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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 06:39 PM
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VIDEO - What and who is the Carlyle Group (controlling our ports)
Edited on Fri Mar-10-06 06:41 PM by helderheid
Broadband:
http://cgi.omroep.nl/cgi-bin/streams?/tv/vpro/tegenlich...

Dial-Up:
http://cgi.omroep.nl/cgi-bin/streams?/tv/vpro/tegenlich...

Must have Real Player.

(short intro in Dutch - the rest is English)

Edited to add - it is close to an hour long so if you watch it and find it worthwhile (I think it's DU required viewing), please come kick the thread.
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 06:48 PM
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1. I saw it a while back and it is definately worth watching. K&R
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 07:06 PM
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2. thank you :)
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 07:08 PM
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3. thanks for posting...i've seen this video and recommend
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 07:37 PM
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4. Most welcome. I thought it was timely.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 08:41 AM
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16. please keep at it, by the way
DU is a very interesting place to learn new info. I love all the links and opinion. Please keep up the good work! :kick:
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 09:11 PM
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5. .
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 09:44 PM
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6. Can I get just one more rec? I'm actually feeling pretty good that this
is dropping off the page - I am assuming all y'all already saw it when I posted the thread last time! :)
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spindrifter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 10:14 PM
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7. Thanks! You are right,
every DU person ought to see this.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 10:32 PM
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8. Pretty fucking enlightening stuff! Applause to Dutch TV!
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 10:40 PM
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9. Thank you for this. Dennis Kucinich has demanded port deal-related
documents INCLUDING WH DISCUSSIONS WITH THE CARLYLE GROUP. Here's a current thread on that and some older threads on the central role of the Carlyle Groupl:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
thread title (3-10-06 GD): Kucinich: Port Deal Not Dead; Introduces ResolutionTo Obtain Documents
From the After Downing Street site. Excerpt: Congressman Dennis J. Kucinich (D-OH), Ranking Member of the House Government Reform Subcommittee on National Security, Emerging Threats and International Relations, today, introduced a rarely used Congressional procedure called a Resolution of Inquiry to demand documents from the Administration about the security review of the port deal that would have allowed a United Arab Emirates (UAE) company to take control of six US ports. A Resolution of Inquiry is a privileged resolution used to obtain documents from the Executive Branch. Under House rules, Kucinich's resolution is referred to the House Financial Services Committee, and action must be taken in committee within 14 legislative days."The port deal is not dead," stated Kucinich. Much as they would like to, Congress must not allow this Administration to sweep this under the rug. Congress must fulfill its Constitutional duty and provide aggressive oversight of this ill-advised and misguided deal. Congress must continue to investigate this deal to ensure similar deals, which put the security of our nation at grave risk, can not happen again.
Among the documents sought is: All documents in their possession regarding discussions between the White House and the Carlyle Group between October 1, 2005, and March 2, 2006.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
thread title (2-18-06 GD): In light of the sale of 6 US ports to the United Arab Emirates, PNAC VIDEO
Comment/excerpt: Links to two Dutch VIDEOS, one 20 min and one 48 min. They are in English about the PNAC, the Carlyle group, and the greedy corporate network ruling the world today.. Reply #8 has a summary. Excerpt: No civilised country would tolerate the close relationship Carlyle and, by practical extension, United States' president George W. Bush, enjoy with the Saudi royal family and its cohorts in terror, repression and murder. The behaviour of those setting the agenda of our global future is unconscionable at best and downright evil when taken at face value. The documentary is thoroughly researched, well presented, and carries no trace of the conspiratorial. The facts speak for themselves. Sowing death, destruction and terror about the globe, George W. Bush and his power-crazed sidekicks, supporters and collaborators are everything they pretend others to be; namely, global terrorists bent on furthering selfish interests.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
thread title (2-20-06 GD-P): the connection to it all - Carlyle Group involved in port security deal
Comment/excerpt: MM&P-contracted CSX Lines, the US-flag container shipping subsidiary of CSX Inc., will be sold to the Carlyle Group, a private equity firm based in Washington, DC for $300M. The acquisition will give Carlyle control over the nation's largest Jones Act container fleet and will add to the company's growing transportation portfolio. CSX Lines will be renamed Horizon Lines LLC, when the transaction is completed early next year pending regulatory approval. CSX Lines is the nation's largest ocean transport company, with 17 US-flag vessels and 22,000 containers, providing ocean transportation and logistics services to and from the US, Alaska, Hawaii, Guam, and Puerto Rico. Carlyle's other maritime holdings include Seabulk International, formerly Hvide Marine, which owns and operates 10 Jones Act tankers in the Gulf of Mexico. Through United Defense Industries, Carlyle controls United States Marine Repair, the nation's largest non-nuclear ship repair and conversion company
John Snow, the CEO of CSX, was appointed Treasury Secretary by the younger President Bush last week.
and more they want to get into NUCLEAR SUBMARINES TOO


