"Ed Schultz is a phony"

[RagingInMiami]

Mike Malloy just said. I love Malloy for telling it like it is.

[Renew Deal]

1. Malloy is correct.

Hopefully it continues to be said.

[linazelle]

7. Yep. Limpballs' twin brother. nt

[AntiCoup2K4]

2. Absolutely.

Malloy nails it again.

[rpannier]

3. Hate to disagree

I like Ed. I stream him from here in Korea. Ed never pretends to be liberal. I disagree with Mike. It's his opinion and he's welcome to it.

[raysr]

5. Is he on Air America?

[rpannier]

12. Is who on Air America???

Ed Schultz? No. He's not.

[Terre]

23. Yes he is

At least on my station in OR (620KPOJ) and I know he's not local like Thom Hartmann.

[Garbo 2004]

31. Schultz is syndicated & definitely not associated with AAR, although

many AAR affiliates carry his show. That causes a lot of confusion.

[Terre]

63. Really?

I didn't know that.  Live and learn. Thanks Garbo

[rpannier]

59. He's picked up by your station

But he's not officially part of AAR

[wixomblues]

69. I get Ed on AAR in Michigan. he comes on at three.

[in_cog_ni_to]

72. NOPE. He just INTRUDES on the AAR lineup. He IS NOT with AAR.

[wixomblues]

82. Something should be done!!!!

Yeah, we used to get Randi during that time....it's a weird deal. I live in the broadcast area, and I used to get the normal AAR deal(very weak range). Now, I don't think they broadcast at night anymore, and Randi is either on at six, or not on at all. But I don't think we get the majority report or any of that jazz.

Of course, I now have Sirius, which rocks, and they have a left channel, and three right wing ones. Those are alright, I guess. It's weird they would bump Randi, she seemed alright. And I know I can listen online...but I prefer music to talk at home...so....

[in_cog_ni_to]

88. I know. I live in Illinois, just south of Chicago

and can't even get that station in my car the reception is so weak. My husband can get it during the day in his car, but at night, it's gone. I "think" the station owner chooses what to air and that's why Schultz is on? Not sure though. Randi Rhodes ROCKS and Mike Malloy is one of THE BEST radio personalities I've ever heard. Maybe trade your Sirius in for XM? That's what I did. I couldn't live without my LIBERAL AAR.

[wixomblues]

91. Why not both?

AAR was on Sirius for a while. Plus, SIRIUS has Stern. and Schultz. Who no one likes. Oh well. Rachel Maddow(sic?) and Randi are my two favorite AAR peeps, and I could do without the rest of the programming. If I wanted to hear amaturer liberals bitching about the government, I can hang out with my friends. And I do. Randi and maddow manage to entertain me, and seem to know their way around a microphone. The rest(except Malloy, who I find too extreme and angry) just stumble over their own words, or are boring. Or both. But that's subjective, at best.

[in_cog_ni_to]

92. Malloy is angry for good reasons. He SHOULD be angry.

I'm just praying he doesn't have a damn heart attack! Both XM and Sirius works too. I stopped listening to my Sirius after AAR left. I'm not crazy about Springer, Franken is great when he doesn't have his RW Rush Limpballs supporter on, Majority Report is GREAT, Sam Seder ROCKS...knows his stuff too, Randi is just the QUEEN of radio and then Malloy.... He speaks for me. I'm ANGRY too.

[wixomblues]

98. You seem so pleasant....

You don't strike me as the angry type. Not that there is anything wrong with that. Malloy is also pretty funny when he wants to be....

Besides, getting angry with Bush always seemed like a waste of time. It's sort oflike getting mad at a handicapped kid for peeing on your shoe. I save most of my anger for the people that voted for him, and worse, those that didn't vote at all.

[in_cog_ni_to]

99. I seem pleasant? You should talk to my husband and son after one of my

rants. LOL....which is damn near every day because everything these people do pisses me off! They've come to just roll their eyes at me now..."There she goes again." "What did Bush do today?"

