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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 11:35 AM
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Cheney won: No NSA probe, Abu Ghraib photos ignored, Patriot Act furthered
And all the media could focus on this week was Cheney snubbing the press. I'm at a loss. HELP.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 11:37 AM
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1. Yeah, that hunting trip was one hell of a media success!
Couldn't have worked out better if it happened by accident!
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 11:38 AM
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2. the Corporate MSM Will Never Do What's Right
Only what's in their economic/political interests. Welcome to the Fascist Amerikkka.
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Democrats_win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 11:38 AM
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3. It's a shame. People are noticing that the press sits on their cans doing
nothing. They should be out there investigating these people instead of acting as stenographers.
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OnceUponTimeOnTheNet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 11:39 AM
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4. Don't forget ~ Port sale to UAE~
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 11:41 AM
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5. that is not quite in the bag yet.
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OnceUponTimeOnTheNet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 11:42 AM
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6. Oh, Dobbs was all over that last night
Enron trial, is that going on?
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 11:43 AM
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9. Ah, yes. that is coming soon. Jeebus
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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 11:42 AM
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7. and Gonzalez isn't getting off Abramoff "investigation",and Greenland's
melting really fast.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 12:44 PM
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23. Nor will Gonzales turn over Cheney Office emails to Fitzgerald
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/021506J.shtml
<snip>

Gonzales Withholding Plame Emails
By Jason Leopold
t r u t h o u t | Report

Wednesday 15 February 2006

Sources close to the investigation into the leak of covert CIA agent Valerie Plame Wilson have revealed this week that Attorney General Alberto Gonzales has not turned over emails to the special prosecutor's office that may incriminate Vice President Dick Cheney, his aides, and other White House officials who allegedly played an active role in unmasking Plame Wilson's identity to reporters.

Moreover, these sources said that, in early 2004, Cheney was interviewed by federal prosecutors investigating the Plame Wilson leak and testified that neither he nor any of his senior aides were involved in unmasking her undercover CIA status to reporters and that no one in the vice president's office had attempted to discredit her husband, a vocal critic of the administration's pre-war Iraq intelligence. Cheney did not testify under oath or under penalty of perjury when he was interviewed by federal prosecutors.

The emails Gonzales is said to be withholding contained references to Valerie Plame Wilson's identity and CIA status and developments related to the inability to find weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. Moreover, according to sources, the emails contained suggestions by the officials on how the White House should respond to what it believed were increasingly destructive comments Joseph Wilson had been making about the administration's pre-war Iraq intelligence.
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 11:43 AM
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8. don't forget Britney Spears had her kid on her lap while driving!!!
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OnceUponTimeOnTheNet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 11:47 AM
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13. LOL
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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 11:46 AM
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10. 2006 is one important election. Not that it will matter, but I'm going
to register in Maine to vote against Snowe.
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Justice Is Comin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 11:47 AM
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11. The photos weren't ignored
by the Muslims all around the world. That is going to have reverberations in the news for weeks to come. They will solely be responsible for the uptick in violence, watch. And the cartoon as well.

The photos are still working their way through the credibility pipeline here yet.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 11:48 AM
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14. You would think the cartoon would pale next to actual photos????
Edited on Fri Feb-17-06 11:48 AM by spanone
maybe so?
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OnceUponTimeOnTheNet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 11:51 AM
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15. took em 4 months to work up the cartoon rage eom
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Jon8503 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 11:47 AM
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12. I agree, the Media is a huge, huge issue. However, there have been
Edited on Fri Feb-17-06 11:50 AM by Jon8503
parties out of power in the past that have had a difficult time getting anything changed for the good but they have successes. I fail to see where the dems have any good leadership or direction to have any successes.

You look at the poll numbers where the republicans are falling including the President. The gains are not what the democrats are doing but the failures and corruption of the republicans. The last one CNN showed was that the people do not think much of either party. As the democrats said in their SOTU address, "There is a better way", I just wish they would find it.

I am just tired of one thing after another and all you get is "we tried, we did our best" nothing we can do. I realize there will be few wins but give me a break we should be able to have a few more than what we are getting.

Then again, you get a fighter like Paul Hackett but he is not a party man so you have to get rid of him. Maybe some fresh blood like him would help for us to get some good leadership and some wins.

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Desertrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 11:53 AM
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16. Well done "trained media". Well done!
or is that "gov't owned media"?

Either way..we are so screwed.

We treat them as incompetent fools while they are really as cunning as foxes running the hen house.

Cheny et al won and the people lost...again.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 12:00 PM
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17. Looks like Whittington took one for the cause
a true patriot.
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dusmcj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 12:08 PM
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18. fuck the press and ignore the people (just like the Greedy Old Pigs do)
take it to the halls of power, let those Legislators who have demonstrated that they are not part of the lackey mind know they have your support for continued action, and urge those who have not to do so or face defeat at the polls.

This is not a f*ing tea party, and we will get nowhere if we waste time looking for good fellowship in a fun group. Political action is not a social activity, although that may be a side effect (many children born between 1965 and 1975 are supposedly an example thereof :smoke: ). If there's nothing moving near you, or moving in the wrong direction, make something move in the right direction _yourself_. Discuss, convince, argue, communicate, organize. This is about critical mass, ours needs to be bigger than theirs. The tide is turning in our favor, let's capitalize on the opportunity.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 12:14 PM
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19. No need to preach to the choir.
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dusmcj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 04:58 PM
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26. quite so... and yet
when one sees posts that essentially say "why can't they be nicer", subversive thoughts arise about 'liberals' confirming stereotypes of themselves as weak-kneed whiners. It's never good when a demographic grouping confirms stereotypes of itself held by those who consider themselves its opponents. If we haven't learned by now that those who oppose us are waging unrestricted cultural war on normalcy, and respond appropriately, we have a problem. The proponents of being Under Control of the old world ordure demonstrate daily that given their current position there is no room for dialog with them.
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montana500 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 12:16 PM
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20. they would of ignored those stories anyway.
At least we got one story in the headlights.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 12:29 PM
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21. but sadly, it was a non-story. press has always known cheney was secretive
that's really all it was about. It didn't take that one step further to the conclusion that this might even be how he deals with ALL matters...of state etc.
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dancingme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 12:33 PM
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22. Cheney's next plan - defeat Hillary
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 01:01 PM
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24. LOL
:woohoo:
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submerged99 Donating Member (299 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 01:05 PM
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25. MSM wouldnt' have focused on those issues anyway.
I'm sure this has been said on related threads but the "Cheney Hunting Scandal" is the best we could've hoped for from the MSM.

They've never covered any of the other Cheney scandals with this fervor and there is no reason to believe they would have changed course and done it with any of these other issues.

In fact, the Libby revelations came out prior to the Cheney shooting and it was ignored by the MSM.

I understand the frustration but the MSM will only rise up when they feel they have been snubbed and it's up to us to capitalize on it when it happens, such as with Cheney.
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