Can we get a Hillary Clinton Haters forum or a Anti-Hillary '08 forum

[xultar]

Please.

For goodness sakes. We've got 2 effin years. We haven't even taken the house or the senate back.

Nothing on DU is going to change whether or not HC runs. Let's use our talents and energy for positive things instead of arguing about someone isn't even going to run in 2 years.

I get the fact that people here don't like Hillary.

The only thing that can solve this problem is if everyone says they hate Hillary and/or they don't want her to run even if you disagree so we can get back to shit that can help us take the House and Senate?

So, I'll start.

I hate Hillary and I don't want her to run.

Next!

[proud2BlibKansan]

1. Here here !! I second that idea!

[madokie]

4. I have a question, hows mo'

[proud2BlibKansan]

28. I have heard nothing

I will let you know when I do.

I haven't forgotten.

[madokie]

36. well i'm getting worried and i don't like worry, durn it anyway

[proud2BlibKansan]

37. No news is good news

[madokie]

46. thanks ^5's

[Crazy Guggenheim]

2. .............

[madokie]

3. Well I love Hillary and would vote for her in a heartbeat

The last thing i want is someone who can please all, all the time.

[xultar]

5. But you gotta say you don't want her to run. Please say it so we can

concentrate on 2k6.

I really want to get some impeachment hearings started. That is the only way to wake up the kool-aid drinkers by 2k8 so we can win no matter who runs.

[SnoopDog]

7. Would that not be a good thing...

'to please all - all the time'.

Some things makes sense to all human beings like clean water, clean air,safe food, safe environment, and freedom.

[xultar]

Ok so say you hate her so we can get on to election 2k6 please.

[SnoopDog]

Well, I never said I hated her...

I don't hate anyone. But I would never vote for her as a presidential candidate as she is really the Republican candidate for the Dem ticket and voted for the renewal of the Patriot Act and tax cuts for the wealthy....

[xultar]

20. Whatever...what about 2006?

[SnoopDog]

25. Yes I am working on 2006 but I also multi-task

...on 2008. Every time I hear the right-wing mention 'Hillary' for 2008 - I state that I would never vote for her as she is the Repub candidate on the Dem ticket.

How's that!

[madokie]

22. you asked and i said, but i don't think she will run

I just don't think it would be possible to please all.

[xultar]

27. True. So what about 2k6. You got any ideas. I solicited for people

to dig up dirt on anyone the RW was running for house and senate.

Pix of any RW candidate with Abramoff and other scandal people.
I'm also looking just for general dirt on any RW candiate in 2k6 local, state, and federal.

I think we need to start puttin the dirt where the RW bullshit is.

[madokie]

41. i would like to think we took the high road

thats all. let facts speak for themselves, we just don't need to keep shoving it in peoples faces.

[Roland99]

6. Is this like the He Man Girl Haters Club?

And, no, this isn't meant to accuse anyone of hating Hillary because she's a woman...merely a reference to the ol' Our Gang (Little Rascals) show.

[xultar]

8. Yup. So say you hate her or don't want her to run. Then maybe

we'll get more how to win 2k6 house and senate posts.

[Roland99]

16. What if I want her to run to hate her?

[xultar]

21. Then I'd say great. But say you don't want her to run so we can get

the rest of the people out of the effin ditches they are stuck in so we can win 2k6.

[Roland99]

30. You mean I can't keep dragging this out?

I have to shit or get off the pot?

[xultar]

35. Nope. Lets avoid the seat rash.

[Clarkie1]

9. No comment.

No comment until after November.

[Atman]

10. What a great idea! Two seperate choirs preaching to themselves!

That will do a lot to unite the party! Why didn't I think of that?

[xultar]

12. So say you hate her so we can discuss 2k6.

[Atman]

I DON'T HATE HILLARY!

Dammit, you just don't listen, do you?