I can be pleasant until this regime does something to set me off.

[LincolnMcGrath]

11. Hate to disagree

Ed Quote from today; "I am the leading liberal on the airwaves."

[tatertop]

27. Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh! I think Ed is part phoney and part baloney!

[Cha]

67. Thanks, Lincoln!

Like I said upstream.."Phoney is as phoney barks over the radio"!

[rpannier]

104. I've never heard him claim to be a leading liberal

He says "The Leading Progressive Voice."
But I may have missed that comment since I don't listen every day.

[RagingInMiami]

14. Did you hear Schultz go off on Murtha today for speaking his mind?

I don't care if he is a liberal or a progressive or a democrat or a "lefty", as he likes to call it. And I don't mind when these radio hosts rag on the dems because they surely deserve it.

But I do mind when they rag on a dem who has proven to be the only one with balls on this matter. And his only reason is because the bush administration will use his words against him.

And it's not like Schultz just stated his opinion and moved on. No, he dedicated his whole show to it. That is just what Rush Limbaugh would do, overhype a simple statement in the hopes that the media will run with it.

And it's not like there is nothing else going on in the world of politics. There is that guy Abramoff who is threatening to expose a multitude of republican politicians for corruption.

[rpannier]

61. Actually

No I didn't. As I said, "I Stream his show from Korea." Some days I listen some days I don't. It's difficult to catch a lot of shows I like.

[Rainscents]

25. What the hell were you listening to today?

So, it's ok for Ed to twist Murtha's words and trash him? Ed LIED to his listeners today on what Murtha said and this is NOT acceptable!

[rpannier]

62. As I said

I stream his show from Korea. Some days I listen. Some days I don't. Korea is 13-17 hours ahead of mainland US.
When I can, I listen to Randi, Ed, Lionel and/or Al.

[me b zola]

101. Ed said on his show yesterday that he is a liberal

and he took offense by those who suggest that he is not. I am not familiar with his web page (yesterday was the only time that I have been there--I had to give him a piece of my mind) to know if he has an archives or not. He was quite clear though, in identifying himself as a liberal.

[buddysmellgood]

4. Phony what?

[BuyingThyme]

10. He doesn't really give a crap.

He's strictly an entertainer trying to make a buck. He's never read a newspaper and wouldn't know a blog if he saw one.

But, all said, he's okay.

[buddysmellgood]

19. That's a very strong case. You should go on O'Reilly.

[BuyingThyme]

22. It's just the truth. But you, like O'Reilly, have a problem with

the truth. Right?

[buddysmellgood]

29. Nah ahhhh. OReilly is the one to spew accusation without backing it up.

Back at ya.

[BuyingThyme]

30. So, you're under the impression that Ed Schultz reads newspapers?

You've apparently never listened to his show.

He starts off just about every show with RNC talking points. The last time I listened, he started off with the talking point, identified it as nothing more than a diversion, and then spent the rest of the show talking about it.

[buddysmellgood]

34. I listened to him take a freeper apart over the secret spying program.

Then he spent the show talking about FISA and explaining the issue. The Murtha line is dissappointing, but most of the time, he's very reasoned.

[RagingInMiami]

36. I remember that show

That was good.

But at twice so far he's dedicated his shows to bashing dems for speaking their minds.

If you're going to bash them, bash them for not speaking their minds.

[buddysmellgood]

38. That's a good point.

[LittleClarkie]

47. Except for his own blog, of course. Other than that I'm sure you're right.

And never mind he supported Cindy, and gives several of our Dem leaders a forum on which to speak. It was all a clever ruse.

But other than that, he's okay.

(/sarcasm)

I wish we could disagree with someone without feeling the need to denegrate them.

[BuyingThyme]

52. Where did I say I disagreed with him?

How could he sell the show without guests?

Blog? Not hardly.

I wish we could disagree with someone without feeling the need to make things up.

