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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 01:49 PM
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Why is Bush on MSNBC talking about how
the patriot act will help catch drug dealers? Was this not for terrorist? People better wake up, they are going to use this for every single situation they can.. Terrorist my ASS!!!!!!
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NoodleyAppendage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 01:52 PM
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1. Because Schumer, Reid, Clinton, & others are NOW SPEAKING ABOUT PORTS
King Chimp ALWAYS hogs the media waves when other damaging stuff is going on.

JB
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 01:52 PM
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2. Patriot Act will catch drugrunning terrorists like Poppy Bush, James Bath,
Adnan Khasogghi, and the rest of the BFEE?
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 01:52 PM
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3. More desperation...
They are using the Patriot Act to monitor the sale of certain cold medications because of the explosion of Meth labs and Meth use....

Wouldn't it be easier to give states the money and let them hire personell and get equipment to fight it on a local basis?
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 02:08 PM
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10. You would think
Our governor here in Tn has been fighting meth labs. They now have it to where any medicine that can be used in making meth is now behind the counter and you have to have a subscription. Of course that's just one example.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 01:54 PM
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4. Because he just signed it's reauthorization into law today.
I know the signing celebration was to take place around 2PM est.
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 02:02 PM
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5. Those who sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither...... nt
Russ Feingold was the only one who tried to make amendments to this...
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Metta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 02:03 PM
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6. Bait and switch.
No surprise.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 02:03 PM
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7. All they now have to say is
"we're at war." War with whom? All they say is "the enemy" but who is the enemy?
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radio4progressives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 02:10 PM
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13. Pogo's Prescient Words of Wisdom
"We have met the enemy, and the Enemy is Us"
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JohnnyRingo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 02:06 PM
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8. And illegal music downloads
And to track down deadbeat dads
Or people wanted on federal warrants
Stop worker compensation fraud
And to find wayward democrats fleeing from redistricting motions.
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LibinMo Donating Member (364 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 02:07 PM
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9. See my thread from last night
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...


The reason my area is deemed high risk is due to "drug trafficking". We do have a big meth problem in Missouri, but I doubt there are many terrorists.

They will use ANY EXCUSE to infiltrate our private lives under this act.

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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 02:08 PM
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11. Oh, and titty bars and texas dems who flee the state
"but don't worry, we will only use the patriot act against foreign terrorists. you have nothing to worry about."

He's such an idiot.
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 02:10 PM
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12. Oh shit that is me
A Texas Dem who is thinking about moving to RI.... Oh No.....
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 02:11 PM
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14. Get out while you can...
I have no regrets!!
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 02:13 PM
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16. My husband comes from RI
it is a very liberal state, I want to live in a liberal state....
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 02:17 PM
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18. It will blow your mind....like a breath of fresh air...
I live in the Seattle, WA area....
Don't get me wrong there are neocon repugs here but I think there is more of us than them....

The only thing I really miss about the South is my family and Fried Food!!

I wish you and your hubby the best!! :hi:
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 02:19 PM
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20. Thanks, you must love it where you live
I think I will feel safe in a blue state.. Sounds paranoid, but better paranoid than left in Texas... I would not put it past them to make us stay in our states at some point....
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 02:35 PM
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22. That has crossed my mind....
If it keeps going I think the country will split into a Blue USA and a Red USA. Call me crazy but our ideals and hopes have moved to polar opposites and they will never be reconciled....I would actually prefer this so people who like us are free thinking, care about our fellow man, and want the world to be a better place can progress towards those goals!
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RufusEarl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 02:13 PM
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15. Didn't you get the memo?
Drugs fund terrorist = wiretapping any and everyone in the world to catch terrorist. Simple really.
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sonsera Donating Member (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 02:14 PM
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17. They already are- -
Saw this on BatCop yesterday.
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Pay too much, Feds get Involved
Bush is crazier than you think


Excerpt:
The balance at JCPenney had gotten to an unhealthy level.
So they sent in a large payment, a check for $6,522.
The check had arrived, but the amount on their account hadn't changed.

They were told that the amount they had sent in was much larger than their normal monthly payment.
And if the increase hits a certain percentage higher than normal, Homeland Security has to be notified.
And the money doesn't move until the threat alert is lifted.

Walter made some inquiries and found out about the Bank Privacy Act.

BartCop:
So, the "Bank Privacy Act" means Bush is all in your business - again?
The government investigates you if you write a check for $6500?
Is this another "secret law" that nobody knows about?

I'm so old, I remember when the GOP was about "less government,"
but that was before they traded their souls for Der Monkey's "jenius."

C'mon, GOP - you're going to have to stop this madman sooner or later.
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 02:17 PM
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19. When I worked at the bank it used to be anything
over 10,000.00 in cash, apparently that amount has decreased and not only do banks but all cc cards report these amount, maybe even mortgage companies as well...

They probably have dropped the amount to 5,000.00 dollar flag or something like that...

Sad shit isn't it?
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 02:33 PM
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21. Why do you think it was voted on so soon after 9/11? Do you think
they drafted this horror of a set of laws overnight?

Hell no!. They ALWAYS wanted this stuff for the drug war.

The drug war has been the best way to strip us of our civil rights the oligarchy has ever discovered. Hell, some of us who are parents who want our kids to grow up drug free even supported it. There's nothing like having people chain themselves!

Aristocrats hate power residing with the people. They came up with this stuff a very long time ago. They were just waiting to scare Congress into passing it.
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 02:57 PM
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24. Yes I know this is decades in the making
I was surprised to hear Bush outright say it will be a tool for fighting the drug war. They just do it and not say anything other than terra...
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 02:38 PM
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23. The Patriot Act was ALWAYS about drugs.
If you read the fine print, it's clear that they wanted to destroy the 4th Amendment.

The section on delaying the execution of a warrant basically says that a person can be searched without their knowledge for SUSPICION OF ANY CRIME.

Not reasonable suspicion, not probable cause. They can search your home for any reason at all.
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