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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 09:26 PM
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Question - how can we logistically pull troops out?
I've been considering the logistics. Since our troops seem to be isolated is a sea of angry Iraqis, it seems like it may be very hard to move them out without some very careful planning and precision execution. And then there will probably still be many killed. And what about the contractors?
God, what a mess these assholes have put our troops in.
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yourout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 09:28 PM
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1. Contractors are Mercs.......let them get out on there own.
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 09:29 PM
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2. I'm sure KB&R will just charge the US Taxpayers a Gazillion dollars
to have them handle the "logistics". Remember, they can handle ANYTHING!
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 09:32 PM
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5. I am just feeling sorry for the troops
While we call for withdrawal- and God knows I want us out tomorrow - withdrawing may be one of the toughest things we can do. And with the clowns we got for leaders, they couldn't plan recess for kindergarten.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 09:30 PM
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3. The a$$hats do not want either of them to ever come home.
If you were a NeoConvicts bent on imposing your FASCIST view on the country would you want a hundred thousand armed pissed vets on the loose?
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hexola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 09:32 PM
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4. I thought of that too...how the hell DO you get out...?
Edited on Sat Mar-04-06 09:35 PM by hexola
At some point - these guys are going to become very vulnerable...

I doubt they can go out the way they came in -

I certainly don't wish for it - but I've always been afraid the insurgents or whoever could score a huge kill on our guys...like a few hundred at once. Seems more probable as we leave...
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 09:34 PM
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6. And there ain't enough airplanes.
I doubt that Iran will give us refuge. It's like someone will have to plan an escape from Alcatraz.
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 11:04 PM
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11. They can do it any time they want
First things first: get the word Insurgent out of your vocabulary. That's the cruelest Bushism/RW talking point of all. These people are not insurgents. An insurgent is a "rebel not recognized as a belligerent," according to Webster. The force that is fighting our soldiers in Iraq does not consist of rebels. They have a chain of command. They have proper equipment, and they have adequate training--because the force that is fighting our soldiers is Saddam Hussein's army, which Bush fired en masse right after he stole the country.

These guys have artillery. I'm going to take a wild stab and assume they also have cavalry who know what an American counterbattery radar looks like. If their guys take out our firefinder radars, they can shell any one of our base camps with almost no worries about getting shelled themselves. Do it at night, and they can take out several thousand troops at once.

And if it happens, the first thing out of Pigboy Limbaugh's mouth will be "Clinton." You know it will.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 09:39 PM
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7. They'll all be coming home, one way or another...
Edited on Sat Mar-04-06 09:39 PM by Breeze54
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jimshoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 09:55 PM
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8. It seems kind of ironic
that we would have to fight our way out of Iraq, after mission accomplished and all that. Pssst, hey Rummy, you got us in, now get us out.
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 10:10 PM
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9. Start sending convoys to Kuwait, and C-130s loaded with troops
out tomorrow. If we announced that we were leaving as long as no one fucked with us and then we really began leaving, we could do it. It really isn't that hard - just do the reverse of what we did in March '03...
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tech3149 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 10:46 PM
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10. same answer as Vietnam
trucks, ships, and planes. Sorry if I sound snarky but there's no room for discussion here.
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 11:46 PM
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13. and helicopters from the hi-risers will do
at the last minute.

dp
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 11:20 PM
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12.  fill the the planes up and fly as many home as possible
then what ever is left that can make it to kuwait is guarded by aircraft and tanks.pretty dam simple.fuck the contractors let them walk out
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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 11:54 PM
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14. Retreats are very difficult to execute, but
professionals are trained in how to properly conduct them.

You phase your withdrawel from staging area to area. You set up rear guards. You attack as diversions to keep pursuers off balance.

To see an expert retreat, read of Lee's retreat from Gettysburg. For a badly done one, there's Napolean's retreat from Moscow. For a well executed retreat that still ended in disaster, there's Lee's retreat to Appomattox.

Our generals have studied each of them and will do it with as much professionalism as they can if called upon.
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