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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 10:21 PM
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Can we get a Hillary Clinton Haters forum or a Anti-Hillary '08 forum
Edited on Fri Mar-10-06 10:23 PM by xultar
Please.

For goodness sakes. We've got 2 effin years. We haven't even taken the house or the senate back.

Nothing on DU is going to change whether or not HC runs. Let's use our talents and energy for positive things instead of arguing about someone isn't even going to run in 2 years.

I get the fact that people here don't like Hillary.

The only thing that can solve this problem is if everyone says they hate Hillary and/or they don't want her to run even if you disagree so we can get back to shit that can help us take the House and Senate?

So, I'll start.

I hate Hillary and I don't want her to run.

Next!

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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 10:22 PM
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1. Here here !! I second that idea!
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 10:27 PM
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4. I have a question, hows mo'
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 10:41 PM
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28. I have heard nothing
I will let you know when I do.

I haven't forgotten.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 10:49 PM
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36. well i'm getting worried and i don't like worry, durn it anyway
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 10:50 PM
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37. No news is good news
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 10:57 PM
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46. thanks ^5's
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Crazy Guggenheim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 10:23 PM
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2. .............
:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 10:26 PM
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3. Well I love Hillary and would vote for her in a heartbeat
The last thing i want is someone who can please all, all the time.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 10:28 PM
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5. But you gotta say you don't want her to run. Please say it so we can
concentrate on 2k6.

I really want to get some impeachment hearings started. That is the only way to wake up the kool-aid drinkers by 2k8 so we can win no matter who runs.
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SnoopDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 10:29 PM
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7. Would that not be a good thing...
'to please all - all the time'.

Some things makes sense to all human beings like clean water, clean air,safe food, safe environment, and freedom.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 10:30 PM
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Ok so say you hate her so we can get on to election 2k6 please.
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SnoopDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 10:35 PM
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Well, I never said I hated her...
I don't hate anyone. But I would never vote for her as a presidential candidate as she is really the Republican candidate for the Dem ticket and voted for the renewal of the Patriot Act and tax cuts for the wealthy....
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 10:36 PM
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20. Whatever...what about 2006?
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SnoopDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 10:39 PM
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25. Yes I am working on 2006 but I also multi-task
...on 2008. Every time I hear the right-wing mention 'Hillary' for 2008 - I state that I would never vote for her as she is the Repub candidate on the Dem ticket.

How's that!
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 10:36 PM
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22. you asked and i said, but i don't think she will run
I just don't think it would be possible to please all.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 10:41 PM
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27. True. So what about 2k6. You got any ideas. I solicited for people
to dig up dirt on anyone the RW was running for house and senate.

Pix of any RW candidate with Abramoff and other scandal people.
I'm also looking just for general dirt on any RW candiate in 2k6 local, state, and federal.

I think we need to start puttin the dirt where the RW bullshit is.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 10:52 PM
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41. i would like to think we took the high road
thats all. let facts speak for themselves, we just don't need to keep shoving it in peoples faces.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 10:28 PM
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6. Is this like the He Man Girl Haters Club?
Edited on Fri Mar-10-06 10:29 PM by Roland99
:D



And, no, this isn't meant to accuse anyone of hating Hillary because she's a woman...merely a reference to the ol' Our Gang (Little Rascals) show.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 10:29 PM
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8. Yup. So say you hate her or don't want her to run. Then maybe
we'll get more how to win 2k6 house and senate posts.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 10:32 PM
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16. What if I want her to run to hate her?
:)
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 10:36 PM
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21. Then I'd say great. But say you don't want her to run so we can get
the rest of the people out of the effin ditches they are stuck in so we can win 2k6.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 10:44 PM
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30. You mean I can't keep dragging this out?
Edited on Fri Mar-10-06 10:44 PM by Roland99
I have to shit or get off the pot?


:)
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 10:48 PM
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35. Nope. Lets avoid the seat rash.
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Clarkie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 10:29 PM
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9. No comment.
No comment until after November.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 10:30 PM
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10. What a great idea! Two seperate choirs preaching to themselves!
That will do a lot to unite the party! Why didn't I think of that?
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 10:30 PM
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12. So say you hate her so we can discuss 2k6.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 10:34 PM
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I DON'T HATE HILLARY!
Dammit, you just don't listen, do you?