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
thread title (2-20-06 GD): Carlyly Group's involvement in port security company
Comment/excerpt: Same main article as the GD-P thread about sale of CSX lines to Carlyle, appointment of former CSX CEO as Sec of Treasury. Reply 24: DUBAI PORT WORLD THE ONES BUYING THE AMERICAN PORTS OWN CSX!!! CSX also owns biggest rail in the east, plus trucking.(Reply #30) But Reply #34 says DPW bought the terminal business from CSX for cash and does NOT own CSX, only a business CSX once owned.
Much needs to be clarified, but there are lots of dots there to connect, and it all comes back to sellout by the Bushies for money and to please their MidEast patrons.

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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 11:03 PM
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10. Bush got me involved in politics but it was Kucinich who got me to stay. >
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 11:13 PM
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11. Yes, DK is the real thing, a courageous, canny hero when we need them
Edited on Fri Mar-10-06 11:15 PM by Nothing Without Hope
so desperately. John Conyers is another. There are more, and each one is vital.

These truth-tellers and action-takers are, of course, excluded from the usual politics-as-usual DLC/DNC business. And we all suffer for that. It must end.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 11:34 PM
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12. it absolutely must end.
Edited on Fri Mar-10-06 11:35 PM by helderheid

The Buddha's Words on Kindness (Metta Sutta)



This is what should be done
By one who is skilled in goodness,
And who knows the path of peace:
Let them be able and upright,
Straightforward and gentle in speech.
Humble and not conceited,
Contented and easily satisfied.
Unburdened with duties and frugal in their ways.
Peaceful and calm, and wise and skillful,
Not proud and demanding in nature.
Let them not do the slightest thing
That the wise would later reprove.
Wishing: In gladness and in saftey,
May all beings be at ease.
Whatever living beings there may be;
Whether they are weak or strong, omitting none,
The great or the mighty, medium, short or small,
The seen and the unseen,
Those living near and far away,
Those born and to-be-born,
May all beings be at ease!

Let none deceive another,
Or despise any being in any state.
Let none through anger or ill-will
Wish harm upon another.
Even as a mother protects with her life
Her child, her only child,
So with a boundless heart
Should one cherish all living beings:
Radiating kindness over the entire world
Spreading upwards to the skies,
And downwards to the depths;
Outwards and unbounded,
Freed from hatred and ill-will.
Whether standing or walking, seated or lying down
Free from drowsiness,
One should sustain this recollection.
This is said to be the sublime abiding.
By not holding to fixed views,
The pure-hearted one, having clarity of vision,
Being freed from all sense desires,
Is not born again into this world.
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 11:41 PM
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13. One of the great treasures of the world. Here's a version of a Metta
Prayer I'm fond of:

"May all beings be happy content and fulfilled, May all beings be healed and whole, May all have what they want and need, May all be protected from harm and free from fear, May all beings enjoy inner peace and ease, May all beings be awakened liberated and free, And may there be peace in this world and throughout the entire universe."

I don't think Bush and his enablers think this way. :sarcasm:
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 11:11 AM
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17. it's exactly the opposite with them:
For them it's "May all beings be dependent and unsatisfied, may all beings be diseased and dependent on the pharmacutical companies. May all be enslaved, may all be controlled by fear, may all beings be at war, may they slumber under the controlled media and think they are free, and may there be perpetual war in this world and throughout the entire universe."

Sound about right?
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 06:13 PM
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18. Yes, you have it EXACTLY right.
:scared:

They can't be happy beings, doing what they do, but the amount of misery, death and horror they generate for the rest of the world is worse.
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 11:45 PM
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14. I see your links on this Dutch video are also up at CAN-O-FUN:
http://www.canofun.com/cof/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=1...