I don't -- DO NOT -- hate Hillary. My posts have been about her polarizing voters, and you just serve to prove my point every time you do this. Jesus, I NEVER SAID I HATE HILLARY. I posted my concerns about her electability from a marketing standpoint. I don't hate Hillary (have I said it enough for you yet?) but you clearly have no time for anyone who refuses to bow down to her!

[xultar]

19. OK! SO WHAT ABOUT 2006? Isn't there anything important about

that you'd like to discuss.

What are your ideas about winning so we can get some impeachment hearings started?

Why worry about HC when we have impeachment hearings to start.

Don't you want to HEAR THE TRUTH????

[Atman]

44. "Don't you want to HEAR THE TRUTH????"

I give up.

I'm very active in local politics (I'm even an Assistant Registrar of Voters), and I'll be working on the Lamont campaign in order to help unseat Bush's kissing buddy, Joe Lieberman. If Ned won't work towards impeachment if elected, I'll have to do some thinking about spending time on his campaign.

Do I meet ANY of your lofty standards, xultar? BTW...what exactly are YOU doing to have earned the cred to tell the rest of who we're supposed to support and when?

.

[xultar]

50. I have no credit. It is March of 2k6. If not now then when? October?

[waiting for hope]

11. Well, I don't want her to run either

for her next move will be against pro-choice. Who knows who she'll pander to next, probably a fundamentalist group's movement for she's buying votes..

[xultar]

14. Good. So now how are we going to win 2k6. If you have any great

ideas on 2k6 please start a new thread so we can discuss those things.

That is where our focus needs to be.

[Clarkie1]

18. I think we should do all we can.

To get the "Band of Brothers" (and sisters) elected to congress.

There is no better way we can honor the service of all our vets or improve the image of the Democratic Party.

[xultar]

24. Thank you. You'd think we could all say. OK HC forget about her

the RW is bringing her up anyways.

Why don't we concentrate on 2006 instead of letting them distract us with HC?

BUT noooooooo.

People here are falling into the RW trap. They are letting the RW define us instead of us doing our own thing to win in 2006.

[madokie]

32. worrying about the hil ain't gonna get us anywhere

it's pretty much a none issue. Please don't rile the feathers of those who might not agree that hillary is the worst thing to come down the pike.
peace


please
lov'ya

[xultar]

40. I'm not trying to rile them. I'm saying that I give. They win. I agree.

Now lets move on and get 2k6 started.

[madokie]

48. Yes, to say we are brothers and sisters for crushing the bfee

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

13. SURE!!! There's One Right Here!

democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x631419

[Texasgal]

15. In the end...

Hillary will hurt us. I know this is hard for some to accept. but it is true.

[xultar]

17. OK. So now what about 2k6? We've folded we all agree with you

you are right.
she shouldn't run in 2k8 or ever for that fact.

Now start working on 2k6.

Post other threads about your ideas for winning in 2k6.

[Texasgal]

23. I have nothing to add..

which makes me look foolish I am sure, but I do know that Hillary will not help us. I am willing ad able to look and follow some ideas, but I will admit... I have none.

[xultar]

29. I posted a week a go for us to research and find dirt on all RW 2k6

candiates.

I'm trying to think of slogans, grassroots stuff that will catch fire and spread.

DUers are creative. Think on it. T-shirt designs anything to get people to wake up and vote our way so we can get impeachment investigations and hearings started.

So just thin about it and sleep on it. Post ideas as they come. They will come. I have faith we will come up with something BRILLIANT and people will see the light!

[Texasgal]

33. I admire your tenacity...

I am just so damn tired.. ya know?

[xultar]

38. I know.. But there seems to be so much energy directed at disliking

HC when we can put that towards getting some people in the house to vote and start some investigations on Bush's ass.

I mean for Gawd sake. Dems in the House and Senate can't even schedule rooms to hold hearings.

We've got to do something about that so we can get some hearings to get the truth out.