I don't -- DO NOT -- hate Hillary. My posts have been about her polarizing voters, and you just serve to prove my point every time you do this. Jesus, I NEVER SAID I HATE HILLARY. I posted my concerns about her electability from a marketing standpoint. I don't hate Hillary (have I said it enough for you yet?) but you clearly have no time for anyone who refuses to bow down to her!
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 10:35 PM
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19. OK! SO WHAT ABOUT 2006? Isn't there anything important about
that you'd like to discuss.

What are your ideas about winning so we can get some impeachment hearings started?

Why worry about HC when we have impeachment hearings to start.

Don't you want to HEAR THE TRUTH????
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 10:55 PM
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44. "Don't you want to HEAR THE TRUTH????"
:eyes:

I give up.

I'm very active in local politics (I'm even an Assistant Registrar of Voters), and I'll be working on the Lamont campaign in order to help unseat Bush's kissing buddy, Joe Lieberman. If Ned won't work towards impeachment if elected, I'll have to do some thinking about spending time on his campaign.

Do I meet ANY of your lofty standards, xultar? BTW...what exactly are YOU doing to have earned the cred to tell the rest of who we're supposed to support and when?

.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 11:06 PM
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50. I have no credit. It is March of 2k6. If not now then when? October?
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waiting for hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 10:30 PM
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11. Well, I don't want her to run either
for her next move will be against pro-choice. Who knows who she'll pander to next, probably a fundamentalist group's movement for she's buying votes..
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 10:31 PM
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14. Good. So now how are we going to win 2k6. If you have any great
ideas on 2k6 please start a new thread so we can discuss those things.

That is where our focus needs to be.
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Clarkie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 10:35 PM
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18. I think we should do all we can.
To get the "Band of Brothers" (and sisters) elected to congress.

There is no better way we can honor the service of all our vets or improve the image of the Democratic Party.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 10:38 PM
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24. Thank you. You'd think we could all say. OK HC forget about her
the RW is bringing her up anyways.

Why don't we concentrate on 2006 instead of letting them distract us with HC?

BUT noooooooo.

People here are falling into the RW trap. They are letting the RW define us instead of us doing our own thing to win in 2006.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 10:45 PM
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32. worrying about the hil ain't gonna get us anywhere
it's pretty much a none issue. Please don't rile the feathers of those who might not agree that hillary is the worst thing to come down the pike.
peace


please
lov'ya
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 10:52 PM
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40. I'm not trying to rile them. I'm saying that I give. They win. I agree.
Now lets move on and get 2k6 started.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 11:01 PM
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48. Yes, to say we are brothers and sisters for crushing the bfee
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 10:31 PM
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13. SURE!!! There's One Right Here!
Edited on Fri Mar-10-06 10:32 PM by OPERATIONMINDCRIME
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Texasgal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 10:31 PM
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15. In the end...
Hillary will hurt us. I know this is hard for some to accept. but it is true.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 10:34 PM
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17. OK. So now what about 2k6? We've folded we all agree with you
you are right.
she shouldn't run in 2k8 or ever for that fact.

Now start working on 2k6.

Post other threads about your ideas for winning in 2k6.
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Texasgal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 10:37 PM
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23. I have nothing to add..
which makes me look foolish I am sure, but I do know that Hillary will not help us. I am willing ad able to look and follow some ideas, but I will admit... I have none. :shrug:
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 10:43 PM
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29. I posted a week a go for us to research and find dirt on all RW 2k6
candiates.

I'm trying to think of slogans, grassroots stuff that will catch fire and spread.

DUers are creative. Think on it. T-shirt designs anything to get people to wake up and vote our way so we can get impeachment investigations and hearings started.

So just thin about it and sleep on it. Post ideas as they come. They will come. I have faith we will come up with something BRILLIANT and people will see the light!
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Texasgal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 10:47 PM
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33. I admire your tenacity...
I am just so damn tired.. ya know?
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 10:51 PM
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38. I know.. But there seems to be so much energy directed at disliking
HC when we can put that towards getting some people in the house to vote and start some investigations on Bush's ass.

I mean for Gawd sake. Dems in the House and Senate can't even schedule rooms to hold hearings.

We've got to do something about that so we can get some hearings to get the truth out.

We keep complaining that the kool-aid drinkers don't hear the truth. Well winning in 2k6 can help get the truth out.

So we gotta do it!

Rest a couple of weeks then come on back ideas for 2k6 will always be welcome!

:pals:
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Texasgal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 10:55 PM
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45. I sincerely admire you...
I will do what I can. I will always look to you as an inspiration when I am down in the "political dumps" Your a class act! :)

Funny thing, I have not participated in any of the Hillary bashing... it's too heated for me, however... I do have an opinion about her.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 11:12 PM
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51. I'm all for opinions. She doesn't rock my world. But she's a distraction
I don't like the RW playing in our stuff.

