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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 07:21 PM
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Dean: they lied about the drug bill, lied about Iraq...MSNBC video.
Twice he used the word lied.

http://video.msn.com/v/us/v.htm?g=04a5eb08-45af-4725-ba...

And from earlier this week on The Situation Room, video:

http://www.emailthis.clickability.com/et/emailThis?clic...

You will have to click the button that says your popup blocker is blocking it.

Snip from Transcript, he calls Lieberman an "outlier".

"DICK CHENEY, VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Some have suggested this war is not winnable, and a few seem almost eager to conclude that the struggle is already lost. They are wrong. The only way to lose this fight is to quit, and quitting is not an option.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BLITZER: I said he seemed to be taking direct aim at you because you had been quoted as saying the war was not winnable.

DEAN: Well, I don't think the war is winnable under this leadership. This is a leadership that has made the biggest mess, not just of this war, but of our security in general. Here we are, five years into the presidency of George W. Bush. The North Koreans still have nuclear weapons, the Iranians are about to get them. Our troops are sent into battle without adequate body armor. Our ports are not secure, and now we find that they're being run under the jurisdiction of other countries. What is this administration? Karl Rove thinks that security is going to be the issue? It's going to be the issue, all right. It's going to be the issue that elects Democrats. These people cannot figure out how to defend America in a reasonable way. And I think the American people are sick of this. And you've seen the polls as well as I have.

BLITZER: The Democratic Party, though, seems to be all over the place, from John Murtha saying a phased withdrawal is important, to Joe Lieberman, who said the other day this: "In my opinion, we are better off with Saddam Hussein gone, and we now have an opportunity to build within Iraq a self-governing, modernizing country that will really provide an alternative in the Arab world to the hatred and suicidal death that al Qaeda offers." The Democrats don't speak with one voice by any means.

DEAN: You're always going to get some outliers. I think everybody would agree that we're better off that Saddam has gone, but certainly not safer. But Joe is out there, with supporting the president. I think most Democrats -- and Chuck Hagel sometimes supports us. You're always going to get a few people in each party that are with the other side, and that's fine.


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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 07:24 PM
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1. says video not available
whats up with that
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 07:29 PM
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3. Try this link...it is slow loading.
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 07:31 PM
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6. It worked for me after an annoying commercial.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 07:36 PM
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7. Thanks for letting me know. I thought it did.
:hi:
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 07:40 PM
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10. Same here, but there's a search feature. I plugged in 'Dean' to get it.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 07:40 PM
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11. Sometimes a pop-up blocker or internet security still stop video.
I have to turn off my blocker sometimes to get the video.
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DIKB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 07:29 PM
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2. Go Howard!!!
I'm SICK of people using the term misinformed. They are FUCKING LYING ASSHOLES!! Call them for what they are.
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G2099 Donating Member (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 07:31 PM
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4. And the dems go along with and support the repuks lies
Edited on Sat Mar-04-06 07:32 PM by G2099
The dems and repuks are in bed together. There is no hope in either.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 07:31 PM
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5. Norah O is so snide with him about levees "breeched" and "topped"
He told her clearly one would lead to the other. Did not take her crap on this.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 07:38 PM
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8. Only because we can't handle the truth..... on the other hand... the
truth flies around pretty regularly right here..... so that lets the air out of that one.
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 07:39 PM
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9. Oh, you found it! I looked and looked and feared I'd been hallucinating
:crazy:

He *did* say pretty much what I remembered. I couldn't figure out why the video wasn't all over the place.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 07:41 PM
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12. It is impossible to find at MSNBC. I found it accidentally...
while searching for Dubai, ports at Ask Jeeves. Weird, huh?
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 10:24 PM
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16. In fact....I tried again at MSNBC...nothing.
I don't even see a way to access videos that are not latest news. :shrug:
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 11:08 PM
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17. Go down a bar from the screen on the video page you linked
There's a search feature there- "MSN Video search". Key in "howard dean" and the vid should come up. That's how it worked for me, anyway.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 07:51 PM
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13. From the CNN transcript about leaving Iraq..
"The truth is, there is something approaching consensus in the Democratic side. There's not a lot of difference between Joe Biden and Jack Murtha. There may be some difference on timing, but the -- we know we have to leave Iraq. We know we can't stay there. We know this president's idea of staying there forever or whatever it was that Dick Cheney said -- we've heard that in Vietnam. We're not going to make the same mistake twice.

The truth of the matter is, you cannot have a permanent commitment to a failed strategy. This president never had a strategy to win in Iraq.

Let me remind you and the audience: Donald Rumsfeld's testimony before the Congress that said the Iraqi oil was going to pay for all this -- here we are, $400 billion added to our deficit, because that wasn't true; that General Shinseki testified that we needed more troops, but this administration ignored him."

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0603/01/sitroom....
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 08:01 PM
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14. The MSNBC clip came up without problems for me. Dean has a lot of weight
on his shoulders. Dear God, it must be a nightmare trying to manage the message from the DLC'ers and keep the connection with us "outside the beltway" folks.

Everytime I see him, I breathe a little sigh of relief that he's on our side, fighting the good fight.

MKJ
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 08:33 PM
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15. He actually sighed during the CNN interview...I thought of that.
How hard it must be to be a bridge between the two...when he sighed, kind of smiled and said he was eagerly awaiting that positive message from the hill. Context here:

"BLITZER: A lot of Democratic strategists, though, feel frustrated that the Democrats have not been able to capitalize on the failures that they perceive of this administration. Barack Obama, Democratic senator from Illinois: "We have been in a reactive posture for too long. I think we have been very good at saying no, but not good enough at saying yes."

DEAN: I await the positive message from the Hill. I absolutely agree with that. But I actually that in -- although, in all due respect to Senator Obama, who I am a huge fan of -- we are getting it together with a message. Our message is very clear.

We want honesty and integrity back in our government again. We want a national security -- a tough, strong national security policy, but one that relies on telling the truth to our citizens, our soldiers and our allies. We want a health care system that works for everybody, like 36 other countries have. We want American jobs that will stay in America, using energy independence as a new industry to generate them. And we want a strong public education system to give us opportunity and optimism back in America. I think that's a good place to start".
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