Glad to see this - additional people will notice. DU threads disappear into archives when they just acquire their greatest usefulness, but the Can-o-Fun link will be easier to see for a long time.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 08:00 AM
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15. Yes, I just registered there! CanOFun is fantastic - thanks liveoaktv!!
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Clara T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 06:30 PM
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19. kick for truth
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never cry wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 06:39 PM
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20. k & r, thx for posting watched it all. no new news but well presented
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 07:07 PM
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21. :)
:patriot:
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 07:09 PM
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22. I watched it again last night
That is an EXCELLENT piece of journalism! :applause:

:kick:

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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 07:11 PM
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23. Can this video be downloaded as a .mov, in QuickTime format?
I'd like to burn it on some CDs and pass them around.

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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 07:13 PM
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24. I have no idea. I've only found it in real player format. Is it possible
to convert it? Making DVDs is an EXCELLENT idea!! Local groups could host house parties and play it.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 07:20 PM
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25. I am looking all over that website, but apparently they only stream it.
Edited on Sat Mar-11-06 07:21 PM by Swamp Rat
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 07:23 PM
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26. I just found this
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 07:25 PM
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27. Here is Dan Briody's website:
http://danbriody.blogs.com /

Maybe we can contact him and get a copy?

I will check out the converter (I use a Mac).
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 07:36 PM
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28. We can buy it!
http://www.vpro.nl/programma/tegenlicht/service_info/80... /

I will check into this - I will need to make sure they can get us an NTSC copy!
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 07:48 PM
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29. With the best Dutch I could muster, I've emailed them and asked if
I can get a copy on DVD in NTSC format. Here's hoping!! I'll be in Holland in a couple months. I may be able to have them send the copy to my in-laws.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 07:58 PM
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31. GREAT!
I wish I was going too! ... I miss Holland. :cry:

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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 10:04 PM
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36. I've heard nothing back from them - I will try again!
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 07:54 PM
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30. Well, if they only have a PAL version,
it can be ripped, converted, then saved as NTSC (all regions). And English translation for the intro would be nice too, but maybe that is asking too much for now.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 09:02 PM
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32. GREAT idea!! BTW, are you from Holland?
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 09:13 PM
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33. No, but I've been there about 8 times.
I've been to many places in Holland, but I especially liked Groningen. :)

I have family in Madrid, so I will be returning to Spain sometime hopefully this year... if I recover financially, physically, and mentally from Katrina by then. I might arrange for my flight to go through Schiphol in Amsterdam if I have time.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 11:35 PM
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34. I didn't know you were in the Katrina path - I am so glad you're safe!!
I lived in Holland from 1999-2001 - I finally felt at home in 2001 and then moved back home (only to have it totally taken away one month later 9/11). I am excited to return but I've always been a nervous flier. I haven't flown since I got really politically involved and now I am REALLY scared to fly!!
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 11:49 PM
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44. I spent the Summer of 2001 there
;)

:kick:

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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 08:47 AM
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45. DAMN DAMN DAMN - their reply
Helaas is deze aflevering niet te koop vanwege rechten. Ik kan u niet
aan een opname helpen. Het spijt me dat ik u niet van dienst kan zijn.

Met vriendelijke groet,

Bart Baas

VPRO Publieksservice
* b.baas@vpro.nl
' 035-6712272, fax: 035-6712734
postbus 11, 1200 JC Hilversum
http://winkel.vpro.nl Routebeschrijving: http://www.vpro.nl/route

Unfortunately this episode is not for sale due to rights. I cannot help you get it. I am sorry that I cannot be of service to you.

Sincerely,
Bart Bass
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 12:54 PM
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35. one more vid kick
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 10:10 PM
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37. thanks!
:hug:
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 11:17 PM
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38. it ain't archived so I will kick
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 11:23 PM
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39. KICK
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 11:27 PM
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40. Carlyle owns Dunkin' Donuts and Baskin Robbins, too!
Watch out for those shipments of powdered donuts!

;-)
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 11:35 PM
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41. ok- i'd believe you except for the Baskin Robbins part!
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 11:41 PM
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42. ack!!
:donut:
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 11:46 PM
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43. I gather from the "ack!" that you did a search
and found out I wasn't joking.

Sometimes life just isn't fair!
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 08:48 AM
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46. yes, but wasn't the baskin robbins guy a liberal??
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