[LittleClarkie]

53. Sorry, I thought you were being sarcastic, or kidding.

I thought you actually meant the opposite of what you said. I thought I was playing along with your cleverness. No?

What do you mean, blog, not hardly?

Register on his message board. He blogs. Hence, saying he has never seen a blog in his life is rather ludicrous. Hence I thought you were kidding. And so I played along. Didn't think I was disagreeing. Didn't think I was making things up, unless it was that I made up the notion that you might have a sense of humor.

All cleverness aside, do you or do you not think he is a phony? Others earlier in the evening said that they thought he was valueless. In my own kidding way, I was refuting that. He's supported Cindy with his show, and given several Dems a forum that I've yet to hear on other shows. I think it's a shame that both Randi and Mike Malloy don't seem to like him. They are all valuable. I'd rather they didn't get into a war with each other.

Esp. since Ed Schultz is ahead of AAR in the number of stations he's on. Makes me wonder if the DJ's on AAR are getting a touch jealous.

[rucky]

54. more like a hack than a phony

I think his views are truly left-leaning, but he doesn't do his homework and concedes ridiculous points from RW callers because of it.

[RagingInMiami]

16. A phony democrat

[buddysmellgood]

21. What did I miss?

[RagingInMiami]

24. It's all here

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

[insane_cratic_gal]

6. what's this about Air American being bought

by fanatical Christians?

[Davis_X_Machina]

13. AAR's...

...Phoeniz AZ outlet bought by fanatical Christians.

[wisteria]

8. Why, because he doesn't always agree with him.

All of this backstabbing is not good for our party or for our causes and just makes us look ridiculous. Does Limbaugh back stab Hannity?

[RagingInMiami]

20. Does Limbaugh dedicate a whole show to bashing a republican

politician?

I doubt it. Schultz dedicated his whole show to bashing Murtha. A few weeks ago, he dedicated his whole show to bash Dean.

[AspenRose]

94. Sounds like a typical democrat to me.

How many times here on DU have I seen "don't tell me who to support/who to vote for", etc.

And I've heard Randi talk about trying to get democrats agreeing - like herding cats....we're all so independent-minded and born leaders, we refuse to fall in line behind someone (until it's time to). Republicans, on the other hand, are sheep and will do what they're told, will follow who they're told to follow.

If Schultz is criticizing another dem, it's nothing short of what we've seen here....just sayin'. (I'm not spoiling for a fight!)

[jobycom]

9. My local AAR station plays Ed live, and tapes Randi. Pisses me off.

I haven't listened to Schultz enough to know if he's a phony, but I've never warmed to him.

[Rainscents]

15. Ed is right wing hack!!! Ed was way out of line today and he lost

listener here today!

[Spock_is_Skeptical]

17. Darn tootin' - Mike is right

[flaminbats]

18. we're best at cutting our own throats..

Ed cuts Murtha's throat, then Mike cuts Ed's throat....no wonder liberals never win!!!!

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[Rainscents]

28. AMEN!

[Garbo 2004]

32. One certainly can't accuse Malloy of mincing words. n/t

[leftofthedial]

33. he's just trying the talk show "entertainer" schtick

and got to the RW show too late.

[Kurt Remarque]

35. limbaugh's poor cousin tryin to make a buck by turnin liberal

[Dongfang Hong]

37. A phony? Come on, Holden. That's ridiculous.

Ed is a left-leaning centrist. He pretends to be nothing else. But this is really juvenile. Do you ever hear Mike Savage bashing Sean Hannity because Hannity isn't quite as conservative as Savage is? No. Of course not. If one right-wing host prospers, they all do. If someone listens to Rush and really likes hearing that kind of talk, he'll start thinking about listening to other commentators who say the same general kind of thing.

Now, if Malloy bashes Schultz, he turns Schultz fans away from his show, turns Malloy fans away from Schultz's show, and casual listeners just turn the whole thing off in disgust. There isn't the synergy, there isn't the halo effect. Rather than getting a daily dose of Liberal and solidifying our anger towards conservatives, Malloy turns us against our own kind.

