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Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 01:19 AM
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Do you believe you are smarter than the media?
Try to answer this question in your own words.

(If you need further explanation... do you believe that you possess better critical thinking skills than those who write, edit, and package the news media?)
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 01:22 AM
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1. my dog's diarrhea is smarter than the media
poor boy has a bac terial infection.
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radio4progressives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 01:29 AM
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7. LOL!!!
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 01:23 AM
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2. My short answer is yes.
My long answer is that of course there are many real journalists with much better critical thinking skills than I possess. But if you are referring to the cable newsreaders, yes. Some of them are also much more intelligent than I am, but they are either lazy or doing the bidding of their masters.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 01:24 AM
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3. Is this a trick question?
:spank:
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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 01:26 AM
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4. No, just more principled
they put everything unquestioningly in the RW frame and parrot the administration talking points.

THey don't subject anything into historical or analytical context, but that's not because they're stupid, just complicit.
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radio4progressives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 01:31 AM
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8. not just complicit . they're fucking dumb, don't even know our own history
blah blah blah blah - fucking shills and morons to boot.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 01:33 AM
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10. hear hear
:pals:
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datadiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 01:26 AM
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5. No not smarter, just more honest n/t
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Orangepeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 03:22 AM
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26. word for word what I was going to post!!!
so, I agree.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 01:27 AM
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6. I KNOW for a fact that I "seem' to be better at researching
and making connections to current stories in the news. The so-called elite media either are dumber than a box of rocks, or they are deliberately ignoring the "foundational" issues of the stories they are covering in "real-time". I have a sneaking suspicion that they do this so they do not have to give credit to people who have previously done the legwork. They just re-invent the wheel with every story and if the public is not industrious, they do not ever get the "backstory"..

I know they are "capable", because for 10 years, they had NO TROUBLE digging up past 'dirt' on the Clintons..
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 01:33 AM
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9. It depends on what their REAL agenda is.
Some members of the media care only about ratings,
and are willing to say or do almost anything to get them;
I suppose they are probably much better at that sort
of inflammatory, amoral hucksterism than I ever could be.

Now, if we assume that these folks are actually attempting
to provide NEWS to the public, then they are obviously
pretty stupid and incompetent as a general rule.

At least I understand the notion of 'critical thinking';
that puts me head and shoulders above many members of the media.
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 01:36 AM
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11. Let's just say
I believe I have better skills than they're currently displaying.

How's that?
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 01:40 AM
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13. it is a matter of power not smarter..they simply have the power to silence
us
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 01:43 AM
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16. And that contradicts what I said...how?
:)
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 02:46 AM
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23. You're on fire tonight Mythsaje!
another excellent retort. :hug:
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 01:38 AM
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12. the TV media is owned by 4 Extremist Right Wing Fascist Corporations
it is now a matter of being smarter it is a matter of power..
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 01:40 AM
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14. Well, you be the judge ...
I have never asked a hysterically crying friend who has just found out that her husband ran off with his secretary, "So are you unhappy about this?"

I have never asked a neighbour, whose small daughter was missing for forty-eight hours and was finally found and returned home safely, "Are you glad the ordeal is over?"

I have never spent an entire week in a manic-depressive state because Brad broke up with Jen.

I have never spent an entire three days discussing the fact that Michael Jackson wore pyjama pants to court.

I have never asked anyone on their way to a gala event 'who' they're wearing.

So, no, I guess I'm not nearly as smart as the people I see in the 'media' doing the news every day.


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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 01:41 AM
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15. Not necessarily "smarter," and certainly not better informed,
but definitely more honest, and NOT bought and paid for! And that counts for a lot.
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PhilipShore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 01:44 AM
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17. I don't know...
because in my lifetime, I have never really learned anything new about the world -- from persons in the News business (the media).

I frankly can learn more from books about current events; from articles written back to around the 1940s, and before.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 01:48 AM
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18. No, but I'm more honest and less compromised. n/t
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 01:54 AM
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19. The MSM is uncurious, an adjective often ascribed to Bush himself
Lack of curiosity should be a disqualifier for anyone seeking a decision-making position.

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beltanefauve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 02:15 AM
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20. I'm not a Barbie doll
and my critical-thinking skills have not atrophied from years of whoring for my corporate masters.
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Ciggies and coffee Donating Member (174 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 02:41 AM
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21. Not stupid, they are paid well to do what they do
Hell, I think most people are not stupid, rather uninformed and/or distracted by what they hear. I stopped watching TV news years ago since I had the gut feeling something was missing. Things that popped into my mind, I browsed the web for. And I never even finished high school.
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 02:51 AM
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24. off topic inquiry... Why did you drop out?
I ask because I did too. IQ tests say I am Genius, but school seemed.... boring. I've spoken to several others, including members of my own family that had the same attitude.

Do we just have bad attitudes? :shrug:
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 02:44 AM
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22. The Media Are Not as Stupid as They Look
NOONE could be as stupid as the media looks.

Every day in every way they do the bidding of Karl Rove
in exchange, they get to buy up ever more TV and radio stations.


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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 03:19 AM
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25. it takes a LOT of intelligence (and work) to look that stupid . . .
so I'm certainly not smarter than these multi-billion dollar corporation with access to resouces beyond my wildest dreams . . .

but I can say with confidence that I, at least, that I at least try to be honest in how I analyze and discuss issues and information . . . something that the corporate media has used their massive "intelligence" to avoid at all costs . . . honesty doesn't suit their purposes -- or those of The Company (i.e. BushCo) . . .

today's media deals in propaganda, not news . . .
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 03:29 AM
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27. Yes
A thousand times yes. And I suspect it wouldn't matter how well I made my case, you'd just pick it apart because that's what you're really up to, and that's just how good my critical thinking skills are.

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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 03:33 AM
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28. Yes
I was part of them for seven years, until I quit. I know I'm smarter. I will bet money on it.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 03:39 AM
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29. The media is smarter than me, have more power than me, and
doesn't give a fuck about me or anyone like me.

They are smart enough to mislead and propagandize 24/7....and have "certain" people more stupid than me think that they are reporting the truth.

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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 04:59 AM
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30. i'm not bought and sold for
by the corporations that own the media.

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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 05:21 AM
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31. No
But I am not as greedy, as unethical, as partisan or as boldly indifferent as the media.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 07:03 AM
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32. TV is very good at what they do, but what they do is not journalism.
They can very quickly fill up hours of broadcasting time with stories of rich, blonde and powerful people doing interesting things. They can get an "expert" to comment on it on a moment's notice. They can give the people what they want.

Critical thinking, research & accuracy have nothing to do with it - they create constant noise with moving pictures and flapping jaws. Their content is fleeting and the messages are constantly mutating. They do this well. The pace of a TV newsroom is incredibly fast. It's like being a trader on the Wall Street floor, but the bell never rings.

Anybody who looks to these infotainment meat factories to stay informed is a fool. "News" for them is just a label, like "Lo-Carb" - it doesn't mean it's healty to consume. If you seek constant stimulation, and prefer "reality" as your medium, then TV news is for you.

Print journalism is similar now because newspapers don't have the money to staff themselves with good reporters, so they depend on the wire services. And what goes on in those newsrooms is similar to the TV news mills I just described.
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