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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 08:21 AM
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Lets' be Fair & Balanced about the Patriot Act
Some whiny leftist people say the PA is too infringy on their so-called "rights".

Why can't the MSM balance their coverage by also citing the many NEW freedoms and rights the BA has benevolently granted to us Homelanders?

Please help list them here.

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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 08:25 AM
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1. Here's one...
1.








Someone else will have to fill in the item, because I can't think of anything, but at least it's a start... :eyes:
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 08:33 AM
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2. I can't think of one
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 08:49 AM
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3. Here's the whole list.








































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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 08:50 AM
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4. We now have the right to remain silent. In fact, we HAVE to shut up.
How's that?

Redstone
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 08:53 AM
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5. We've always had that right. Now its just extended to cover all speech
except praise of rightwingers and administration lies.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 08:59 AM
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6. The right to never be alone . . .
with our friends or even inside our own heads. The desire for individual privacy is an expression of disloyalty and insanity. Both conditions can be cured.

Orwell pointed that out about Totalitarian states:

1984 - George Orwell
Part III Chapter 3

Quote/
'There are three stages in your reintegration,' said
O'Brien. 'There is learning, there is understanding, and
there is acceptance. It is time for you to enter upon the
second stage.'<...>'As you lie there,' said O'Brien, 'you have often
wondered - you have even asked me - why the Ministry of Love
should expend so much time and trouble on you." ... 'Do you
remember writing in your diary, "I understand ~how~: I do
not understand ~why~"? It was when you thought about "why"
that you doubted your own sanity...'<...>'You understand well enough ~how~ the party maintains
itself in power. Now tell me ~why~ we cling to power. What
is our motive? Why should we want power? Go on, speak,' he
added as Winston remained silent.<...>Nevertheless Winston did not speak for another moment or
two.<...>'You are ruling over us for our own good,' he said
feebly. 'You believe that human beings are not fit to govern
themselves, and therefore - He started and almost cried out. A pang of pain had shot
through his body. O'Brien had pushed the lever of the dial
up to thirty-five.'That was stupid, Winston, stupid!' he said. 'You should
know better than to say a thing like that.'He pulled the lever back and continued:

'Now I will tell you the answer to my question. It is
this. The Party seeks power entirely for its own sake. We
are not interested in the good of others; we are interested
solely in power. Not wealth or luxury or long life or
happiness: only power, pure power. What pure power means you
will understand presently. We are different from the
oligarchies of the past, in that we know what we are doing.
All the others, even those who resembled ourselves, were
cowards and hypocrites. The German Nazis and the Russian
Communists came very close to us in their methods, but they
never had the courage to recognize their own motives. They
pretended, perhaps they even believed, that they had seized
power unwillingly and for a limited time, and that just
round the corner there lay a paradise where human beings
would be free and equal. We are not like that. We know that
no one seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it.
Power is not a means, it is an end. One does not establish a
dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes
the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship. The
object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture
is torture. The object of power is power. Now do you begin
to understand me?'

<...>
'We are the priests of power,' he said. 'God is power.
But at present power is only a word so far as you are
concerned. It is time for you to gather some idea of what
power means. The first thing you must realize is that power
is collective. The individual only has power in so far as he
ceases to be an individual. You know the Party slogan:
"Freedom is Slavery". Has it ever occurred to you that it is
reversible? Slavery is freedom. Alone - free - the human
being is always defeated.
It must be so, because every human
being is doomed to die, which is the greatest of all
failures. But if he can make complete, utter submission, if
he can escape from his identity, if he can merge himself in
the Party so that he ~is~ the Party, then he is all-powerful
and immortal. The second thing for you to realize is that
power is power over human beings. Over the body - but, above
all, over the mind: Power over matter - external reality, as
you would call it - is not important. Already our control
over matter is absolute.'

<...>
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Chimichurri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 09:01 AM
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7. Since you began the thread, why don't you post some?
Seems your baiting "whiny leftists" so make your case.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 09:06 AM
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8. Uh I believe the OP was satire
Edited on Fri Mar-24-06 09:06 AM by Warren Stupidity
"infringy" was a major clue. I took this post in the spirit of The Colbert Report. Of course, as with the excellent Colbert Report, it is very difficult to tell the difference between satire and reality. That is the point. Absurd times call for absurd posts.
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Chimichurri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 09:42 AM
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10. Doh. This satire was too close to the wingnut idiocy.
I've come across posts identical to this one except the poster actually meant it. Sorry about the confusion, their inanity is hard to decipher from actual comedy. The right have evolved quite literally into a joke.

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