Just because someone's rightwards of us doesn't mean they're right-wing. And if they're being a centrist to a liberal audience, they're neither being a hack nor are they "selling out." Rather, they're speaking their mind.

[LincolnMcGrath]

39. You honestly think the righties don't keep their own in line?

[Dongfang Hong]

41. Of course the righties keep their own in line. Reread my post.

Do you ever hear Mike Savage bashing Sean Hannity because Hannity isn't quite as conservative as Savage is? No.

[LincolnMcGrath]

42. No need to reread it.

Savage has attacked Righties.

Kristol has been attacked by the right.

Coulter has been attacked by the right.

Hannity has been attacked by the right.

[Dongfang Hong]

43. Yes, but in an entirely different way.

They attack in a publicity-stunt manner. Savage attacks them for not being conservative enough, but then backs them in the next show. Kristol takes jabs because of his immense power, but again, at the end of the day they're all friends. Hannity takes a few jabs because he tries to look moderate every once in a while, but they still support him. It's never lasting with them; it's only to look as if there's debate on the right when nothing important is happening. Whenever anything important happens they all come out together and lock ranks.

Now, we have all this Abramoff and NSA business, and we really have a chance to throw the Republicans on the defensive. Were this Rightland, we'd all have stopped our stunt-feuds and gone on the attack. But no, no, we have to attack each other and let the Republicans decide the way this situation is going to be talked about. All we do is just trot Pelosi out in front of CSPAN cameras to recite "Culture of Corruption."

[buddysmellgood]

40. Welcome to DU.

[ISUGRADIA]

44. Me thinks Malloy is a bit jealous at having a shitty time slot

10 PM to 1 AM compared to Shultz.

[Horse with no Name]

46. methinks you aren't aware

THAT time slot is Malloy's favored time.
It allows him to spend time with his family.

[LittleClarkie]

55. Me also thinks Malloy and Randi are jealous of the number of stations

Ed Schultz is heard on compared to AAR.

In addition, me thinks that they all need to remember they are all on the same damn side.

[RagingInMiami]

56. Methinks that Randi and Malloy have ten times the talent than Schultz has

In addition, methinks that Schultz needs to remember whose side he is on.

[LittleClarkie]

57. Methinks I might agree regarding Randi

But that Mr. Malloy can often kiss my grits. Schultz may need to remember what side he's on sometimes, but then so does Malloy. Ed will creep too far to the Right, and Mike will creep too far to the left, and we don't need either or both having at people. Ed needs to chill on Murtha, and Dean. Malloy could chill on Kerry.

Perhaps Mr. Malloy and Ms. Rhodes need to look into migrating over to the Jones Network. If they were sold as individual shows instead of as a package on AAR, they might also have as many stations as Mr. Schultz.

And Big Eddie I do believe is a Hillary fan, which might explain why several folks here say he gets on their last nerve.

[RagingInMiami]

60. Methinks he is a Hillary fan

Because his wife, Wendy, is a Hillary fan. And it guarantees good sex.

[Beelzebud]

86. I'd rather have a "far lefty" like Malloy than a "right leaning" Shultz.

Any day of the week.

Malloy criticizes certain dems for not being left enough.

Shultz criticizes certain dems for not being right enough.

I'm a liberal, so I prefer Malloy.

Ed can sing the praises of Chuck Hagle, and slam Dean everyday for all I care. It just makes me ill that "progressives" actually want to listen to that garbage.

[Cha]

71. Me thinks you don't know

how Malloy calls it like he sees it.

[Beelzebud]

81. I'd rather listen to Malloy at 3 Am then Ed at 3 Pm.

[Horse with no Name]

45. I've tried to listen to Ed

He just reminds me too much of Rush. Can't do it.

[Cha]

73. Same here..he happened to

be going off on Dean at that particular minute in time..something about not raising enough money for the Dems..in that barking limpbaugh voice of his.

