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Hardrada Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-03-06 07:30 PM
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Jane Fonda
Has anyone else received an email recently about Jane Fonda being a traitor and that she shouldn't be honored as one of the
"100 Women of the Century." because of it? What are your thoughts?
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Tace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-03-06 07:32 PM
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1. She Was Hot As Barbarella!
I don't consider her to have been a traitor.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-03-06 07:41 PM
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6. Not bad at 67, either.................
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-03-06 07:33 PM
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2. Jane Fonda is an American Heroine.
She's been demonized by rightwing extremists and fanatics because she exposed the atrocoties happening in Vietnam.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-03-06 07:33 PM
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3. Some people have never stopped fighting the Viet Nam war
Those people would say that I am a traitor too, because I've been anti-war since that time. Jane Fonda has talked about her involvement with the Viet Cong, and has said that she was thoughtless when she allowed them to take a photo of her sitting at an anti-aircraft gun. This was the worst thing she did, as I recall, but the rw painted her as doing a lot worse than this.
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tn-guy Donating Member (224 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-03-06 09:34 PM
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12. touched a raw nerve
I'm sorry. Perhaps it's because I knew people who were flying over N. Vietnam at the time or maybe because I was headed that way but I cannot pass off the AA photo as simply a thoughtless mistake.

First, we were at war with N. Vietnam at the time. Maybe we shouldn't have been, but the fact is that we were. Second, she chose to travel to a country with which we were actively engaged in hostilities. When one does that it should not be on a whim but only after careful consideration. Third, she allowed, if not outright cooperated, her visit to be used for publicity purposes to benefit the N. Vietnamese side. Last, to go anywhere a AA emplacement, knowing that POWs were being held, and mistreated, who were shot down, let alone climbing up and posing for photos was an egregious act that served no purpose other than to advance the cause of those who were holding those POWs.

Anyone with more than a dozen functioning brain cells could have been able to figure that out. In my book, Ms. Fonda is either the world's most empty-headed bimbo or a vile traitor. You don't have to support the war to feel sympathy for POWs. She showed a callous disregard for their welfare.
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-03-06 07:34 PM
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4. I think she displayed a lot of courage, brash & ill thought, grantedly.
She admits that the gun photo was a screw up. Like her or not it is hard to ignore what she accomplished in her profession.
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-03-06 07:34 PM
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5. Jane Fonda is a freak
who did more to harm women's body self concepts than anyone of her time. FEEL THE BURN!

But I respect that she admits this now.

The Hanoi Jane stuff? I dunno...I can be talked into both views. She thought she was doing the right thing, I guess.
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-03-06 07:42 PM
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7. Isn't funny when you starred in Barberella and that didnt hurt your career
*Shrug* Personally Fonda doesnt register one way or the other with me. I wont bash a woman for her actions that i may or may not agree with especially since i wasnt around at the time.
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benddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-03-06 08:03 PM
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8. check out
http://www.snopes.com God that thing has been rolling around the internet for about 12 years. I would have thought it would have died on its own. It's a piece of junk. Tell the sender to go to snopes.
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Hardrada Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-03-06 09:16 PM
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10. Thanks.
A useful link!
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-03-06 08:04 PM
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9. Fonda stood up for what she believed in
I don't see anything wrong with that.
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OnionPatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-03-06 09:26 PM
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11. I always liked her
and she did apologize for sitting on that tank. But her basic opposition to the Vietnam war was something I did and still do agree with. I think it takes courage to make a stand for what you believe, even if you're a young, dumb teenager (or close to it.)
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-03-06 09:37 PM
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13. Tom Hayden, one of her ex-husband's was my
Congressman for a long time. It was Jane's money making movies and promoting her physical fitness philosophy that funded Tom's career. They also lived in a working class neighborhood in Santa Monica that was below Wilshire.

If you lived in Santa Monica then, the country club set and upper middle class lived above Wilshire and even more hoity, toity above Montana Avenue. The ordinary people lived below Wilshire. Jane and Tom's house was a modest home way below Wilshire.

Yet, she had the money to live in the areas the gitterati lived in, but didn't. I like her very much for being really genuine in her politics.
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