway. KO offers a fresh perspective, centrist view that does not ignore or attack the liberals.
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 12:14 AM
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100. I've been watching Lou Dobbs, Keith O., and just to get a chuckle
at the end of the day, Jon Stewart, just for a chuckle. Lights out at 11:30 PM. Sometimes I see Bill Maher on HBO's on demand.

Also I tune in to Air America radio and read a couple of blogs, if I have a chance.

I feel pretty well informed with that schedule.

You don't have to swallow.... Fox News and Hannity and O'Reilly and Limbaugh... if you don't want to.

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amitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 12:41 AM
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65. I got all my friends/family to watch him.
All 164,000 of them!

:D

But really, I do tell people to watch his show, if we're talking about a related subject. Everybody seems to like it.
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Broken_Hero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 01:47 AM
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66. good job KO!...n/t
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 04:02 AM
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71. :(
I've usually crashed by 8:00pm because I have to get up early for work -- so I usually miss Olberman

I'd like it better if they dumped Wolf at 7pm and moved Olberman into that slot

p.s. I do channel surf to Wolf at 4pm -- but only because I get a kick out of McCafferty. And I do watch Lou Dobbs most of the time
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truthseeker1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 02:45 PM
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97. You're on the wrong channel
Wolf is on CNN, KO is on MSNBC.

Seriously, you LIKE McCafferty??
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 02:39 AM
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102. typo -- on my part
I occassionally do manage to catch KO on MSNBC, but most of the time I've crashed by then

yeah, I get a kick out of McCafferty sometimes. Don't always agree with him, just like I don't always agree with alot of the talkingheads.

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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 06:54 AM
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75. I just sent this thread to the Countdown staff...
So they feel the :loveya:
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oc2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 08:13 AM
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77. KO Rocks!

Olberman show is the only 'fair and balanced' show of them all.
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 08:35 AM
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83. gee according to msnbc logic
isn't it time to fire ko...didn't they fire the last big ratings bump. msnbc management are not the brightest bulb in the news buisiness....or maybe they just have a far different agenda than building a good news business. anyway hope he lasts. he is about the only honest journalist left in corporate media with a program of his own.
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NewWaveChick1981 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 08:40 AM
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84. Keith's my hero!
I really started watching Countdown in January (had seen it off and on prior to that), and the fact that it's sandwiched between Chris Matthews and Rita Cosby is highly appropriate---something completely different and unexpected between two shows that are total drivel.

Keep up the good work, Keith and Co.!
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trudyco Donating Member (975 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 08:55 AM
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85. So why don't they include Comedy Central in the ratings?
Somebody must be keeping track for advertising. The Daily show runs right against o'Liely, doesn't it?

I sometimes watch Olberman, but not consistently like I used to watch CNN. The format is a little strange for me, but at least he occasionally speaks the truth. I could have done without the Michael Jackson puppet show.

Wouldn't it be interesting to see the percentage of viewers who CAN view the show actually viewing it (cleaning up the cable companies who don't offer it) and also how many businesses run FOX versus actual private viewers who opted to watch the show. Somehow I don't think the advertising is as effective if you are seeing a snippet of FOX while in the bank (or a restaurant with the sound turned down). I'd think the advertisers would want to know the difference.

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trudyco Donating Member (975 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 08:55 AM
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86. So why don't they include Comedy Central in the ratings?
Somebody must be keeping track for advertising. The Daily show runs right against o'Liely, doesn't it?

I sometimes watch Olberman, but not consistently like I used to watch CNN. The format is a little strange for me, but at least he occasionally speaks the truth. I could have done without the Michael Jackson puppet show.

Wouldn't it be interesting to see the percentage of viewers who CAN view the show actually viewing it (cleaning up the cable companies who don't offer it) and also how many businesses run FOX versus actual private viewers who opted to watch the show. Somehow I don't think the advertising is as effective if you are seeing a snippet of FOX while in the bank (or a restaurant with the sound turned down). I'd think the advertisers would want to know the difference.

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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 10:34 AM
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89. Paula Redux...insincere, histrionic, nasty...Way to Go Kieth n/t
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Zinfandel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 02:02 PM
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94. Cheers to Keith, he is indeed the best!!!!
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truthseeker1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 02:10 PM
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95. I only watch what's on my Tivo and KO is a repeating event!
I look forward to KO every night (or the next morning) and by capturing it on Tivo, I don't have to sit through the other crap waiting for KO to come on. It's bad enough having to endure the minute or two of Rita at then end of the KO recording. I usually try to hit delete before her annoying raspy voice comes on, usually going on about some sensationalized porn, child molester or rape victim story. When will MSNBC can her??

KO is the ONLY show on MSM news that I watch! I get all my news from him, Jon Stewart and Amy Goodman - and of course, the Internets.
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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 02:48 PM
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98. KO has more news in an hour-actually in about 15 minutes
Than CNN does all day. The people that come on actually get to talk-not a he said/she said it's all the same in the end bullshit "discussion".

Also-I think this reflects the mood of the country-they want some truth. Olbermann says words like Orwellian-CNN just embodies it.
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LaPera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 02:47 AM
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110. And Olbermann's numbers will continue to grow! He's hot and getting
Edited on Sat Apr-01-06 02:49 AM by LaPera
HOTTER!

Support & spread the word to all!
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