Want to exploit freep types anger/confusion per the port deal?

[salin]

Ask them why, in their opinion, did Bush threaten *his first* veto if Congress tried to reject this deal, and then the next day the WH announces that Bush never knew about the deal? What does this say about Bush?

There are several possible responses, and getting folks to utter them while the scales have fallen (potentially very briefly) from their eyes, might get the 'awakening' moment to stick a little longer.

Possible responses:

a) He reacts quickly and aggressively to any criticism - sometimes without any information. *lingering thought... this guy has his fingers close to the red button... and maybe that UK story about his wanting to fly fake "UN" planes to provoke an Iraqi attack might be true... (and many other unnerving thoughts per what such a person might react to and do.)

b) He has such misguided faith in the cronies he puts into positions that he is willing to risk his political capital to show that faith that they could never be wrong *lingering though... could this explain going to war with no plan for after the invasion?... could this explain "great job Brownie"... does this man ever question his judgement... didn't he stammer and stumble upon the question of whether he could even think of a mistake he might have made as president? Could this man ever reverse a policy that might not be working... does he even care?*

c) He wouldn't have threatened the veto if he hadn't known about it *lingering thought... credibility... what else has he lied about while selling himself as a straight shooter who 'says what he means and does what he says?'

Many other responses with lingering thoughts (please add). The point is that rather than ranting - just put those two items together per the veto threat, then the "he didn't know about it" item - and ask the freep types to fill in the blanks per explanations. Yes, a few might go into the "he must know more than the rest of us..." or "its not a big deal" lines - but it seems that those denial lines are very hard for folks who have had their loyalty to bushco bonded upon the perpetual fear of terrorism sold by bushco.

[Cooley Hurd]

1. HIs "resoluteness" is his biggest flaw...

He makes up his mind and sticks to it, despite overwhelming evidence that he's wrong. That's not a man of character, that's a man with a character flaw.

[salin]

3. Indeed - and while we are at it

push further the question of why can't he believe he is ever wrong? What might that mean for our country in the next three years (exploit concern over control of congress and those who reflexively support any policy of bush - esp those right now trying to defend bush.)

[ClintonTyree]

5. Like his "Iraq Attack" resoluteness.......

he was bound and determined to invade Iraq no matter what. No intelligence backing up his claims....ATTACK! No exit strategy....ATTACK! No realistic idea of what happens after the invasion.....ATTACK!
Yeah, bush is "resolute" alright. :eyes: Resolute in his stubbornness and lack of facts. He's spoiled little child who wants his way no matter what, even in the face of overwhelming evidence why he shouldn't have his way.
Worst president ever. :puke:

[Libby2]

2. Cuz' he's a flop-flopper?

No typo.

[salin]

4. flop first

followed by a bigger and more grand flop?

[Hubert Flottz]

6. Right on the first day the story broke Bush claims that the ...

government had checked out every possibility and that the deal is in line with all our national security rules and regulations. He led everyone to believe that the government had been on top of this thing for a long period of time and had looked into everything about the deal. Then the very next day he claims he knew nothing about it?

[ChazII]

7. and if anyone is buying

that story, then I know some ocean front property in Arizona you can buy.