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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 07:32 PM
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Hardball (question)
Did anyone see Chris Matthews ask Jor Biden when the seante is going to hold VP Cheney responsible? It was in the context of their discussion on Iraq and Plame.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 07:34 PM
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1. When the Democrats take back control, I would guess. Certainly
Edited on Thu Feb-16-06 07:34 PM by Pirate Smile
not while men like Pat Roberts are running the Senate.

What did Biden say?
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 07:36 PM
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3. Biden says that he
tries to. He spoke about his belief that both Rumsfeld and Cheney should resign.
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blue cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 07:34 PM
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2. What did Biden say?
My guess would be no.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 07:37 PM
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4. yes I heard it
And I do not believe I heard an answer from Joe. :shrug:
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 07:39 PM
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6. I hoped for
a follow-up from Matthews, but time ran out. I do think it is telling that CNN has a segment about republicans who want Cheney to "step down," and Matthews coming very close to saying what he is hinting at -- that Cheney should be impeached.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 07:37 PM
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5. Yes. "When are you and the Senate going to hold this man to account...
...for what he says?"
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 07:39 PM
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7. And he didn't answer the question, really.
He said that he's held Cheney to account but Tweety was asking when the Senate will do so officially--as in prosecuting Cheney for his lies.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 07:41 PM
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8. I agree.
Biden gave a non-answer. The look on Matthews' face made clear he recognized it as a non-answer.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 07:47 PM
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9. It sounds like it could have been a good time to make a point about
giving the Democrats control of the Senate.

If the Country would like the Congress to resume its Constitutional duties then they need to vote for Democrats in November. That is really the only solution.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 07:50 PM
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10. Yep. A missed opportunity of the first order.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 07:54 PM
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12. Matthews isn't done.
I admit that I am not entirely objective about his show. At the same time, I realize that Chris earns a good bit of the distain DUers feel for some of his reporting. But, on the topic of Cheney and the Plame scandal, he is simply the best in the corporate media on tv. He isn'y letting go of this. And neither is David Schuster.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 09:04 PM
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17. I agree. On Plame and much about the Iraq War he does a pretty
good job.

Other issues, like Abramoff, he just doesn't "get".
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 09:31 PM
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19. I Love David Schuster's Reports
He doesn't miss a beat. And while CM gets on my nerves alot and there are days when I'd like to kick him in the head, he is great on Plame and Cheney. He's practically screaming for someone to say the guy is a big, fat, lying drunken, criminal.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 07:52 PM
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11. Repubs refuse to perform Constitutional duties.
Their loyalties are to the party, not to America.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 07:55 PM
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13. That is so true.
The Constitution is very clear on what they are supposed to do in these cases. Both the House and Senate are failing to do their duty.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 08:07 PM
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14. The more things change, the more they remain the same.
Samuel Adams, from an article published in 1771:

The liberties of our country, the freedom of our civil constitution, are worth defending at all hazards; and it is our duty to defend them against all attacks. We have received them as a fair inheritance from our worthy ancestors; they purchased them for us with toil and danger and expense of treasure and blood. It will bring an everlasting mark of infamy on the present generation, enlightened as it is, if we should suffer them to be wrested from us by violence without a struggle, or be cheated out of them by the artifices of false and designing men.

Who, pray tell, in our country's history has ever exhibited more artifices than the current administration in power?
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 09:08 PM
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18. I love these quotes from the old school thank you n/t
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liveoaktx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 08:07 PM
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15. He referred back to a year and a half ago-not anything recent
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liveoaktx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 08:19 PM
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16. SHORT VIDEO of that
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