And I know how limpbaugh sounds cause a few years ago I was turning on a radio and it was on a oxyrush station and he was going off on Clinton..and I got that sucker dial turned so fast.

[AspenRose]

96. He has his place.

I understand: I don't care much for Schultz either for that reason, but I would try to get my republican husband to listen to him (as well as any traditional old-school Republicans; I think he has the best shot at converting them). He would DEFINITELY not listen to Malloy, who I like and try to catch as often as I can. And he wouldn't listen to Randi, either. My liberal neighbors across the street can't stand either Malloy OR Rhodes; they like Thom Hartmann (they're in their 70s and can't handle the 'crudeness'). So they all serve a purpose...

[Yollam]

48. Agree with Malloy.

Randi used to tell how they met at a broadcaster's convention, and they were both vying for the same job, and he treated her unbelievably rudely. I'll believe Randi over a guy who conveniently converted from a hard right-winger to a right-leaning democrat just 2 or 3 years ago.

He may be sincere in his opinions ( I doubt it), but the right-wing thought process is still there. I do not listen to his program if I can help it. His issues and values don't really resonate with me very much at all.

[radio4progressives]

49. I missed it ... but i can just hear him say, and he's sooo spot on..

ed schultz is a rush lintball wannabe sound machine for the dlc.. and his voice is unlistenable.

[hfojvt]

50. "telling it like it is" ???

I hope he went beyond name-calling to some substantive criticism.

"But honesty, Dr. Margolin explained, was not necessarily communication. 'To engage a man you don't like in conversation to find out if your dislike of him is justified is communication. Telling him he's an SOB is not.'" The People Next Door J.P. Miller p. 83

[Pushed To The Left]

51. Malloy's got it wrong this time!

Some of the most passionate progressives are ex-conservatives! I listen to Ed Schultz every day during my lunch break, and I think he's the real deal. Just because he is not quite as liberal as some other hosts does not make him phony.

[Richard Steele]

58. MALLOY is RIPPING ME OFF!!!!!

He stole that line from MY post today at 4:43 EST:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

LOL, I'm just being silly, of course.
EVERY sane human who listens to Ed finds
their own, independent path to the same truth.

And that TRUTH is: he's a phony.
None of us need to be TOLD that
anymore than we need to be told that grass is green.

People who SEE grass describe it as 'green';
people who HEAR Ed describe him as 'phony'.

[Walt Starr]

64. After yesterday, I'm done with Schultz. n/t

[lonestarnot]

102. You used to defend him didn't you Walt or am I mistaken?

[benburch]

65. Randi has been saying that too.

nt

[Cha]

66. Well, I know I like Mike Malloy and

I know I don't like ed the spinmeister schultz so this is just confirmation from someone I admire.

Phony is as phony barks over the radio.

[wixomblues]

68. Malloy is off his meds again.

Ed kills him in the ratings, and represents the portion of this country that is fed up with the right, but not consumed with hate. malloy is poison in a box. I know many people love him, and I respect him, I just can't stand listening to him.

[Cha]

74. And I can't stand listening

to that phoney ed schultz.

[Cults4Bush]

76. Thats ok thats how I feel about Ed.

Mr "its the voting machines, stupid!" barely breathed a word about them after the election and harangued those of us who did.

Ed is poison to Liberal causes, and just because he swears he's a D doesn't make him a Liberal.

Thats just me though and I could live within the same party with him at that. What he did yesterday was beyond the pale, it was slitting the throats and stabbing the backs of all those in the party opposed to the war and this administration, to say otherwise is to have rose colored retinas.

Murtha was our best and most prominent voice to get the hell out of Iraq, Ed just tried to destroy that voice. If you agree that was a good thing than you are backing the wrong people.

[wixomblues]

80. I didn't hear him yesterday, and I won't blindly defend him.

Murtha didn't do anything other then voice his opinion. He can defend it or walk away from it, and people can talk about it all they want. I can respect someone for being irritated at him for saying this, as it is discouraging to the troops, but I've never felt people's feelings should take precedent over the truth.

