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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 11:31 PM
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"No President Wants War"---Really? Let's Go Down Memory Lane, Shall We?
So during today's press conference, it was clear that the Chimp was talking out of his rear end, and thinking with it as well!

He was asked by veteran journalist Helen Thomas what was the real reason he went to war, and he falsely asserted that he didn't even want to go to war!

QUESTION: I'd like to ask you, Mr. President -- your decision to invade Iraq has caused the deaths of thousands of Americans and Iraqis, wounds of Americans and Iraqis for a lifetime.

Every reason given, publicly at least, has turned out not to be true. My question is: Why did you really want to go to war? From the moment you stepped into the White House, your Cabinet officers, former Cabinet officers, intelligence people and so forth -- but what's your real reason? You have said it wasn't oil, the quest for oil. It hasn't been Israel or anything else. What was it?

BUSH: I think your premise, in all due respect to your question and to you as a lifelong journalist -- that I didn't want war. To assume I wanted war is just flat wrong, Helen, in all due respect.

QUESTION: And...

BUSH: Hold on for a second, please. Excuse me. Excuse me.

No president wants war. Everything you may have heard is that, but it's just simply not true.

Well, since George W. Bush seems intent on lying and not correcting the record, allow me to do so on his behalf.

Contrary to his assertions today, George W. Bush DID want to go to war. In fact, he was determined to, from the first day he walked into the White House.

- Two years before September 11, then-candidate George W. Bush told his ghostwriter Mickey Herskowitz that he planned to invade Iraq if elected President. He told Herskovitz that invading Iraq was on his mind because in Bush's words: "One of the keys to being seen as a great leader is to be seen as a commander-in-chief. My father had all this political capital built up when he drove the Iraqis out of Kuwait and he wasted it. If I have a chance to invade, if I had that much capital, I'm not going to waste it. I'm going to get everything passed that I want to get passed and I'm going to have a successful presidency."

- Former Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neill has also said Bush planned to invade Iraq, just days after entering the White House. O'Neill said: "From the very beginning, there was a conviction that Saddam Hussein was a bad person and that he needed to go. For me, the notion of pre-emption, that the U.S. has the unilateral right to do whatever we decide to do, is a really huge leap."

Furthermore, O'Neill says: "It was all about finding a way to do it. That was the tone of it. The president saying 'Go find me a way to do this.'"

- Likewise, former White House Counter-terrorism Chief Richard Clarke says that in the aftermath of 9/11, he expected the focus to be on al Qaeda and Osama bin Laden. Instead, Bush's focus was on Iraq. Clarke says: "They were talking about Iraq on 9/11. They were talking about it on 9/12."

- A Downing Street Memo revealed that when Bush met with British Prime Minister Tony Blair on January 31, 2003, he made it clear he intended to invade Iraq even if there was no evidence of WMDs, and even in the absence of a second UN resolution.

In fact, Bush was so concerned about the lack of evidence against Sadaam Hussein, that he even considered flying our own U2 reconnaissance planes over Iraq, and disguising them as U.N. planes by painting them in U.N. colors. In other words, in the absence of evidence, he wanted to entrap Sadaam.

The evidence is clear that Bush was intent on going to war with Iraq, even before he stepped a foot in the White House as President.

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/1028-01.htm

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/01/10/oneill.bush/

http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/?q=node/7408
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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 11:34 PM
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1. More * lies! Of course he wanted a war.
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killerbush Donating Member (822 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 11:38 PM
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2. of course he wanted war
Republican chickenhawks love to kill people and break things. The difference is they let other people die for them.:nuke:
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 11:40 PM
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3. war with saddam is the reason he became president
hell, war with saddam is the reason he sobered up his image and became governor of texas. he found his mission in life the day poppy stopped short of baghdad.
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savemefromdumbya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 11:47 PM
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4. My nephew calls him the Commander of Sheep (not Commander in Chief)
many people are now feeling they were duped on Iraq
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liveoaktx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 11:54 PM
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5. And one more-VIDEO clip
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Ksec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 11:58 PM
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6. watched his speech and when he said that
you could just sense all the air escaping from the building at that moment. How he keeps going after such an audacious statement is beyond me. Ill give him credit for that. He really believes what he says , even when everyone in the World knows hes lying through his teeth. Whats that called ? The word escapes me right now but theres a name for that behavior. You see it in mass murderers who can lie on a witness stand and show no emotion .
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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 12:03 AM
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7. The faith-based presidency. Required reading from Ron Suskind
Have you ever read this article Without A Doubt, by Ron Suskind?

It was published in the New York Times' magazine section in 2004.

It's way too long to copy & paste in here, so here's the link:

http://www.cs.umass.edu/~immerman/play/opinion05/WithoutADoubt.html
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 12:08 AM
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10. psychopath
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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 12:11 AM
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11. The part of the article that really kills me
Is how he argued up and down with Tom Lantos on whether it was Switzerland or Sweden that was traditionally neutral and doesn't have an army.

He thought it was Sweden, but it was actually Switzerland. Then he had to go back and apologize to Lantos for being wrong and talking out of his ass.

Amazing.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 12:18 AM
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13. Ann Coulter; Canadian forces fought with US in Vietnam.
She's damn sure they did.

Gee, Annie, no they did not.

They're so much the stupidest MFers on the planet, that as often as it's pointed out time & time & time again they're WRONG WRONG WRONG, they just continue talking out their ass and being shown up as being WRONG WRONG WRONG.

They hate themselves. They really do.
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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 12:21 AM
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15. She thinks Canada joined the Vietnam war?
WTF?

If that's the case, why did so many Americans who wanted to escape being drafted into Vietnam, go to Canada??????

She's bat-shit crazy, for sure.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 12:24 AM
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16. Yeppers, she does indeedy. Or did. She may know by now she was
100% ignorant.

She argued with a Canadian on telly; on & on she went, about how Canada had Cdn troops in 'Nam.

What can ya expect? She's a MFing rightwingnut and they ALL are MFing ignorant idiots.
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 12:06 AM
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8. Anti-Americans law making and cover to loot the treasury
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 12:07 AM
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9. And more...
"Fuck Saddam, we're taking him out"

-March 2002, a year before his illegal invasion
http://citypages.com/databank/25/1247/article12600.asp

‘If I have a chance to invade….if I had that much capital, I’m not going to waste it."

-1999.
http://houstonpress.com/issues/2004-11-18/news/news_print.html

And more...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=715732&mesg_id=715732
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 12:17 AM
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12. Thanks Journalist! I was looking for that quote!
So no president wants war, huh?
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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 12:19 AM
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14. You're very welcome! Here's the link to the entire transcript
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 12:25 AM
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17. I'm going to kick and recommend this thread because....
this needs to be known about this liar we have for a president. :kick:
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