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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 09:59 AM
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Baghdad Street:CIVIL WAR IMMINENT & US Secretly Wants It To Happen...
IRAQ WARS
Baghdad Street Fears Imminent Civil War

by Pamela Hess
UPI Pentagon Correspondent
Washington (UPI) Mar 14, 2006

Rumors in Iraq have a weight that government and even newspaper reports don't seem to carry, and the latest rumors suggest Iraqis believe a civil war is imminent and the United States secretly wants it to happen.

Just three days after U.S. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld criticized what he believes to be "exaggerated" and one-sided press coverage of apparently sectarian violence in Iraq sparked by the Feb. 22 attack on a Shiite mosque in Samarra, U.S. military intelligence reported that "most Iraqis increasingly fear an all-out civil war will begin soon."

"In fact, the entire group believes that Iraq is at least in a state of low-level civil war and most believe that the country is one assassination or Samarra-type event away from all-out civil war," it stated.

That suggestion is contained in the March 10 edition of the "Baghdad Mosquito," a daily collection of "open source intelligence" culled from Iraqi newspapers, as well as rumors from a group of "knowledgeable" Iraqis.

http://www.spacewar.com/reports/Baghdad_Street_Fears_Im...
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 10:00 AM
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1. I agree with them.
And I agree that Bush wants this.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 10:02 AM
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3. Me, too.
Must have justification for permanent U.S. military presence per PNAC. What other alternative justifications are there? I can't think of any.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 10:01 AM
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2. The Iraqi's are one blown up sacred Religious site....
away from civil war!!

We all know it's coming!!

<snip>
one assassination or Samarra-type event away from all-out civil war," it stated.
<snip>
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spindrifter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 10:03 AM
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4. What is the Lincoln Group
planting in Iraqi papers?
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Lincoln_Grou...

I think it would be useful if one of the Iraqi bloggers could give us some idea of what that propaganda machine is up to. If they are currently silent, that, too is a comment.
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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 10:10 AM
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5. Yes,Bush wants to drop further in the polls and lose 2006 House elections.
That way,you see, he can then get the impeachment he wants.
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Dr. Jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 10:46 AM
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6. I agree with your sentiment here -
just don't see why in the world Bush would WANT this to happen. Yes, it would sink him in the polls, and it would cause the Repubs to lose the '06 election. Also, the American people would lose faith in the war effort altogether and would call for withdraw, meaning Bush would lose and, according to his own philosophy, the terrorists would win.
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donkeyotay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 12:06 PM
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7. I don't know. He's already sunk in the polls. Now he needs a way out
They seem to be going with the "if these crazy Iraqis want to kill each other, it's not my fault" tactic. Bush actually saves face with the right wing. It's not his fault. The Iraqis are crazy. They screwed up. He's freed up to either attack Iran or heroically bring home the troops in time to make plausible another GOP win in 2006. He won't be held accountable, and we can move on to cutting social programs to pay for it.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 12:09 PM
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8. he does not give a shit about the polls
Edited on Tue Mar-14-06 12:12 PM by leftchick
he probably doesn't even know how bad they are given the fact his lacky's fear giving dear leader bad news. A civil war is fine with rummy and the rest of the neo-freaks.
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genie_weenie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 12:50 PM
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9. A pretty shoddy secret
I always preferred the Early Bird (http://ebird.afis.mil /). Of course, over the last six years Rummy has culled any anti-war/editorial content out and demanded more admin friendly news stories.
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 12:52 PM
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10. Divide and Conquer
Why do you think they didn't send more soldiers in there when they had their chance?
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 12:53 PM
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11. Rummy must be running a reverse psychology psyops
Since the U.S. wants it, the Iraqis will do the opposite and therefore a CW is averted.

Brilliant! :eyes:
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Kansas Wyatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 01:01 PM
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12. It has always been their Plan B
BushCo removed a dictator who kept the lid on a hornet's nest radicals, and things didn't go as well as they had thought with the alleged "freedom" crap. So, they incite clashes between radical groups in Iraq, and stand back to watch the games begin. In the end, a large part of the radicals have been done away with, and the blood isn't allegedly on BushCo's hands.

Big Oil and the military industrial complex keep their contracts on Iraq, a large number of radicals are killed, and the Iraqi people are strongly reminded how they do not want to return to the radical ways.
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