Why are they so concerned about her they need to feed stories to the media about her every week?

What about that aren't we getting.

I like Clark. I want him to run. But Right now I don't care if Clark ever runs. Right now I'm all about 2k6. I don't even hang out in the Clark forums any more.

I want to win 2k6 so badly. It needs to be a landslide. I talk with everyone I can. Hotel workers, seatmates on planes, the ladies @ the hair salon, people @ the rent a car. I just start talkin usually by asking them if they are voting this year. Then I lay some facts on them about Bush. I'm talkin to people letting them know that this year is important.

I talk to young blacks saying you gotta vote no complainin if you don't vote bruva and sistah...
I've never done that before.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 10:40 PM
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26. I don't know why folks think she'll run anyway.
There has been no official word from her or her camp, so I don't plan on discussing it.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 10:45 PM
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31. Got ideas for 2k6? Sleep on it and post your brillance tomorrow!
Think slogans, t-shirt designs campaigns.

Anything that people will catch on to and start them to thinking that they shouldn't vote rethuglican.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 10:48 PM
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34. I'll bite, remember the bush's
is all we need
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sheelz Donating Member (869 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 10:52 PM
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39. We need to focus on this November!
I don't want Hillary to run either. Maybe there should be a Hillary forum way way in the back of DU.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 10:53 PM
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43. 11/2006 11/2006 11/2006 11/2006 11/2006 11/2006 11/2006 11/2006
11/2006 11/2006 11/2006 11/2006 11/2006 11/2006 11/2006 11/2006 11/2006 11/2006 11/2006 11/2006
11/2006 11/2006 11/2006 11/2006 11/2006 11/2006 11/2006 11/2006 11/2006 11/2006 11/2006 11/2006
11/2006 11/2006 11/2006 11/2006 11/2006 11/2006 11/2006 11/2006 11/2006 11/2006 11/2006 11/2006
11/2006 11/2006 11/2006 11/2006 11/2006 11/2006 11/2006 11/2006 11/2006 11/2006 11/2006 11/2006
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 10:53 PM
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42. Just funnel those posts into the Israel/Palestine and September 11 forums.
With all the useful dialog.
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sheelz Donating Member (869 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 11:00 PM
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47. Good idea!
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johncoby2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 11:04 PM
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49. PLEASE DO! Get the *uckin idiots off of DU central.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 11:17 PM
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52. Well... I Like Her As A Friend, But I Wouldn't Wanna VOTE For Her !!!
:rofl: :evilgrin: :rofl:

I hear ya...

2006 first.

:hi:
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ToeBot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 11:22 PM
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53. Segregationist! n/t
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 11:29 PM
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54. For the record I do not hate Senator Clinton
I just think that there are some Democrats that are more electable than she is. And in return there are senators who are less electable than she is.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 07:47 AM
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55. I'm just trying to clear the decks with this thread. Saying no need
to waste time and post shit on HC. We all agree...that she shouldn't run.

That way the RW distractions from 2k6 won't be effective.
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 07:57 AM
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56. What of other obsessions?
Why not just lump 'em all into a forum? The "Beat it like a Dead Horse" forum? Or the "Revel in your Obsession" forum?

Just adding some thoughts to your good idea. :toast:

Julie
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 07:58 AM
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57. and a Hillary worshiping forum
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 08:29 AM
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58. Whatever happened to: this is my candidate, and this is where they stand?
Edited on Sat Mar-11-06 08:30 AM by bigtree
What's the point in tearing at potential Democratic candidates anyway? In what way are they worse than any potential republican? It seems like too many have lost sight of what happens when a party takes over the White House. Everything changes.

If a Democrat, ANY Democrat, happens to win, there will be a sea change in our government and in our lives for the better. We're talking Cabinet appointments, judgeships, committees, executive orders . . . the meddling Bush has done is startling. ANY Democrat who we elevate to that office will undo the catastrophe.

There is no comparison or contest with ANY of our Democrats who have been mentioned as potential candidates and ANY republican. Our focus should be on the ultimate opposition, who, at this moment, have Bush and Cheney as their poster boys to cement the public's idea of what a republican candidate would do if elected. And the public thinks they stink.

The time is ripe for our party to unite against this regime and take our country back. Save the hate for the real opposition. Unite against republicans.
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Joe Fields Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 09:07 AM
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59. Children PLEASE! I'll have to put you into time out!
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