We keep complaining that the kool-aid drinkers don't hear the truth. Well winning in 2k6 can help get the truth out.

So we gotta do it!

Rest a couple of weeks then come on back ideas for 2k6 will always be welcome!

[Texasgal]

45. I sincerely admire you...

I will do what I can. I will always look to you as an inspiration when I am down in the "political dumps" Your a class act!

Funny thing, I have not participated in any of the Hillary bashing... it's too heated for me, however... I do have an opinion about her.

[xultar]

51. I'm all for opinions. She doesn't rock my world. But she's a distraction

I don't like the RW playing in our stuff.

Why are they so concerned about her they need to feed stories to the media about her every week?

What about that aren't we getting.

I like Clark. I want him to run. But Right now I don't care if Clark ever runs. Right now I'm all about 2k6. I don't even hang out in the Clark forums any more.

I want to win 2k6 so badly. It needs to be a landslide. I talk with everyone I can. Hotel workers, seatmates on planes, the ladies @ the hair salon, people @ the rent a car. I just start talkin usually by asking them if they are voting this year. Then I lay some facts on them about Bush. I'm talkin to people letting them know that this year is important.

I talk to young blacks saying you gotta vote no complainin if you don't vote bruva and sistah...
I've never done that before.

[Catherine Vincent]

26. I don't know why folks think she'll run anyway.

There has been no official word from her or her camp, so I don't plan on discussing it.

[xultar]

31. Got ideas for 2k6? Sleep on it and post your brillance tomorrow!

Think slogans, t-shirt designs campaigns.

Anything that people will catch on to and start them to thinking that they shouldn't vote rethuglican.

[madokie]

34. I'll bite, remember the bush's

is all we need

[sheelz]

39. We need to focus on this November!

I don't want Hillary to run either. Maybe there should be a Hillary forum way way in the back of DU.

[xultar]

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[onehandle]

42. Just funnel those posts into the Israel/Palestine and September 11 forums.

With all the useful dialog.

[sheelz]

47. Good idea!

[johncoby2]

49. PLEASE DO! Get the *uckin idiots off of DU central.

[WillyT]

52. Well... I Like Her As A Friend, But I Wouldn't Wanna VOTE For Her !!!

I hear ya...

2006 first.

[ToeBot]

53. Segregationist! n/t

[DanCa]

54. For the record I do not hate Senator Clinton

I just think that there are some Democrats that are more electable than she is. And in return there are senators who are less electable than she is.

[xultar]

55. I'm just trying to clear the decks with this thread. Saying no need

to waste time and post shit on HC. We all agree...that she shouldn't run.

That way the RW distractions from 2k6 won't be effective.

[JNelson6563]

56. What of other obsessions?

Why not just lump 'em all into a forum? The "Beat it like a Dead Horse" forum? Or the "Revel in your Obsession" forum?

Just adding some thoughts to your good idea.

Julie

[rman]

57. and a Hillary worshiping forum

[bigtree]

58. Whatever happened to: this is my candidate, and this is where they stand?

What's the point in tearing at potential Democratic candidates anyway? In what way are they worse than any potential republican? It seems like too many have lost sight of what happens when a party takes over the White House. Everything changes.

If a Democrat, ANY Democrat, happens to win, there will be a sea change in our government and in our lives for the better. We're talking Cabinet appointments, judgeships, committees, executive orders . . . the meddling Bush has done is startling. ANY Democrat who we elevate to that office will undo the catastrophe.

There is no comparison or contest with ANY of our Democrats who have been mentioned as potential candidates and ANY republican. Our focus should be on the ultimate opposition, who, at this moment, have Bush and Cheney as their poster boys to cement the public's idea of what a republican candidate would do if elected. And the public thinks they stink.

The time is ripe for our party to unite against this regime and take our country back. Save the hate for the real opposition. Unite against republicans.

[Joe Fields]

59. Children PLEASE! I'll have to put you into time out!