[MH1]

78. Agree.

I've listened to them both occasionally, not enough to say for sure, but of the two I'd be more likely to listen to Ed again. I heard Malloy ranting and I heard Schultz speaking sanely. I think Schultz will appeal to more of the "average" folks that we need to appeal to. Plus, from what I've heard, he generally supports Democrats. He may criticize a statement from time to time, but he doesn't go around calling the folks on our side "spineless" and "weasels". That alone puts him way ahead of some of the so-called progressive (who are really radical) radio show hosts.

[undeterred]

93. Malloy is like a lullabye to me

Ed Schultz is an emetic.

[in_cog_ni_to]

70. Malloy speaks the truth.

and I LOVE him for it.

[insane_cratic_gal]

75. Ed is Like Savage

Savage uses that as his sink line.. "I use to be a liberal." All little good freepers use that bit of info as a wussy weapon when arguing.

Ed stripes are the same, he annihilates anyone who has a strong voice.

[no_more_rhyming]

90. Yep and people don't tune in

to hear every one agree with the host. The whole schtick is about playing devils advocate to every point. Welcome to talk radio. Good news, the wind will be blowing the other way tomorrow.

[Strawman]

77. Not a fan

Sometimes I agree with him, sometimes I don't. Don't agree with him here. Don't enjoy his show, and I rarely listen unless I'm flipping through stations and hear something that temporarily catches my interest.

In general, I don't find "talk radio" very worthwhile or informative. Why do I want to tune into someone bitching in an annoying tone of voice about the same things I already know about? Maybe if I didn't have the internet and didn't want to feel alone in my point of view or something, I'd be more inclined to tune in. I wonder why we think we need talk radio so badly. Because the right wingers did it 10 years ago and now we have to do it too? Pfft. It just raises my blood pressure and makes my stress level even higher on the ride home from work. If talk radio can reach undecideds with the liberal message, that's great, but it's not for me. I can enjoy a show like Laura Flanders on the weekend that is informative, but Ed Schultz and even more liberal hosts like Randi or Malloy, forget it. Not my cup of tea except on rare occasions when I'm in the mood for it. But that's all it is: another form of mood music, like listening to metal when you're pissed off or something.

[otohara]

79. Won't Be Listening Again

after yesterday

[Cooley Hurd]

83. Tough call - Ed's on AF Radio and perhaps his tirade against Murtha

...has some thing to do with that audience. However, Ed clearly misunderstood Murtha's statement.

[Beelzebud]

84. Thats a pretty lame excuse.

I like how ppl can accept the fact that soldiers can handle war. But they seem to think soldiers can't handle what a TV or radio personality says... I don't think our troops are that damn fragile.

[Greyhound]

85. Sad to say, but Ed S. is pretty representative of Democrats throughout

the nation. Pretty much a re with a conscious.

[leeroysphitz]

87. Liberal or phoney or whtever, Schultz's show is a SNOOZER...

And if I wanted to hear backwoods mouthbreathers call in and give thier uninformed opinions
I'd listen to limp-balls.

[Javaman]

89. They get rid of Marin, then replace Randi with hack schultz...

I'm finding myself listening to books on MP3 now more than the radio at drive time.

AAR in Austin is lame. I only listen to Mike Malloy now.

[Rosco T.]

100. what the smeg are you talking about???

AAR didn't dump Randi... maybe something your local station did, but not AAR..

[Javaman]

105. I said AAR Austin is lame. They cut Randi's show in half...

I have to stomach schultz for the other half. No thanks.

Books on mp3 for me.

[Nutmegger]

95. I never listened to him before

but I did hear him trash talking Murtha. That alone infuriates me.

[reprehensor]

97. Yes, yes he is.

Mike rules.

[DesertRat]

103. Ed's show recently started on Armed Forces Radio

Could that have anything to do with his stance on this issue?